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[Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG

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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#241 » by vulture » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:24 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Man... we were talking about trading him for Mitchell/Durant and now we talking about Cam Johnson. Fml lol


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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#242 » by ConSarnit » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:25 pm

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Revived wrote:People bringing up Cam Johnson injuries is crazy man when OG was drafted 3 years before Johnson and has played in less games than Johnson!! OG has even had torn ACLs while the biggest Johnson injury is just a meniscus tear.



I agree! OG has played half the season the last 2 years and missed the whole championship run while tearing his ACL before the draft. Not only will he never be an All-star, he's injury prone


Knowing his value is so much, I'd trade him for sure


You guys are missing the main issue: Cam Johnson had a meniscus trim surgery. That means bone on bone in his knee going forward. When a guy has an injury and surgery that often leads to future complications and shortened career then yes, people are going to bring it up.

Cam Johnson took the risky (possibly career shortening) surgical route because it was in his best interest to try and get back on the court this year. This might be the only really big contract he’ll ever get (he’ll be 27 in March).
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#243 » by MoneyBall » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:25 pm

Revived wrote:People bringing up Cam Johnson injuries is crazy man when OG was drafted 3 years before Johnson and has played in less games than Johnson!! OG has even had torn ACLs while the biggest Johnson injury is just a meniscus tear.

Cam has only played 5000 minutes while OG has played 10,000.

In any case, Cam's injury history does count against his overall value regardless of OG's.
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Post#244 » by nikster » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:26 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:This is going to be a 100 page thread culminating in OG not being traded.


Can only hope.

I'm kinda shocked at all the people who writing OG off as gone already. I dint think he's going anywhere unless we get a massive haul
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#245 » by niQ » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:26 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:This is going to be a 100 page thread culminating in OG not being traded.


Probably more. Might as well cue up Part 2 now.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#246 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:28 pm

Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#247 » by ImaBeatDatAzz » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:28 pm

its probably gonna end up being cam johnson, jae crowder and picks, better be atleast 2 unprotected
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#248 » by _MidNight_ » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:28 pm

The sweet sweet smell of a bidding war. I like!

Seems like OG is determined to expand his role. He's an awful iso player so selling at peak value is the absolute best move Masai and Bobby can do.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#249 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:29 pm

Wonder if they try to add in FVV with OG and get Johnson and Ayton plus picks
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Post#250 » by canz55 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:29 pm

Trading him would be a mistake. Masai isn't letting OG go for less than a king's ransom, trade request or not.

Ultimately I wouldn't be surprised if he stays. He's simply too valuable of a player.
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Post#251 » by Los_29 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:30 pm

phanman wrote:
douggood wrote:devonte graham has 2 years after this but the 2nd year only has like 2.5 mil guarantee. so basically its just a 1 year contract.

Ahh thanks for pointing that out, I guess it makes it a bit more comforting, but still a pretty underwhelming package imo. I can't see the Pelicans eager to toss many FRPs if any if with these prospects and a guy who fits OG's profile in Herb already.

Honestly i'd rather we just go embrace the tank and go:
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With both the Lakers first rounders please :lol:


Lakers don't have any picks to trade.
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Post#252 » by MoneyBall » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:30 pm

mtcan wrote:Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.

Yeah, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat if I'm Portland. Sharpe is so overrated.
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Post#253 » by JRoy » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:33 pm

mtcan wrote:Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.


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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#254 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:35 pm

JRoy wrote:
mtcan wrote:Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.


No thanks from POR.

You are obviously curious about OG as you are in this thread. Realistically...I can't see a trade with OG to Portland unless Sharpe is going out. Hart's salary makes it work.
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Post#255 » by Revived » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:37 pm

MoneyBall wrote:
Revived wrote:People bringing up Cam Johnson injuries is crazy man when OG was drafted 3 years before Johnson and has played in less games than Johnson!! OG has even had torn ACLs while the biggest Johnson injury is just a meniscus tear.

Cam has only played 5000 minutes while OG has played 10,000.

In any case, Cam's injury history does count against his overall value regardless of OG's.

OG’s matters as well since that’s the player that is being sent out.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#256 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:38 pm

mtcan wrote:
JRoy wrote:
mtcan wrote:Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.


No thanks from POR.

You are obviously curious about OG as you are in this thread. Realistically...I can't see a trade with OG to Portland unless Sharpe is going out. Hart's salary makes it work.

Raptors management don't want Sharp they made that clear since they didn't make the deal at the draft. Ben Math was the guy they wanted but he didn't fall to Portland so no deal for OG
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Post#257 » by WaltFrazier » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:39 pm

MoneyBall wrote:
mtcan wrote:Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.

Yeah, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat if I'm Portland. Sharpe is so overrated.

Sharpe showed little in two Raptors matchups. You'd think a Canadian would show out for the home folks. May end up a showy dunker but not a player
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#258 » by Revived » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:39 pm

MoneyBall wrote:
Revived wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:That injury is the only reason he was available late in the draft. It hasn't been a problem since it happened 6 years ago.

Doesn’t look like it’s a problem for Johnson either


I said 6 years ago, not 6 days.

So just like OG didn’t have an issue with his ACL after, it’s very possible that Johnson doesn’t have issue with his meniscus either and he’s shown he’s able to play just fine after it.

Johnson isn’t a player that relies on his athleticism anyway, his game isn’t about that.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#259 » by douggood » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:40 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:
mtcan wrote:Portland needs this OG trade. Flipping Josh Hart and Shaedon Sharpe for OG gives them the wing they need and insurance should Jerami Grant extension talks break down.

Lillard
Simons
OG
Grant
Nurkic

Is a playoff ready line-up.

Yeah, I'd do that trade in a heartbeat if I'm Portland. Sharpe is so overrated.

Sharpe showed little in two Raptors matchups. You'd think a Canadian would show out for the home folks. May end up a showy dunker but not a player
one of the analysts/podcasts i listen to, likened him to Terrance ross.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#260 » by phanman » Tue Jan 31, 2023 8:40 pm

Los_29 wrote:
phanman wrote:
douggood wrote:devonte graham has 2 years after this but the 2nd year only has like 2.5 mil guarantee. so basically its just a 1 year contract.

Ahh thanks for pointing that out, I guess it makes it a bit more comforting, but still a pretty underwhelming package imo. I can't see the Pelicans eager to toss many FRPs if any if with these prospects and a guy who fits OG's profile in Herb already.

Honestly i'd rather we just go embrace the tank and go:
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With both the Lakers first rounders please :lol:


Lakers don't have any picks to trade.

They have their '27 and '29.

I mean its been in the news the entire offseason/season. :roll:

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