2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[niQ]

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I remember hearing his name in the previous draft thread. But not much noise considering he was always mocked in 2nd round after our pick.

[PushDaRock]

Watching Edey in March Madness and he isn't slow and lumbering. He is 300 lbs but he isn't out of shape.

I see him moving well when he sets a high pick and proceeds to well to the basket.

He is by no means slow.

And I have faith that he can start shooting more from distance. I doubt he will shoot as well as KAT but he will probably be as good as JV.

He is athletic for a guy his size. He has played hockey and baseball since the age of 6 and being a multi-sport athlete bodes well for him further developing his game as a pro.

The cardio is absolutely insane as well, playing the entire game at his size is unheard of.

[Randle McMurphy]

There are a lot of useful bigs who don't guard the pnR effectively yet still carve out useful roles.

Yes, like Boban.

The list is a lot longer than Boban.

Boban is only comparable in terms of size. Boban wasn't skilled enough to be a NBA player. That's why he barely got of the bench.

I think you can very easily make the argument that Boban (at least when he was in his physical prime and not age 35) is a more skilled version of Edey.

[mtcan]

Watching Edey in March Madness and he isn't slow and lumbering. He is 300 lbs but he isn't out of shape.

I see him moving well when he sets a high pick and proceeds to well to the basket.

He is by no means slow.

And I have faith that he can start shooting more from distance. I doubt he will shoot as well as KAT but he will probably be as good as JV.

He is athletic for a guy his size. He has played hockey and baseball since the age of 6 and being a multi-sport athlete bodes well for him further developing his game as a pro.

The cardio is absolutely insane as well, playing the entire game at his size is unheard of.

Exactly.

The comparisons to Boban are ridiculous. Boban looks like his knees are ready to buckle any time he steps on the court.

Other than being the same height...they are not alike.

[OAKLEY_2]

That's a good point, another is that the NBA is a trend league, and eventually a new trend emerges. Right now, outside shooting is godly, but a good post scorer can get a higher percentage, and if it's high enough, it forces a change in approach. He's a young senior and if he adds almost anything to his game, he and other 7-footers will force team management to adjust their thinking about interior size and how to draft, trade, sign FAs. He's a good gamble with the Indiana pick, and Kelly - who can't defend a chair inside - could play with him as a stretch 4 off the bench. One other thing about Edey - he's cut out for FIBA play, no three-second rule, batting ball sitting on rim allowed, and the three point distance is shorter so he has less ground to cover out to the three-point line. All good for Team Canada.

And one more thing. In college, because he was carrying Purdue and the NCAA game only allow one five fouls, he couldn't afford to foul opponents like he would be able to do as a bench player in the NBA. Purdue couldn't;t afford him being in foul trouble. He will not have that issue when is drafted. I expect his D will be even more intimidating. The team that drafts him will encourage hard fouls.

He won’t be able to foul anybody if he can’t move fast enough to touch them.

Rubbish, you don't have to be Andre DeGrasse to belt somebody going up for a layup.

And I wonder who gets subbed in for critical free throw rebounds late in a game? I would be sending in Edey to vacuum up loose balls or box out the entire starting 5 of opponents with the real estate he'll most certainly command. He is the perfect role player. Match up big so as to not get owned by Embiid or a Steven Adams. Would move Kelly to the 4.

[OakleyDokely]

Yes, like Boban.

The list is a lot longer than Boban.

Boban is only comparable in terms of size. Boban wasn't skilled enough to be a NBA player. That's why he barely got of the bench.

I think you can very easily make the argument that Boban (at least when he was in his physical prime and not age 35) is a more skilled version of Edey.

A skilled version of Boban (without the injury issues) is a functional NBA player.

[PushDaRock]

This draft also just absolutely blows, you can't even be confident you draft a role player that will stick in the league at 15 or 16. If Edey were available at that pick, I would take him and try to hit the homerun. Worst case, you still have a situational big that can play 15 minutes some nights against certain 5's.

I don't think he will be though. I think he's played himself into a lottery pick.

[Raptorfan2012]

What are the issues with Kel'Ware? He seems like fit to today's prototype of a modern big (can block, can shoot a bit). Heard he may have a bad attitude (but we have heard that about other young guys that ended up being good). What else? Otherwise, he is a good candidate for our Pacers pick.

[Bruin]

What are the issues with Kel'Ware? He seems like fit to today's prototype of a modern big (can block, can shoot a bit). Heard he may have a bad attitude (but we have heard that about other young guys that ended up being good). What else? Otherwise, he is a good candidate for our Pacers pick.

Bad work ethic and lazy. Hard to tell if he will mature but he certainly has the tools to be a stud

[ciueli]

I'm actually warming up to Zach as a prospect, the first half of the final game he looked like a real NBA player even though he was up against someone his own size in Clingan. Realistically he's never going to be a guy who gets more than 20MPG so that's fine, if he can exert that kind of energy for even 10-15 minutes in the NBA he has a place. I think he goes late first round, I wouldn't use the Indiana pick on him but he'll likely be gone by the time our Detroit pick rolls around.

[mtcan]

This draft also just absolutely blows, you can't even be confident you draft a role player that will stick in the league at 15 or 16. If Edey were available at that pick, I would take him and try to hit the homerun. Worst case, you still have a situational big that can play 15 minutes some nights against certain 5's.

Too many mystery boxes and guys who aren't complete enough to make a decent call on what they could be.

Sarr has length, athleticism and defensive awareness to be a really good starter or at least an all-star.

Risacher hasn't had a good season so far. I see little to no growth. He is a mystery box.

Stephon Castle I like but not with a top 6 pick. I like his defensive potential but the shooting leaves a lot to be desired. He is Marcus Smart or Jalen Suggs as a best case scenario?

Ron Holland...I don't know but I don't have a high opinion on any of the G League Ignite guys based on history.

[BetterCallSaul]

Have no interest in drafting Edey. At least not with our first two picks. I'm fine if we pick him with the Detroit pick, but we already have Poeltl and KO. Our next C should ideally be a true lob threat/shot blocking archetype.

Edey could eventually find a high level role as a Brook Lopez type (not sure about the shooting, but maybe as a defensive drop big man) but in the meantime I think the NBA will absolutely skewer his feet. Is he lumbering? No. But he's still too slow for the NBA game IMO.
A bigger Zubac maybe? That's a great prospect for sure.

Things I didn't like about his game:
- When Uconn went small he got lobbed over twice in a row and gave up an offensive rebound to a 6'6 backup C. Yes, he fouled the guy out easily, but imagine a decent NBA undersized C instead.
- When he passes, it takes him too long. Two hands up in the air, predictable kickouts. He doesn't use his giant mits to flick his wrist off the dribble for kickouts before the D sees it coming. This affected his team's ability to get open threes.
- His offensive rebounding didn't impress me.

[ItsDanger]

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I liked this guy for the early 2nd a while ago. But he's so low usage on that team, it's hard for anyone to get a good feel for his potential.

[Psubs]

What are the issues with Kel'Ware? He seems like fit to today's prototype of a modern big (can block, can shoot a bit). Heard he may have a bad attitude (but we have heard that about other young guys that ended up being good). What else? Otherwise, he is a good candidate for our Pacers pick.

I think it's more like he came into college thinking he would dominate then didn't. Transferred and worked on his game.

[Reeko]

Probably unfair to judge him off of this single extremely high pressure game, but Castle did nothing to standout. Did Edey's presence deter him from driving? Also looked hesitant shooting. I would take Holland and Sheppard ahead of him, based on the limited information that I have.

[ATLTimekeeper]

His foot speed is concerning. And his over reliance on that right hand hook (he does have a counter).

I can’t see him being much more than a 20 minute guy. NBA defenses are going to put him action constantly.

Rooting for him but a little worried.

I dunno, he flat out dominated this tournament and all season. One game is creating a lot of overreactions, but I would argue that a lot of players in high stakes competition will have to rely on their best skills. Consider how easily he dominated with that one-hand dominance. The dude just had 37 of his team's 60 points and put all their bigs in foul trouble and fans are using that as evidence that he's a 'situational big.'

In terms of how much he plays, it's hard to get over 30 minutes at 7 feet anyway. Gobert leads all 7+ footers at 34 minutes. If Edey gets into that 25-30 minute range he's well worth the Indy pick.

NBA bigs are more skilled and agile. Olynyk will just beat Edey down the court all day. Also in the half-court, take him out to the 3 pt line. On defense Olynyk would hold his own. Edey would get beat down the court all day against other NBA C's. Ware is probably the slowest you can get away with to be effective. Edey and Clingan would be barely playable on the fast break like Tacko Fall and Hasheem Thabeet.

Brook Lopez has been beaten down the court by everyone since day one and only gotten slower. NBA coaches are clever enough to compensate. At 15 or whatever the Indy pick is, the risk is well worth finding out if he's too slow. Like, I know you follow the draft closely, but you have to know what the chances are of this pick being a useful player is. The reward is too good with Edey at that point.

[Dalek]

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I remember hearing his name in the previous draft thread. But not much noise considering he was always mocked in 2nd round after our pick.

I am thinking this kid is being mocked too low considering he is playing in a tough men's league like the German one is. It isn't exactly easy to be 18/19 and play big minutes on those teams. What I do see is a high energy kid who can hit some jumpers fluidly (no obvious hitch in his shot), plays with some offensive awareness off ball, and his defense looks like he has high motor. The potential for his body type to gain weight and his motor seem pretty real and he is one of the draft's youngest players. Some say he has some OG potential to him.

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[OAKLEY_2]

Yes, like Boban.

The list is a lot longer than Boban.

Boban is only comparable in terms of size. Boban wasn't skilled enough to be a NBA player. That's why he barely got of the bench.

I think you can very easily make the argument that Boban (at least when he was in his physical prime and not age 35) is a more skilled version of Edey.

Edey is more skilled than Boban.

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