2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[Dalek]

I am a bit cheesed that the Heat got Javonte Smart. I really liked that kid on LSU. Heat also recently signed Haywood Highsmith. They are at least testing out some options. The Heat always get these bargain guys.

They have Max Strus hitting 40% from three and Omer Yurtseven getting double-doubles. Why can't we develop guys faster? Are we taking on too many weird projects? I will say that Miami focuses on guys who can shoot and then teaches them defense. I don't know why we focus just on defense so much.

Our player development used to work for a lot players, but since Chris Boucher, we haven't developed anything decent.

[John Murdoch]

Davis is clearly the best player involved in this deal when healthy;
But his inability to remain healthy likely gives the Raps pause, bigs having issues staying healthy in their late 20s rarely ends well for those teams holdings those contracts as they move closer to 30.

Even if I didn't consider this bad value for Toronto, the Raps simply are not in a place to make that "Kawhi" deal to try and get over the hump and even if they were I am not sure how comfortable I am with Barnes and Siakam having to hold the fort down for the dozens of games Davis will be out over the course of the season.

Maybe try the Celts?

Ok thx for the feedback. AD also is tight with Drake as a sidenote

[DangerZone13]

With the 31st pick in the 2022 NBA Draft, The Toe-ront-O Rap-tors select Zach Edey from Purdue University.

I dunno, maybe Nurse liked him? Paying 2nd round min for a monster matchup, 20 years old, 7'4" 290lbs, 7'7" wingspan, can move well for his size, is a reported hard worker, team-oriented, and has good hands according to Coach Nurse. Grew up playing hockey and baseball, so he's only got 4-5 years of ball under him with a lot of room for growth. Seems like a Raptors type to me.

Bring him up for matchups where we need a big guy, and let him work out the rest of his game and conditioning with the 905. He's young enough we could do an Anti-Valanciunas with him, and condition him to operate lighter, as opposed to poor Val being mislead to work bigger.
https://bvmsports.com/2022/02/16/zach-edeys-sophomore-leap-has-purdue-expecting-big-things-come-march/

[Ell Curry]

Saw the report that before pivoting to Thad, there was a deal to send a protected first to Brooklyn for Nic Claxton. I'd definitely be into picking him up in the summer in some kinda S+T.

Lots of RFA bigman options this summer, should be able to snag one of Bamba, Bryant, Claxton, Jalen Smith, Mitchell Robinson, etc. with Ayton being the big fish other teams initially angle for. Not to say all of those options would be good fits, most of those teams have another big guy or two they're also invested in, so it might not be as hard to convince a reasonable deal. Through that scope, not making a move for a bigman at the deadline makes a bit more sense, along with giving this vision a full run to work out exactly what's needed from a future big.

The only problem with signing a young big with the MLE is that we then have a bench of for example Jalen Smith, Boucher, Thad Young, Banton, the #31 pick and Flynn and I'm not sure how we get a shooter unless Boucher or Thad is signed and traded and they can just be signed for the MLE so I'm not sure why a team would give up a shooter that Nurse would actually play for one of them. Though it's possible we could do it and look to move Birch + Boucher/Thad/Jalen Smith for a shooter, maybe with a first thrown in.

[HumbleRen]

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[kanersen]

First of all, thanks for making a realistic offer. I hate to see other fans come into our form and offer crap for our winning pieces.

Here's the thing.

Even though it's a realistic offer, it's not necessarily a good one for us - the Toronto Raptors. I'm generally a fan of getting the best player but there's 1 piece too many going to the Lakers. Having said that, no way LA gives up AD for 2 of Freddie, GTG, and OG and not all 3 given how much they paid for AD.

I can see why you would ask for all 3. The price was high for AD and anyone who said the Lakers 'stole' him at the time was full of it. You saw the chance to get a ship with Lebron, made the move and won it all. Congrats.

None of these 3 guys will ever be AD, but all of them could be All stars any given year. Above that, all of them are winners. They do stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet and i'd rather have all 3 of those guys if I want to win then AD stat stuffing he paper off the box sheets for the half to 2/3rds of the season when he's healthy.

Also, we don't have any interest in THT anymore outside of a reclamation project. Nothing against him, but the time to trade him was last year.

I like the Lakers ever since Kobe drops 81 on our assess. Not a fan of the current iteration mostly because I don't like Lebron but I don't hold that against them. Hope the Lake show recover next year.

[execoftheyear]

With the 31st pick in the 2022 NBA Draft, The Toe-ront-O Rap-tors select Zach Edey from Purdue University.

I dunno, maybe Nurse liked him? Paying 2nd round min for a monster matchup, 20 years old, 7'4" 290lbs, 7'7" wingspan, can move well for his size, is a reported hard worker, team-oriented, and has good hands according to Coach Nurse. Grew up playing hockey and baseball, so he's only got 4-5 years of ball under him with a lot of room for growth. Seems like a Raptors type to me.

Bring him up for matchups where we need a big guy, and let him work out the rest of his game and conditioning with the 905. He's young enough we could do an Anti-Valanciunas with him, and condition him to operate lighter, as opposed to poor Val being mislead to work bigger.
https://bvmsports.com/2022/02/16/zach-edeys-sophomore-leap-has-purdue-expecting-big-things-come-march/

it's crazy, my gf used to play volleyball with his parents (both giants) and he would come to some of the games. Dude was tall af as an 8th grader and I don't even think he was into basketball at the time, he just played hockey. He might've picked up basketball late. I think he's gonna be good, he has pretty good foot work for his size and is pretty coordinated.

[CANsportsguru]

That's an absolutely horrible trade for us. AD is an all world talent but is injured far too often and as he ages that's only going to get worse. I wouldn't be shocked if he's retired with in 2 or 3 years. Besides that we're trading away all our perimeter shooters. It won't work out well for us.

[Gavin_TDThree]

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This behind the scenes stuff is so darn cool

Looking at the other free agents in 2020, FVV was arguable the best PG available.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2020/#:~:text=2020%20NBA%20Free%20Agents%20%20%20%20Player,%20%20%2430%2C000%2C000%20%2030%20more%20rows%20

Looking at who had cap room:
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2019/

The Knicks would have been a real interesting fit, they could have really used a PG that's for sure

[Saul Goodman]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?



OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy



going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

[LoveMyRaps]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?



OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy



going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

I'd be on board with that for sure.

[Saul Goodman]

Who would we need the most for the MLE? obvioulsy the bench would be priority.

Malik Monk to me is such a perfect fit off the bench at the full MLE. He's only a year younger than GTJ and has a lot of room to grow. He can be the 6th starter and can slot in with any of our guys.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?



OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy



going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

No Gobert is great but he played out of the playoffs last year. He’s gotta show he can stay out there even when the opponent goes small.

[HumbleRen]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?



OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy



going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

No Gobert is great but he played out of the playoffs last year. He’s gotta show he can stay out there even when the opponent goes small.

Mainly because Utah's perimeter defence is god awful. They're the worst defensive team in the NBA whenever Gobert sits out.

[Madhouse]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?



OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy



going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

yes.

This probably is the best team in the NBA

[Spida888]

Gobert’s contract is too much for me. His FT shooting and offensive game is limited. Only bigs worth that type of contract to me might be Giannis, Embiid and Jokic.

[bballsparkin]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?

OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy


going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

yes.

This probably is the best team in the NBA

Rudy
Pascal
SB
GT
Fred

I like the trade. And agree with Madhouse. But I find myself thinking it's perfect, but how do we keep OG? Hmm,...that's the tough part of the trade. Unless Scottie improves his three.

And then I checked his contract. Reaching $46M in 2025/216. Oh wow

[oldncreaky]

Gobert’s contract is too much for me. His FT shooting and offensive game is limited. Only bigs worth that type of contract to me might be Giannis, Embiid and Jokic.

Agree -- max contracts for any player that can't stay in the closing line-up are not worth it

[Mr Swagtastic]

This is absolutely one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen. Really GTJ, VanVleet, Anunoby and a first for a guy who is often injured and might not even want to be here. Yeah no thank you

[Mr Swagtastic]

lets just imagine the likely scenario that Utah dissapoints in the playoffs. Would you want to go for Rudy Gobert?



OG
Flynn
Birch
Precious
1st

for

Rudy



going to be PRICEY but Fred/Trent/Barnes/Siakam/Gobert is an absolute monster and would be the second coming of the 04 Pistons.

Really like this one but the last few years of Goberts deal are really worrisome. VanVleet/GTJ/Barnes/Pascal/Gobert is just scary defensively. I think with VanVleet, GTJ and Pascal you got enough defense and if Barnes continues to improve he's a great 4th option. Toronto would be looking at ring chasers but I think would have no problems getting guys who are looking for a championship calibur team to sign with