2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 4

[TorontoBarneys]

Draft really falls off after the top 6 IMO.

[Yallbecrazy]

I don't even know who the #5 and 6 guys are you might be referring to.

[wegotthabeet]

I don't even know who the #5 and 6 guys are you might be referring to.

Yeah it’s been top 4 for a minute. Last summer Flagg, Harper, Ace and VJ were already viewed as the top 4. Nothing has changed.

[MessiahUjiri]

I don't even know who the #5 and 6 guys are you might be referring to.

Yeah it’s been top 4 for a minute. Last summer Flagg, Harper, Ace and VJ were already viewed as the top 4. Nothing has changed.

The 5-7 tier is Kasp, Tre, Maluach. Flashing super high talent but with some flaws.

Then there’s another drop off IMO. Need to stay at 6 hopefully, so that we have our choice.

I don’t wanna end up with Kon Knueppel, who is the new Dalton Knecht / Corey Kispert.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I don't even know who the #5 and 6 guys are you might be referring to.

Realgm consensus is the draft is always as deep as Raptors pick -1.

[Indeed]

I don't even know who the #5 and 6 guys are you might be referring to.

Yeah it’s been top 4 for a minute. Last summer Flagg, Harper, Ace and VJ were already viewed as the top 4. Nothing has changed.

The 5-7 tier is Kasp, Tre, Maluach. Flashing super high talent but with some flaws.

Then there’s another drop off IMO. Need to stay at 6 hopefully, so that we have our choice.

I don’t wanna end up with Kon Knueppel, who is the new Dalton Knecht / Corey Kispert.

Disagree.
Maluach is pure potential, very good athleticism, average (or below) skill.
Jakucionis is very good skill, average athleticism.
Both of them dropped due to recent plays

Tre Johnson is the only one with very good skill and athleticism at the next tier.

And the next tier (depends how you value) with Maluach and Jakucionis are
Queen is very good skill, average athleticism (complete opposite of Maluach)
Collin Murray-Boyles is very good athleticism, average skill (include shooting for forward size)
Richardson is very good athleticism, average skill (include passing for point guard size)
Fears is very good skill, average athleticism
Knueppel is very good skill, average (or below) athleticism
McNeeley is very good skill, average (or below) athleticism

[Jerry Lucas]

Pre-March Madness Top 10 Big Board with tier separation (3/18):

1. Cooper Flagg

2. VJ Edgecombe
3. Dylan Harper
4. Kasparas Jakucionis

5. Derik Queen
6. Asa Newell
7. Collin Murray-Boyles

8. Jase Richardson
9. Kon Knueppel

t10. Alex Condon
t10. Thomas Sorber

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[grant101]

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I'll say it again - Queen reminds me of a young Zach Randolph. A load in the paint with quick feet and soft touch. I still think Khaman is the easier fit now and in the future, but I would quickly talk myself into Queen being the right choice if we fall out of the top 6. Would be a blast to cheer for.

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I'll say it again - Queen reminds me of a young Zach Randolph. A load in the paint with quick feet and soft touch. I still think Khaman is the easier fit now and in the future, but I would quickly talk myself into Queen being the right choice if we fall out of the top 6. Would be a blast to cheer for.

except he has a real chance to stroke the 3 at 36-37% eventually and likely has more juice as a passer

khaman will never be an offensive hub

[Naysorn]

Pre-March Madness Top 10 Big Board with tier separation (3/18):

1. Cooper Flagg

2. VJ Edgecombe
3. Dylan Harper
4. Kasparas Jakucionis

5. Derik Queen
6. Asa Newell
7. Collin Murray-Boyles

8. Jase Richardson
9. Kon Knueppel

t10. Alex Condon
t10. Thomas Sorber

Where’s ace Bailey

[grant101]

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I'll say it again - Queen reminds me of a young Zach Randolph. A load in the paint with quick feet and soft touch. I still think Khaman is the easier fit now and in the future, but I would quickly talk myself into Queen being the right choice if we fall out of the top 6. Would be a blast to cheer for.

except he has a real chance to stroke the 3 at 36-37% eventually and likely has more juice as a passer

khaman will never be an offensive hub

Agreed. Ppl comparing Khaman to Embiid are crazy. I was more so talking about his archetype being easier to fit into plus lineups than Queen. I see Khaman as a bigger, longer Clint Capela-type with better touch (though a little less athleticism). He doesn’t take much off the table and will IMO offer legit rim protection and defensive versatility. Queen is a trickier fit, especially on defence.

I’m not holding my breath on either becoming 3pt threats.

[Raptorfan2012]

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I'll say it again - Queen reminds me of a young Zach Randolph. A load in the paint with quick feet and soft touch. I still think Khaman is the easier fit now and in the future, but I would quickly talk myself into Queen being the right choice if we fall out of the top 6. Would be a blast to cheer for.

Pretty sure Queen is at least 1-2 inches taller than Zach Randolph (which matters); he is no doubt a real talent. Question is whether he will fit in with our current team; I still prefer a more 3-D big but Queen is fine in terms of acquiring talent.

[LoveMyRaps]

Draft really falls off after the top 6 IMO.

I've held this opinion all season long but the top 8 can be broken down into two tiers:

Tier 1: Flagg, Harper, Bailey, VJ
Tier 2: Maluach, Traore, Tre, Kasp

But tbh... Kasp has been a bit disappointing as of late so I'm just high on the top 7 at the moment.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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I'll say it again - Queen reminds me of a young Zach Randolph. A load in the paint with quick feet and soft touch. I still think Khaman is the easier fit now and in the future, but I would quickly talk myself into Queen being the right choice if we fall out of the top 6. Would be a blast to cheer for.

Pretty sure Queen is at least 1-2 inches taller than Zach Randolph (which matters); he is no doubt a real talent. Question is whether he will fit in with our current team; I still prefer a more 3-D big but Queen is fine in terms of acquiring talent.

Have you guys seen Scottie try to score recently? He’s not that guy, and when BI comes he can’t take all of the pressure. RJ is decent, but can’t go right which would be a huge issue in the playoffs. And personally I think Quick is best suited off the bench.

A scorer like Queen fits like a glove in my opinion.

[grant101]

I'll say it again - Queen reminds me of a young Zach Randolph. A load in the paint with quick feet and soft touch. I still think Khaman is the easier fit now and in the future, but I would quickly talk myself into Queen being the right choice if we fall out of the top 6. Would be a blast to cheer for.

Pretty sure Queen is at least 1-2 inches taller than Zach Randolph (which matters); he is no doubt a real talent. Question is whether he will fit in with our current team; I still prefer a more 3-D big but Queen is fine in terms of acquiring talent.

Have you guys seen Scottie try to score recently? He’s not that guy, and when BI comes he can’t take all of the pressure. RJ is decent, but can’t go right which would be a huge issue in the playoffs. And personally I think Quick is best suited off the bench.

A scorer like Queen fits like a glove in my opinion.

He would definitely help on offense, no question, but you can’t play him with Poeltl. I think our defence would really suffer if he’s the sole big out there

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Queen has amazing feet for a guy his size.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Pretty sure Queen is at least 1-2 inches taller than Zach Randolph (which matters); he is no doubt a real talent. Question is whether he will fit in with our current team; I still prefer a more 3-D big but Queen is fine in terms of acquiring talent.

Have you guys seen Scottie try to score recently? He’s not that guy, and when BI comes he can’t take all of the pressure. RJ is decent, but can’t go right which would be a huge issue in the playoffs. And personally I think Quick is best suited off the bench.

A scorer like Queen fits like a glove in my opinion.

He would definitely help on offense, no question, but you can’t play him with Poeltl. I think our defence would really suffer if he’s the sole big out there

Why can’t you play him with Poeltl?

[RapsFanInVA]

I don't even know who the #5 and 6 guys are you might be referring to.

Realgm consensus is the draft is always as deep as Raptors pick -1.

Coin Toss Ross instead of Harrison Barnes