Remind me why the Raptors traded Norman Powell

[Boogie!]

the amount of real estate fred occupies in two heads is hilarious.

Oh look here come the ad hominem attacks when he realizes he has no idea how to make proper basketball related evaluations.

Are you gonna even bother addressing the last statement in the post you quoted or are you gonna act like it's beneath you? Because according to your argument and impact on winning, a better player like fvv who impacts winning more in place of powell would've definitely put clippers over the top that game no?

why'd you bring fred into a thread about norm/trent.
two loser crew got one track mind.

You don't understand the context? I literally laid it out for you couldn't make it any clearer. Either you're being willfully ignorant or you lack critical thinking skills which one is it?

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Oh look here come the ad hominem attacks when he realizes he has no idea how to make proper basketball related evaluations.

Are you gonna even bother addressing the last statement in the post you quoted or are you gonna act like it's beneath you? Because according to your argument and impact on winning, a better player like fvv who impacts winning more in place of powell would've definitely put clippers over the top that game no?

why'd you bring fred into a thread about norm/trent.
two loser crew got one track mind.

You don't understand the context? I literally laid it out for you couldn't make it any clearer. Either you're being willfully ignorant or you lack critical thinking skills which one is it?

what context are you talking about? comparing a bench player playing aside two allstar/superstars v. a starter playing aside two lesser players?
norm's having a good season and a better one than trent at that, but he's also in a better situation than trent.

[srhcan]

Why did Masai trade Norman Powell?

he would have cost too much money and cap would be atrocious

[mihaic]

Gary had 40 pts game. Good for Norm, but:

Do you guys remember Norm's mistake as a Blazer on last minute play that goth them eliminated?

Some people here are blaming FO for being too attached to their players. Some people here are too attached to former players.

I wouldn't be surprised if some fall in both categories

[lebron stopper]

I might be alone on this but imo if we allowed Norm the same opportunities as Pascal I think he'd be a much more potent offensive player (minus playmaking).

You're definitely not alone in thinking that. Frankly, given what Powell has showed over his career and particularly the last few years, I don't see how that should be a particularly controversial opinion either.

The Raptors FO had always clearly undervalued Powell every step of the way, to the point where they deluded themselves into thinking a random garden-variety chucker like Grent could easily replace what he does. It was a bad trade then and it's even worse now, not because the Raptors didn't keep him, but because the Raptors sold very low on him (without even realizing it) and then watched their cheap shiny new toy lose all of its luster within two years.

Of course, anyone like me who actually paid attention to Powell's entire career (down to even the teeny-tiny minutiae) knew that the idea of Powell being that easily replaceable was farcical. Not surprisingly, those who didn't figure it out back then are still spewing very bad takes when it comes to Powell - they don't know anything when it comes to him, and I doubt they ever will.

[earth007]

I might be alone on this but imo if we allowed Norm the same opportunities as Pascal I think he'd be a much more potent offensive player (minus playmaking).

You're definitely not alone in thinking that. Frankly, given what Powell has showed over his career and particularly the last few years, I don't see how that should be a particularly controversial opinion either.

The Raptors FO had always clearly undervalued Powell every step of the way, to the point where they deluded themselves into thinking a random garden-variety chucker like Grent could easily replace what he does. It was a bad trade then and it's even worse now, not because the Raptors didn't keep him, but because the Raptors sold very low on him (without even realizing it) and then watched their cheap shiny new toy lose all of its luster within two years.

Of course, anyone like me who actually paid attention to Powell's entire career (down to even the teeny-tiny minutiae) knew that the idea of Powell being that easily replaceable was farcical. Not surprisingly, those who didn't figure it out back then are still spewing very bad takes when it comes to Powell - they don't know anything when it comes to him, and I doubt they ever will.

I mean, Powell's play making skills alone would have helped this team a lot in the last two season. We traded a well rounded player for a one-dimensional player, because of his age. Yet the FO want to build around the core of Fvv and Pascal, who are about the same age as Powell. The decisions this FO has made since the championship have baffled my mind.

[KL78192020]

Why did Masai trade Norman Powell?

he would have cost too much money and cap would be atrocious

And yet here they are two years later with the same issue with a dwindling roster. Now Norms contract will look better compared to what GTJ is about to get.

[johanliebert]

Funny how some posters changed their tune over one game. Wish washy board.

[Los_29]

Rough game from Norm today. This kind of game is a lot closer to what you’re normally going to get with him. More turnovers than assists and generally a non-factor if his shot isn’t falling.

[dafan590]

Stop blaming Masai...the blame should go to the cheap owners!!! Always!!!

OT: Did anyone get anything back for losing one day of internet last year?

[bluerap23]

Bad Norm showed up tonight

[MoneyBall]

I know this is a Norm thread but I never thought I'd say we dodged a bullet by not re-signing Kawhi.

[Eternia]

Powell is a really good finisher and shooter but that's about it. He still has tunnel vision so he can't really make plays for others. Doesn't rebound. Questionable defense. His current role of a fringe starter or sixth man is exactly where he should be. Not elite enough scoring to be the focal point of the offense but plays well enough in spurts to warrant more minutes. He would be an improvement over Trent but not much. It wouldn't exactly solve our problems, he's basically the same player now as he was when he was traded to Portland.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Rough game from Norm today. This kind of game is a lot closer to what you’re normally going to get with him. More turnovers than assists and generally a non-factor if his shot isn’t falling.

Not norms fault. He was put in a bad spot with kawhi and pg out.
But that’s norms reality as a role player.
Also good reminder to certain posters on this board not to start threads based on one game samples.

[srhcan]

Masai was right in trading Norm. Even if GTJ walks away this season, it was a right trade.

[Raps in 4]

Norm with the FVV stat line today

[mdenny]

Rough game from Norm today. This kind of game is a lot closer to what you’re normally going to get with him. More turnovers than assists and generally a non-factor if his shot isn’t falling.

Not norms fault. He was put in a bad spot with kawhi and pg out.
But that’s norms reality as a role player.
Also good reminder to certain posters on this board not to start threads based on one game samples.

People criminally underestimate norm's brain facts in big moments. His last season with the raps he was amazing on offense....but I remember a 7 game span where 4 of the daggers that beat us was off a completely unacceptable error by norm . One of them was the tony snell buzzer beater. Another was pistons saddiq bey. I remember posting clips of them at the time. All 4 of them were egregious blown rotations where norm got lost.

It so happened that all 4 of these game-clinching errors came while norm was on an incredible shooting streak. Think he was averaging 30 points per game during those 7 games. He needed to be on a team that plays man defense because he's a decent defender one on one. Just don't ask him to rotate lol.

[Ranger One]

I might be alone on this but imo if we allowed Norm the same opportunities as Pascal I think he'd be a much more potent offensive player (minus playmaking).

You're definitely not alone in thinking that. Frankly, given what Powell has showed over his career and particularly the last few years, I don't see how that should be a particularly controversial opinion either.

The Raptors FO had always clearly undervalued Powell every step of the way, to the point where they deluded themselves into thinking a random garden-variety chucker like Grent could easily replace what he does. It was a bad trade then and it's even worse now, not because the Raptors didn't keep him, but because the Raptors sold very low on him (without even realizing it) and then watched their cheap shiny new toy lose all of its luster within two years.

Of course, anyone like me who actually paid attention to Powell's entire career (down to even the teeny-tiny minutiae) knew that the idea of Powell being that easily replaceable was farcical. Not surprisingly, those who didn't figure it out back then are still spewing very bad takes when it comes to Powell - they don't know anything when it comes to him, and I doubt they ever will.

It was a cost cutting move plain and simple. Anyone thinking it had anything to do with age or potential or ceiling blah blah blah are idiots. The FO didnt want to pay powell what he was worth and thats all theres to it. They chose to pay Siakam and FVV instead, which as we all know was the WRONG choice.

[Los_29]

Norm with the FVV stat line today

Minus the defense and assists then you might be onto something.

[execoftheyear]

we traded him because Masai has 30 Norman Powell's waiting to get drafted in future drafts next to the 10 Joel Embiid's he has already scouted