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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#241 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:19 pm

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earthtone wrote:Think he's been posted on here before but I can't stop watching Jojo Tugler, he has me turning in to every Houston game. Wasn't his best game last night vs Baylor, but he's so disruptive and is the guy opposing coaches try to scheme around. Legitimately one of the most impactful and entertaining defenders I've ever seen on a basketball court.

I think him & Carter Bryant are the two most 'Masai'/Raptors types on the board this year, I'll be shocked if we don't end up with one of them.



He's only 6'7 and can't hit FT's. Is he worse than Mogbo?

Yah, I'd say he's way less skilled offensively than Mogbo. Mogbo's a much better ball-handler, driver and passer and was the offensive hub at San Fransisco last year.

Tugler's offensive game at this point almost doesn't even exist. He's not a creator or a finisher, he pretty much exclusively sets on & off-ball screens and crashes the glass. He reminds me a ton of Herb Jones in the sense his defense is so good that if he learns to be a connective passer (which he's shown pretty solid flashes of) and make a respectable amount of his open threes, he's a 10 year vet and multiple time All-Defense type guy


A 7'6" wingspan that he actually uses? It's not just a tool? Sign me up.
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Post#242 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:44 pm

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He's only 6'7 and can't hit FT's. Is he worse than Mogbo?

Yah, I'd say he's way less skilled offensively than Mogbo. Mogbo's a much better ball-handler, driver and passer and was the offensive hub at San Fransisco last year.

Tugler's offensive game at this point almost doesn't even exist. He's not a creator or a finisher, he pretty much exclusively sets on & off-ball screens and crashes the glass. He reminds me a ton of Herb Jones in the sense his defense is so good that if he learns to be a connective passer (which he's shown pretty solid flashes of) and make a respectable amount of his open threes, he's a 10 year vet and multiple time All-Defense type guy


A 7'6" wingspan that he actually uses? It's not just a tool? Sign me up.


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Post#243 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:50 pm

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earthtone wrote:Yah, I'd say he's way less skilled offensively than Mogbo. Mogbo's a much better ball-handler, driver and passer and was the offensive hub at San Fransisco last year.

Tugler's offensive game at this point almost doesn't even exist. He's not a creator or a finisher, he pretty much exclusively sets on & off-ball screens and crashes the glass. He reminds me a ton of Herb Jones in the sense his defense is so good that if he learns to be a connective passer (which he's shown pretty solid flashes of) and make a respectable amount of his open threes, he's a 10 year vet and multiple time All-Defense type guy


A 7'6" wingspan that he actually uses? It's not just a tool? Sign me up.



How are you planning to get Fleming in the second round?
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Post#244 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:05 pm

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A 7'6" wingspan that he actually uses? It's not just a tool? Sign me up.



How are you planning to get Fleming in the second round?


Draft day trade sending Ochai Abaji and Portland 2nd for a late1st and late 2nd. :nod:

This would also help get under the luxury tax. 8-)
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Post#245 » by grant101 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:17 pm

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earthtone wrote:Think he's been posted on here before but I can't stop watching Jojo Tugler, he has me turning in to every Houston game. Wasn't his best game last night vs Baylor, but he's so disruptive and is the guy opposing coaches try to scheme around. Legitimately one of the most impactful and entertaining defenders I've ever seen on a basketball court.

I think him & Carter Bryant are the two most 'Masai'/Raptors types on the board this year, I'll be shocked if we don't end up with one of them.



He's only 6'7 and can't hit FT's. Is he worse than Mogbo?

Yah, I'd say he's way less skilled offensively than Mogbo. Mogbo's a much better ball-handler, driver and passer and was the offensive hub at San Fransisco last year.

Tugler's offensive game at this point almost doesn't even exist. He's not a creator or a finisher, he pretty much exclusively sets on & off-ball screens and crashes the glass. He reminds me a ton of Herb Jones in the sense his defense is so good that if he learns to be a connective passer (which he's shown pretty solid flashes of) and make a respectable amount of his open threes, he's a 10 year vet and multiple time All-Defense type guy


LOVE Tugler! Been touting his name since last year. One of the best defensive prospects I’ve seen playing for one of the best defensive coaches out there. That said, I’m even less optimistic of his offensive upside. I don’t love his fit with our team, but I think he sticks around in the league. I also think there’s a pretty good chance he stays in college for another year.
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Post#246 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 11, 2025 11:22 pm

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He's only 6'7 and can't hit FT's. Is he worse than Mogbo?

Yah, I'd say he's way less skilled offensively than Mogbo. Mogbo's a much better ball-handler, driver and passer and was the offensive hub at San Fransisco last year.

Tugler's offensive game at this point almost doesn't even exist. He's not a creator or a finisher, he pretty much exclusively sets on & off-ball screens and crashes the glass. He reminds me a ton of Herb Jones in the sense his defense is so good that if he learns to be a connective passer (which he's shown pretty solid flashes of) and make a respectable amount of his open threes, he's a 10 year vet and multiple time All-Defense type guy


LOVE Tugler! Been touting his name since last year. One of the best defensive prospects I’ve seen playing for one of the best defensive coaches out there. That said, I’m even less optimistic of his offensive upside. I don’t love his fit with our team, but I think he sticks around in the league. I also think there’s a pretty good chance he stays in college for another year.


He might make a rotation like a Ryan Dunn? But can't shoot 3's or FT's really hurt a player's ability to get starter minutes.
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Post#247 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:03 am

Tre Johnson in t5 is going to bust. He is very similar to Malik Monk except has the dimensional advantage. Maybe that means he produces the same except in a starting capacity or has a slightly higher TS% and is just a shade less cringy on D but there is no guarantee of that really. His ORB% is unprecedented. He does have some potential as a passer but doesn't carry driving gravity. Goes on long stretches just chucking and not getting to the line.

Pretty depressing guy to select top 5.

And I think Jaku has revealed himself substantially by now.
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Post#248 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:50 am

Darryn Peterson is cementing himself as clear early #1 fav in 2026. His 17u run last year was nasty he had 69 stocks in 15 games w/ .490 FTR, 88% from he line and close to 7 rebounds/g. Complete package. Very sad the Raptors are going to likely have to select from a pool of role players and flawed creators this year at or near the top.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#249 » by S.W.A.N » Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:44 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Darryn Peterson is cementing himself as clear early #1 fav in 2026. His 17u run last year was nasty he had 69 stocks in 15 games w/ .490 FTR, 88% from he line and close to 7 rebounds/g. Complete package. Very sad the Raptors are going to likely have to select from a pool of role players and flawed creators this year at or near the top.



Yay lets suck for the next 4 years.... The only way you sucking enough for that is to trade everyone good away or have a year like this one where we have a good chuck of injuries.
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Post#250 » by Ell Curry » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:00 am

Some really nice drives by Danny Wolf tonight. He's a better shooter in theory (nice form, has a fadeaway that looks nice he's barely used, at 36% from 3 on okay volume last time I checked) than in practice (FTs bad), but he can really attack a closeout after a pick and pop, and he can really pass. If he gets on a team with a star guard and it's a good defence overall, he could really be something as a PF. Feels like he'd murder 4 on 3 situations that Steph or Lillard type create.

Smith on Purdue is the best passer I've seen so far in college ball, but he's tiny and not special athletically. I'm assuming he plays all 4 years in college. Feels like a guy who woulda made it in the 90s, but the game is very hard on small PGs and slow 5s nowadays.
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Post#251 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:04 am

Ell Curry wrote:Some really nice drives by Danny Wolf tonight. He's a better shooter in theory (nice form, has a fadeaway that looks nice he's barely used, at 36% from 3 on okay volume last time I checked) than in practice (FTs bad), but he can really attack a closeout after a pick and pop, and he can really pass. If he gets on a team with a star guard and it's a good defence overall, he could really be something as a PF. Feels like he'd murder 4 on 3 situations that Steph or Lillard type create.

Smith on Purdue is the best passer I've seen so far in college ball, but he's tiny and not special athletically. I'm assuming he plays all 4 years in college. Feels like a guy who woulda made it in the 90s, but the game is very hard on small PGs and slow 5s nowadays.

Danny is an NBA player. There’s no way a guy with his skill level doesn’t make it. Able to shoot the 3, tight handle, elite passing all at 7 feet. Sign me up!
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Post#252 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:10 am

damn, braden smith hit back to back clutch 3 pointers and wolf bricked two free throws late game and smith had a chance to win with a last chuck.... if that had gone in holy ****. he broke danny's ankles on one of the 3s.
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Post#253 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:12 am

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Ell Curry wrote:Some really nice drives by Danny Wolf tonight. He's a better shooter in theory (nice form, has a fadeaway that looks nice he's barely used, at 36% from 3 on okay volume last time I checked) than in practice (FTs bad), but he can really attack a closeout after a pick and pop, and he can really pass. If he gets on a team with a star guard and it's a good defence overall, he could really be something as a PF. Feels like he'd murder 4 on 3 situations that Steph or Lillard type create.

Smith on Purdue is the best passer I've seen so far in college ball, but he's tiny and not special athletically. I'm assuming he plays all 4 years in college. Feels like a guy who woulda made it in the 90s, but the game is very hard on small PGs and slow 5s nowadays.

Danny is an NBA player. There’s no way a guy with his skill level doesn’t make it. Able to shoot the 3, tight handle, elite passing all at 7 feet. Sign me up!


musselman thinks he's an nba player. at his dimensions and with some of his strengths he likely is but i'm worried about his turnover problem at his age and i dont factor in any shooting. add him to the plethora of rotation big candidates this year.
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Post#254 » by Ell Curry » Wed Feb 12, 2025 2:19 am

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Ell Curry wrote:Some really nice drives by Danny Wolf tonight. He's a better shooter in theory (nice form, has a fadeaway that looks nice he's barely used, at 36% from 3 on okay volume last time I checked) than in practice (FTs bad), but he can really attack a closeout after a pick and pop, and he can really pass. If he gets on a team with a star guard and it's a good defence overall, he could really be something as a PF. Feels like he'd murder 4 on 3 situations that Steph or Lillard type create.

Smith on Purdue is the best passer I've seen so far in college ball, but he's tiny and not special athletically. I'm assuming he plays all 4 years in college. Feels like a guy who woulda made it in the 90s, but the game is very hard on small PGs and slow 5s nowadays.

Danny is an NBA player. There’s no way a guy with his skill level doesn’t make it. Able to shoot the 3, tight handle, elite passing all at 7 feet. Sign me up!


musselman thinks he's an nba player. at his dimensions and with some of his strengths he likely is but i'm worried about his turnover problem at his age and i dont factor in any shooting. add him to the plethora of rotation big candidates this year.


I'm not super concerned about the turnover because he's not going to play point guard the pros or be the #1 option.

My guess is the shooting comes good. He's really skilled and doesn't get many open 3s because he has the ball or defensive attention.

But he'll have to adjust. Olynyk didn't really have to, for instance, and he was a much more efficient offensive player. But he couldn't dribble and pass like Wolf. Wolf is a tough evaluation because in the pros, he's going to be a 3rd or 4th option on O when he's on the court, like Olynyk, and won't be dribbling anywhere near as often.
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Post#255 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:28 am

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Ell Curry wrote:Some really nice drives by Danny Wolf tonight. He's a better shooter in theory (nice form, has a fadeaway that looks nice he's barely used, at 36% from 3 on okay volume last time I checked) than in practice (FTs bad), but he can really attack a closeout after a pick and pop, and he can really pass. If he gets on a team with a star guard and it's a good defence overall, he could really be something as a PF. Feels like he'd murder 4 on 3 situations that Steph or Lillard type create.

Smith on Purdue is the best passer I've seen so far in college ball, but he's tiny and not special athletically. I'm assuming he plays all 4 years in college. Feels like a guy who woulda made it in the 90s, but the game is very hard on small PGs and slow 5s nowadays.

Danny is an NBA player. There’s no way a guy with his skill level doesn’t make it. Able to shoot the 3, tight handle, elite passing all at 7 feet. Sign me up!


musselman thinks he's an nba player. at his dimensions and with some of his strengths he likely is but i'm worried about his turnover problem at his age and i dont factor in any shooting. add him to the plethora of rotation big candidates this year.

He plays a bit too freely but that’s part of what makes him good. I guess it’s a give and take scenario. If I’m the Raps I’d ask Darko if he could use him in the Jokic role. Obviously, he’s not close to the Joker, but even if he becomes baby Sabonis/Sengun I’d be happy.
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Post#256 » by Ell Curry » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:38 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Danny is an NBA player. There’s no way a guy with his skill level doesn’t make it. Able to shoot the 3, tight handle, elite passing all at 7 feet. Sign me up!


musselman thinks he's an nba player. at his dimensions and with some of his strengths he likely is but i'm worried about his turnover problem at his age and i dont factor in any shooting. add him to the plethora of rotation big candidates this year.

He plays a bit too freely but that’s part of what makes him good. I guess it’s a give and take scenario. If I’m the Raps I’d ask Darko if he could use him in the Jokic role. Obviously, he’s not close to the Joker, but even if he becomes baby Sabonis/Sengun I’d be happy.


He's not as strong as those guys. But I could see him at the 5 for some team with big strong wings, so if we win the lotto and get Flagg, a center who can shoot and pass like him makes sense if he falls to the PDX 2nd rounder. Might appeal to some team at the end of the first though, like Boston (love a stretch 5), Clippers (need to juice their offense, 5 out always helps) or OKC (they love skilled guys, need a backup 4 and have tough perimeter guys who stop dribble drives).
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Post#257 » by Psubs » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:46 am

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Danny is an NBA player. There’s no way a guy with his skill level doesn’t make it. Able to shoot the 3, tight handle, elite passing all at 7 feet. Sign me up!


musselman thinks he's an nba player. at his dimensions and with some of his strengths he likely is but i'm worried about his turnover problem at his age and i dont factor in any shooting. add him to the plethora of rotation big candidates this year.

He plays a bit too freely but that’s part of what makes him good. I guess it’s a give and take scenario. If I’m the Raps I’d ask Darko if he could use him in the Jokic role. Obviously, he’s not close to the Joker, but even if he becomes baby Sabonis/Sengun I’d be happy.


I'd rather draft Danny Wolf over Queen if I really had to choose. Wold does have great nimble footwork.

#15 SA (via Atl)
#18 Minn (via Det)
#19 BK
#20 Utah
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This is where I think he'll be drafted.
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Post#258 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:49 am

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musselman thinks he's an nba player. at his dimensions and with some of his strengths he likely is but i'm worried about his turnover problem at his age and i dont factor in any shooting. add him to the plethora of rotation big candidates this year.

He plays a bit too freely but that’s part of what makes him good. I guess it’s a give and take scenario. If I’m the Raps I’d ask Darko if he could use him in the Jokic role. Obviously, he’s not close to the Joker, but even if he becomes baby Sabonis/Sengun I’d be happy.


He's not as strong as those guys. But I could see him at the 5 for some team with big strong wings, so if we win the lotto and get Flagg, a center who can shoot and pass like him makes sense if he falls to the PDX 2nd rounder. Might appeal to some team at the end of the first though, like Boston (love a stretch 5), Clippers (need to juice their offense, 5 out always helps) or OKC (they love skilled guys, need a backup 4 and have tough perimeter guys who stop dribble drives).


He has to play the 5, he's not going to play the 4 in the NBA, or I don't think teams will project that from him. He's going to be able to take any 5 off the dribble tho, so if he can hit the 3 respectively, and play some sort of defense, he'll be a viable backup 5. His shot and defense is what will take him to the next level
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Post#259 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:52 am

Edgecombe fits in seamlessly in this lineup:

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Post#260 » by Psubs » Wed Feb 12, 2025 3:57 am

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:He plays a bit too freely but that’s part of what makes him good. I guess it’s a give and take scenario. If I’m the Raps I’d ask Darko if he could use him in the Jokic role. Obviously, he’s not close to the Joker, but even if he becomes baby Sabonis/Sengun I’d be happy.


He's not as strong as those guys. But I could see him at the 5 for some team with big strong wings, so if we win the lotto and get Flagg, a center who can shoot and pass like him makes sense if he falls to the PDX 2nd rounder. Might appeal to some team at the end of the first though, like Boston (love a stretch 5), Clippers (need to juice their offense, 5 out always helps) or OKC (they love skilled guys, need a backup 4 and have tough perimeter guys who stop dribble drives).


He has to play the 5, he's not going to play the 4 in the NBA, or I don't think teams will project that from him. He's going to be able to take any 5 off the dribble tho, so if he can hit the 3 respectively, and play some sort of defense, he'll be a viable backup 5. His shot and defense is what will take him to the next level


He seems like he could be a quicker Kelly Olynyk.
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