Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward”

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I genuinely can't get over this

Even last summer when this rumor was floating around I was badly advocating for it.

Hell we need to revisit this, if we can somehow turn Siakam/OG into Sharpe+3+salary I'd do it.

We need a fresh restart with a new coach and a new direction. More emphasis on explosiveness, shooting, shot creation. Become a younger, funner team, maybe even bottom out to it keep our pick next year

There were a few of us that day on the forum just waiting all draft to hear a trade go down. I was a big Sharpe fan too. I was sad we didn’t make any moves.

Now with this Siakam stuff, Woj and Shams haven’t even put out that Toronto and Portland are talking again. We’re all just hoping Toronto sees the light. But with the trash ass Poeltl trade and overall non action with the expiring guys at the deadline (Fred and Gary), that’s not necessarily a given.

2 the past 3 seasons ending in complete failure means something has to change. Coaching change is a good start, but this #3 pick would take it to the next level

[tdotrep2]

a move will be made, the we cant afford to keep everyone and i doubt they run it back with the same roster minus a key player or two...

[PhilBlackson]

Saw this Blazers fan comment and it sounds pretty realistic:

If you could get Orlando to trade 6, 11 and either Wagner or Carter for 3 and Ant that would be fantastic. Then flip 6 and 11 for something like OG or Siakam I think that would be a nice upgrade.

That's something I'd definitely consider.

Maybe you can get them to give up Sharpe + #6 + #11 for OG + #13

You guys really, really need to get over this idea that we’d get Sharpe too for anything less than BOTH Pascal & OG (which I would do in a heartbeat/it’s the dream trade but incredibly unlikely) because what you’re essentially proposing is they trade ALL their best assets they have and use it all just getting OG which is senseless lol and we already know what their plans are, as it’s already been reported — 3rd + Simons (period) lol everything else is wishful thinking.

As for the idea of trading the 3rd for both ORL picks, personally I don’t find that more enticing. Scoot (in particular) and Miller have far better odds of panning out than those later ones and with the exception of MAYBE Ausar, there’s no one really with comparable upside yet the 2 names at 3rd are already closer and more likely to reach their potentials. If Scoot is there at 3, no way would I want them to trade down and there would also be a REASON why ORL wants to get up there lol because Scoot is that dude.

Idc if it’s Pascal or OG, if the 3rd is available for either guy, I pull the trigger. Simons is whatever and we could let him go bananas for a year or so to further increase his value or redirect him for more picks or in a trade for a different player. If POR is interested again, this is a trade Masai MUST make, no more of these silly overvaluations and emotions.

[Thaddy]

I'm not interested in Simons + 3rd. Henderson looks overrated his stats are very bad compared to his teammates Cissoko. I don't see anything special in an undersized guard with significant shooting struggles.

Harris + 6 + 11 for OG.

6th Hendricks. 11th Dick, and 13th Wallace. REF: nbadraftroom.com draft projections.

Poeltl - Koloko
Hendricks - Boucher
Siakam - Dick - OPJ
Barnes - GTJ - Harris
FVV - Wallace

That team is better than what we put out this year. Hendricks, Dick, and Wallace all have high floors and look like they could be immediate contributors.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Dame is calling the shots now and once the Blazers understand they're not getting Bridges they will come back to the table for OG. Given the demand last time it's gonna take #3 in a weak draft along with #23 and they will pay it.

[ItsDanger]

Sharpe is still available for OG. He didn't impact winning much at all in his rookie season. Not going to be much different in next season or 2 let alone winning in playoffs. Dame is talking about winning, not putting up stats.

[720]

a move will be made, the we cant afford to keep everyone and i doubt they run it back with the same roster minus a key player or two...

It makes too much sense but Masai is the same guy that didn’t trade Lowry at the deadline and didn’t trade Gary or Fred at the deadline and instead trade a 1st round pick for a starter. I’m hopeful though. I’ve been manifesting this Portland trade for months lol, the day before the draft I said if we don’t go up in the draft we should hope one of Portland or Dallas move up to 3rd/4th because those are the only two teams I see trading such a high pick for immediate help.

[tdotrep2]

another issue, wouldn't it have to be simons AND nurkic? do they value nurk?

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Sharpe is still available for OG. He didn't impact winning much at all in his rookie season. Not going to be much different in next season or 2 let alone winning in playoffs. Dame is talking about winning, not putting up stats.

Hopefully because I'd prefer him over #3 given the flashes he showed down the stretch. POR can still center an Anunoby trade around Sharpe + #23 + future 2nds and then use #3 + Simons to try to get something out of another team.

[raptor jesus]

I still don't believe the Blazers will trade #3. I think they will come to the realization that's it smarter from a team building perspective to make the pick, and then trade Dame for more assets.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I still don't believe the Blazers will trade #3. I think they will come to the realization that's it smarter from a team building perspective to make the pick, and then trade Dame for more assets.

this is what i'm thinking too.
why can't we make a play for lillard? gives us a roughly three year window of competitiveness/contention and then go from there.

[HumbleRen]

I still don't believe the Blazers will trade #3. I think they will come to the realization that's it smarter from a team building perspective to make the pick, and then trade Dame for more assets.

Same.

I’m just hoping Dame pushes them hard to make the trade and they’ll cave in.

[ItsDanger]

Lillard has 4 years left on his deal, peaking at $63M in 26/27. Trading for Lillard would be extremely difficult to manage for any team. So far the evidence over past 2 seasons suggests they're not trading him.

[Son Goku 25]

I don't think people are looking at it from a different perspective.

Who's to say Portland doesn't just trade Lillard this off season and does a proper rebuild with all those picks etc? They can say whatever they want but I wouldn't be surprised if that's something they are considering.

[JRoy]

I'm not interested in Simons + 3rd. Henderson looks overrated his stats are very bad compared to his teammates Cissoko. I don't see anything special in an undersized guard with significant shooting struggles.

Harris + 6 + 11 for OG.

6th Hendricks. 11th Dick, and 13th Wallace. REF: nbadraftroom.com draft projections.

Poeltl - Koloko
Hendricks - Boucher
Siakam - Dick - OPJ
Barnes - GTJ - Harris
FVV - Wallace

That team is better than what we put out this year. Hendricks, Dick, and Wallace all have high floors and look like they could be immediate contributors.

2 lotto picks for an expiring OG?

[mtcan]

I don't think people are looking at it from a different perspective.

Who's to say Portland doesn't just trade Lillard this off season and does a proper rebuild with all those picks etc? They can say whatever they want but I wouldn't be surprised if that's something they are considering.

I just don't see why they would do it now considering they have had numerous chances in years past. There is definitely a breaking point but I don't know what that is.

[Raptors Realtor]

I don't think people are looking at it from a different perspective.

Who's to say Portland doesn't just trade Lillard this off season and does a proper rebuild with all those picks etc? They can say whatever they want but I wouldn't be surprised if that's something they are considering.

People have considered that perspective at length, the issue being matching Lillard's enormous salary, and considering Lillard's age, it would be current contenders interested, they'd likely have to trade 2-3 significant players in order to match, not an easy feat.

[The Duke]

My hypothetical trade value hierarchy:

Dame

#3
Barnes

Sharpe | Siakam
OG

Simons
#13

(TOR guys are older coming free agents who can freely leave at the end of the season, whereas POR has younger assets with cheap contracts for the foreseeable future)

[Kingsway_fan]

another issue, wouldn't it have to be simons AND nurkic? do they value nurk?

He is useless... don't want.

[Psubs]

Lillard has 4 years left on his deal, peaking at $63M in 26/27. Trading for Lillard would be extremely difficult to manage for any team. So far the evidence over past 2 seasons suggests they're not trading him.

New Orleans is the team that is ready to be a contender and has the draft picks to make it happen. Lillard and McCollum together again!

Zion, Kira Lewis, #14 and 2nd pick 2024.

PG Lillard - McCollum - Alvarado
SG McCollum - Dyson
SF Ingram - Herb
PF Murphy - Nance
C Valaciunas - Jaxson

Sign Grant Williams for the MLE with max raises (player option 4th).