Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[Son Goku 25]

We have the assets to get above and beyond their level too

Agreed. Once Jrue and a couple of their guys leave we'll be right there. As for the Cavs I can't take them seriously yet, Knicks can be actually dangerous.

No we won't.

Who is our Tatum?

If we find our 1A scorer this year, this team can compete in 2-3 years.

That's what I mean 2-3 years.

[Thaddy]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

[Son Goku 25]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

Need to move on from IQ. It'll have to be IQ or RJ and I'd rather it be IQ even though he's a shooter but he's not a good defender and is soft. RJ if he can come off the bench would be ideal.

We need a starting pg and long term center, right now we're ok in C spot but need a back up center.

[Thaddy]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

Need to move on from IQ. It'll have to be IQ or RJ and I'd rather it be IQ even though he's a shooter but he's not a good defender and is soft. RJ if he can come off the bench would be ideal.

We need a starting pg and long term center, right now we're ok in C spot but need a back up center.

We should be looking to tank and rehab their values and then sell high. RJ's time has come and I can't see him being here past this summer. It'll be funny seeing him expect 30+ M AAV and no one lining up to offer that. He's a bench player and he doesn't contribute to winning. I saw a thread on the GB calling him 'empty calories' and it couldn't be more true.

[bobbyp3588]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

You’re drunk.

[Stromile12]

The slim reefer is gonna go crazy

[Thaddy]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

You’re drunk.

You're on crack if you think IQ and Ingram are championship level pieces.

[YogurtProducer]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

You’re drunk.

You're on crack if you think IQ and Ingram are championship level pieces.

How do you figure the defence is going to tank harder? Dicky is one of the worst defenders on the team, so not quite sure how replacing him with BY would make that happen.

And Quickley has always been a decent defender. Can't really take that away from him based off 12 games this year in and out of the lineup.

[ArthurVandelay]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

Jesus…that’s depressing. I really hope you’re wrong.

I hope you have more going on in life than Raptors!

[Tripod]

Shocking....already doom and gloom and wanting to tank next year.

Maybe we should trade ALL of IQ, RJ, BI, SB, and Yak. Think of the picks we could get!

Oh...and Dick too because he sucks defensively. And Ochai since we isn't a real SG and might regress next year because he isn't a real shooter.

Then we will be SWIMMING in picks and play Shead, Walter, Battle Mogbo and Chomche and tank for even more picks!

Add like 5 vets for bench guys and then sell them off for even MORE picks!

Then in 3 years we will be stacked like OKC!

[tsherkin]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

Jesus…that’s depressing. I really hope you’re wrong.

I hope you have more going on in life than Raptors!

We'll have to see where we're at. If we start the season with a healthy Ingram, then that probably means Barnes is going bananers on defense. RJ has seemed improved, Quick is decent, Poeltl is decent. We've got enough pieces that we shouldn't be terrible on defense, and our offense should look better with Ingram leading the way as opposed to Scottie. We won't be elite on either side of the ball, but with those guys and the infusion of some decent top talent from the draft, I feel like there's more room for optimism next season, leastwise while BI is healthy.

[ArthurVandelay]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

Jesus…that’s depressing. I really hope you’re wrong.

I hope you have more going on in life than Raptors!

We'll have to see where we're at. If we start the season with a healthy Ingram, then that probably means Barnes is going bananers on defense. RJ has seemed improved, Quick is decent, Poeltl is decent. We've got enough pieces that we shouldn't be terrible on defense, and our offense should look better with Ingram leading the way as opposed to Scottie. We won't be elite on either side of the ball, but with those guys and the infusion of some decent top talent from the draft, I feel like there's more room for optimism next season, leastwise while BI is healthy.

Don’t forget Darko. He’s shown me enough to realize he knows how to game plan for losses in the name of “development.” I doubt we see same shenanigans next year.

[tsherkin]

Don’t forget Darko. He’s shown me enough to realize he knows how to game plan for losses in the name of “development.” I doubt we see same shenanigans next year.

Sure, I guess. We'll see. I think he probably isn't much of a needle-mover, so I'm not overly concerned with him.

[anotherhomer]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

Jesus…that’s depressing. I really hope you’re wrong.

I hope you have more going on in life than Raptors!

We'll have to see where we're at. If we start the season with a healthy Ingram, then that probably means Barnes is going bananers on defense. RJ has seemed improved, Quick is decent, Poeltl is decent. We've got enough pieces that we shouldn't be terrible on defense, and our offense should look better with Ingram leading the way as opposed to Scottie. We won't be elite on either side of the ball, but with those guys and the infusion of some decent top talent from the draft, I feel like there's more room for optimism next season, leastwise while BI is healthy.

i agree, there maybe question mark but there's optimism.

also depends who our draft pick ends up being

[tsherkin]

i agree, there maybe question mark but there's optimism.

also depends who our draft pick ends up being

Yeah, man. And the more talent we end up fielding, the more we can manage the inevitable absence BI will have during the season (even if those absences are us just being careful on back-to-backs and other heavy stretches).

[Basketball_Jones]

Scottie/RJ/BI/Yak gives us pretty good size and length all around the starting lineup. Ideally though it would probably be Ochai or Walter’s starting to at least have 3 good defenders in starting rotation. Haven’t watched enough of Ingram on defense to know how bad he is yet.

[anotherhomer]

i agree, there maybe question mark but there's optimism.

also depends who our draft pick ends up being

Yeah, man. And the more talent we end up fielding, the more we can manage the inevitable absence BI will have during the season (even if those absences are us just being careful on back-to-backs and other heavy stretches).

the draft pick is a big X factor.....

aside from Ace Bailey and Flagg, the top draft is guard heavy
we gonna need to eventually consolidate some of these guys like Jakobe, Gradey Dick, RJ all are ideally shooting guards

[planetmars]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

You’re drunk.

You're on crack if you think IQ and Ingram are championship level pieces.

Championships are not normally won out of the gate. In 2013-2014 the Raptors had DeMar, Lowry, Gay, JV, Amir, Ross, Fields (and then Patterson, Vasquez, Hayes (instead of Gay) etc.

Only one of those guys was on our championship team.

You don't need IQ or BI to be a championship level piece. You need maybe 1 guy to be a championship piece. And you build off that one guy. Heck it may be our 2025 draft pick. Maybe it is someone like Shead or Mogbo or Battle. We don't know yet.

The league has so much parity that even a .500 team can make the playoffs outright (see the Pistons for instance). The Raptors just need to start winning again, and then once they are they can try to figure out what pieces make them worse, and what pieces make them better, and then start replacing the bad players with better ones. There is usually always an iterative approach to winning.

[TorontoBarneys]

We got a half court creator in BI but our defense is probably going to tank even harder. I see Dec. 2025 as one of the lowest points in Raptors history. We're going to want to move off BI and IQ, there won't be any suitors unless we give up first round picks.

You have some of the dumbest takes I have ever seen on this board, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.

[tsherkin]

the draft pick is a big X factor.....

aside from Ace Bailey and Flagg, the top draft is guard heavy
we gonna need to eventually consolidate some of these guys like Jakobe, Gradey Dick, RJ all are ideally shooting guards

It's a big factor, yes. But some of the younger talent that we might get could be interesting. I have recently been introduced to Dylan Harper, and he looks like a compelling thought for us as well, even though we have some guard talent already.

Flagg would be great, but I think we need to prepare ourselves for that not being a thing. We have like a 9% shot at the top slot, after all, and we aren't terribly lucky in the draft as a franchise. But if we don't get TOTALLY screwed, adding Bailey or Harper or whomever could be pretty interesting, and we will find a way to integrate that talent in one way or another. Even if we select a guard, and render some of our extant assets redundant, that makes them moveable pieces, and then we can start trying to move them for other talent which we actually need as we start trying to build into a competitive squad.