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Post#241 » by brownbobcat » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:48 pm

Dennis 37 wrote:Sure, if you ride your starters to the point they are burned out come playoffs, yes you can get 48 wins.

I think they brought in vets and let go of Banton because the FO wanted to go all in on Malachi. Malachi needed a long leash. I thought it a big gamble, but it has worked out pretty well. Both Banton and Malachi need the ball in their hands. You pick one or the other.

The got Poeltl because putting OG at center was an injury just waiting to happen. The lack of development had already shown its ugly face by then.

Needing to go "all-in" on a guy whose upside is being a backup is kind of ridiculous. And whose fault was it that they had no center?
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Post#242 » by Dennis 37 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:54 pm

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Dennis 37 wrote:Sure, if you ride your starters to the point they are burned out come playoffs, yes you can get 48 wins.

I think they brought in vets and let go of Banton because the FO wanted to go all in on Malachi. Malachi needed a long leash. I thought it a big gamble, but it has worked out pretty well. Both Banton and Malachi need the ball in their hands. You pick one or the other.

The got Poeltl because putting OG at center was an injury just waiting to happen. The lack of development had already shown its ugly face by then.

Needing to go "all-in" on a guy whose upside is being a backup is kind of ridiculous. And whose fault was it that they had no center?


Indeed. Nurse played nobody enough last year to make a decision on. It was ridiculous that, after a spring of very competent play out of Malachi, he gets glued to the bench or has a very short leash the following year. That we had no center is not an excuse for the lack of development of the players he did have.
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Post#243 » by Los_29 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:41 pm

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Badonkadonk wrote:The Fred discourse was the lowest point I've seen on RGM. Like people couldn't see at least 4 defenders with 1 foot in the paint and no half court offense to speak of, and didn't understand why possessions ended with Pascal trying to spin his way to a bucket or Fred having to foist from range because nobody else could shoot (at least that Nick trusted).

Turns out, having shooters and a skilled big (Sengun) means he's all of a sudden a "willing passer" to the tune of 8.8apg, which is 4th in the league, and fresh off a 16 assist game vs. the Lakers.

lol Fred is ass, literally one of the least efficient shooters in the league. Keep supporting that brick artist that hijacked the offense so he could get paid. Also imagine in 2023 thinking assist = unselfish. Hilarious.


lol 3-13 last night cost his team the game. Terrible. Rockets are coming down back to earth after a decent stretch.


Didn’t watch the game but didn’t he have like 16 assists? Or was that the previous game? Rockets are a bad team but they look far better with Fred in the lineup. Their top 3 picks in Green and Smith have been disappointing. Seems like their non-lottery picks are their best players.
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Post#244 » by Scase » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:43 pm

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brownbobcat wrote:
Dennis 37 wrote:Sure, if you ride your starters to the point they are burned out come playoffs, yes you can get 48 wins.

I think they brought in vets and let go of Banton because the FO wanted to go all in on Malachi. Malachi needed a long leash. I thought it a big gamble, but it has worked out pretty well. Both Banton and Malachi need the ball in their hands. You pick one or the other.

The got Poeltl because putting OG at center was an injury just waiting to happen. The lack of development had already shown its ugly face by then.

Needing to go "all-in" on a guy whose upside is being a backup is kind of ridiculous. And whose fault was it that they had no center?


Indeed. Nurse played nobody enough last year to make a decision on. It was ridiculous that, after a spring of very competent play out of Malachi, he gets glued to the bench or has a very short leash the following year. That we had no center is not an excuse for the lack of development of the players he did have.


GTJ played 32mpg - Plenty of minutes
Precious played 20mpg - Plenty of minutes considering he is borderline braindead
Koloko played 14mpg - Maybe he could have played more, but the kid was fouling a crazy amount and is a 0 on offence, hard to justify.
Flynn 13mpg - He's better this year, but marginally at best and it's pretty much inline with last years stats given increased minutes.
Dowtin 10mpg - I think he should've played more, but he's also 25 so it's not for development, but because FVV was cancer to watch.
Banton 9mpg - LOL dude is garbage and has less minutes and worse stats than last year.

So for anyone worth playing, they got minutes, and the rest got nothing because they are awful NBA players. You give a coach a **** roster, and he will play good players, this is not specific to Nurse. He was on the end of a contract and the FO was setting him up for failure, so he did his best to rack up as many wins as possible to secure a new job. This is entirely on Masai, it's the same thing that happened with FVV, and it looks to be the same thing happening with Siakam.

This apparent "selfishness" that Masai likes to complain about is a direct result of his "Prove it" mentality/challenge he set forth.
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Post#245 » by Johnny Bball » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:20 pm

Scase wrote:Happy to see it, Nurse was not the problem. He was handed a dumpster tier roster and expected to make the best of it. Unless we all think that developing Dalano Banton and Malachi Flynn were the priority.


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Post#246 » by sbsat » Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:34 pm

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KL78192020 wrote:
720 wrote:lol Fred is ass, literally one of the least efficient shooters in the league. Keep supporting that brick artist that hijacked the offense so he could get paid. Also imagine in 2023 thinking assist = unselfish. Hilarious.


lol 3-13 last night cost his team the game. Terrible. Rockets are coming down back to earth after a decent stretch.


Didn’t watch the game but didn’t he have like 16 assists? Or was that the previous game? Rockets are a bad team but they look far better with Fred in the lineup. Their top 3 picks in Green and Smith have been disappointing. Seems like their non-lottery picks are their best players.


Fred is running a beautiful pick n roll game with senguin and is helping transform their defensive identity. They are not a fun team to play.

That being said his shot continues to be god awful. Honestly eventually defenders may just drop onto the roll and leave him open to shoot.
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Post#247 » by Los_29 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:57 am

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lol 3-13 last night cost his team the game. Terrible. Rockets are coming down back to earth after a decent stretch.


Didn’t watch the game but didn’t he have like 16 assists? Or was that the previous game? Rockets are a bad team but they look far better with Fred in the lineup. Their top 3 picks in Green and Smith have been disappointing. Seems like their non-lottery picks are their best players.


Fred is running a beautiful pick n roll game with senguin and is helping transform their defensive identity. They are not a fun team to play.

That being said his shot continues to be god awful. Honestly eventually defenders may just drop onto the roll and leave him open to shoot.


Yeah for sure. They are playing competitive basketball even against good teams on the road. Fred and Sengun have excellent chemistry. Their lottery talent has really let them down though.

They might be able to hang around and get a play-in spot. Doesn’t sound like much but considering they won like 20 games last year, that’s a significant improvement.
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Post#248 » by refshateRaps » Wed Nov 22, 2023 4:11 pm

Nurse wasn't the one who lost the lockeroom

The lockeroom was lost
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Post#249 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:14 pm

Gotta love the sentiment that he "lost the locker room" as a justification for his firing.

When 70% of the locker room doesn't even belong in the NBA, who the **** actually cares?
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Post#250 » by Duffman100 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:15 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Gotta love the sentiment that he "lost the locker room" as a justification for his firing.

When 70% of the locker room doesn't even belong in the NBA, who the **** actually cares?


Because it speaks to his ability to long term keep an engaged locker room?
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Post#251 » by refshateRaps » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:18 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Gotta love the sentiment that he "lost the locker room" as a justification for his firing.

When 70% of the locker room doesn't even belong in the NBA, who the **** actually cares?


Its a very dishonest narrative

A team that has no direction is 'lost'.
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Post#252 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:19 pm

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TorontoBarneys wrote:Gotta love the sentiment that he "lost the locker room" as a justification for his firing.

When 70% of the locker room doesn't even belong in the NBA, who the **** actually cares?


Because it speaks to his ability to long term keep an engaged locker room?


Seems like he did a fine job of that in the years preceding? Or are we only judging his last year here?
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Post#253 » by Duffman100 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:20 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
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TorontoBarneys wrote:Gotta love the sentiment that he "lost the locker room" as a justification for his firing.

When 70% of the locker room doesn't even belong in the NBA, who the **** actually cares?


Because it speaks to his ability to long term keep an engaged locker room?


Seems like he did a fine job of that in the years preceding? Or are we only judging his last year here?


Again, 'seems' like it. We don't really know, he could have been rubbing people the wrong way the entire time and it came to a head?
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Post#254 » by MiamiSPX » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:22 pm

He basically quit via a PC in the midst of a playoff push. He was leaving no matter what.
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Post#255 » by refshateRaps » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:23 pm

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Because it speaks to his ability to long term keep an engaged locker room?


Seems like he did a fine job of that in the years preceding? Or are we only judging his last year here?


Again, 'seems' like it. We don't really know, he could have been rubbing people the wrong way the entire time and it came to a head?



If this narrative was the case?... Id argue he was likely just for rubbing people the wrong way. Clearly he was not the issue and there was and still are issues with this team which are more glaring to everyone on the outside under the new happy go lucky coach.
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Post#256 » by Duffman100 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:26 pm

refshateRaps wrote:
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TorontoBarneys wrote:
Seems like he did a fine job of that in the years preceding? Or are we only judging his last year here?


Again, 'seems' like it. We don't really know, he could have been rubbing people the wrong way the entire time and it came to a head?



If this narrative was the case?... Id argue he was likely just for rubbing people the wrong way. Clearly he was not the issue and there was and still are issues with this team which are more glaring to everyone on the outside under the new happy go lucky coach.


Sure, but that's a different argument.

Did he lose the locker room?

vs

If he lost the locker room, but the locker room was fully of **** players, does it matter?
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Post#257 » by refshateRaps » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:29 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
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Again, 'seems' like it. We don't really know, he could have been rubbing people the wrong way the entire time and it came to a head?



If this narrative was the case?... Id argue he was likely just for rubbing people the wrong way. Clearly he was not the issue and there was and still are issues with this team which are more glaring to everyone on the outside under the new happy go lucky coach.


Sure, but that's a different argument.

Did he lose the locker room?

vs

If he lost the locker room, but the locker room was fully of **** players, does it matter?




The teams depth was far worse then I expected. I cant blame Nurse for not playing some of these guys. I was more concerned with the headline act of FVV and Pascal that the guy had to work with.

The teams construction was and is brutal and that issue was and is all that was truly lost.
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Post#258 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:31 pm

Maybe he did lose the locker room and maybe there was friction for years, and maybe he was a goner no matter what, but you can't deny that he's a coach that gets you results. Some people here were way too happy to see him gone in the offseason, as if it has solved any of our problems. A lot more blame needs to start being piled on the FO, and that seems to be starting to happen.

I'm still not done evaluating Darko, and as a rookie coach he clearly has room to grow, but there were actual sentiments that our offense would improve by leaps and bounds just due to his hiring.
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Post#259 » by DelAbbot » Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:49 pm

https://carrollspaper.com/news/nick-nurse-purchases-carroll-country-club/article_e517a6ec-cf73-11ee-9215-0bd3f23b9466.html

Carroll native, Kuemper graduate and current head coach of NBA team the Philadelphia 76ers Nick Nurse has purchased the Carroll Country Club. Nurse tells the Times Herald the sale was finalized last week.

The journey to buying the Carroll Country Club began last summer, when Nurse got an email from a Carroll resident asking for help in keeping the golf course alive.

”I just think we can give the Carroll area a nice course that it’s always been and keep it going, improve it a little bit, bit by bit as we go,” Nurse said.

His family were members of the Carroll Country Club for over 35 years, and Nurse says his love for golf started there. Growing up, Nurse played in junior golf tournaments, father-son tournaments and club championships at the Carroll Country Club.

He remembers spending all day on the golf course, including the Fourth of July.

”You’d spend all day out there. You’d play some golf, have a barbecue, do some swimming, watch some fireworks. It seems like it’s a place where we grew up and had a lot of good memories,” Nurse said.

A lot of that time on the golf course was spent with family, he says. His dad used to play golf every day, and whenever Nurse came back to Carroll, he’d play every day with him.
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Post#260 » by Chandan » Thu Feb 22, 2024 6:54 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
Dennis 37 wrote:Sure, if you ride your starters to the point they are burned out come playoffs, yes you can get 48 wins.

I think they brought in vets and let go of Banton because the FO wanted to go all in on Malachi. Malachi needed a long leash. I thought it a big gamble, but it has worked out pretty well. Both Banton and Malachi need the ball in their hands. You pick one or the other.

The got Poeltl because putting OG at center was an injury just waiting to happen. The lack of development had already shown its ugly face by then.

Needing to go "all-in" on a guy whose upside is being a backup is kind of ridiculous. And whose fault was it that they had no center?


none of those decisions worked out did it.
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