2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[Loso04]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

I'm hoping for Carter Bryant

[Jerry Lucas]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

[niQ]

Kon Kneppel has a lot of fans within New Orleans as per no ceilings

I remember a lot of the early mocks had Pelicans taking Kon. I hope so, means others will drop to us.

[niQ]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

Unrelated but something about Queen's movements/drives to the basket remind me a lot of Barnes.

[ciueli]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

[WuTang_CMB]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

yep. They were split down to the final day from what I remember .. so we know at least Queen is definitely a possibility especially if KM is off the board

[niQ]

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[billy_hoyle]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

Exactly how I see it.

Maluach might shoot the 3 tho. I could see Poeltl with perimeter shooting being close to Sabonis value-wise.

I wouldn't be mad at having 2 Poeltls.

[Jerry Lucas]

We're just taking Barlowe reports on our front office leaking as Gospel now? I think Jerry Lucas mentioned that neither produced like Masai draft picks( unsure on Queen), but Queen also is so anti Masai like in his defense (switchability or rim protection)I can't see either one being picked.

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

Except back in 2016, Poeltl produced like a Masai-type, and Sabonis didn't.

[ciueli]

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

Except back in 2016, Poeltl produced like a Masai-type, and Sabonis didn't.

I don't know what you're talking about, their numbers coming out of college were really similar per minute. Main differences were Jak as the better shot blocker, Sabonis the better rebounder. I was definitely on the side of taking Jak back then, I wasn't convinced Sabonis would be able to translate his production with T-Rex arms in spite of the view that Sabonis was better in their head-to-head matchup.

[Raptors Realtor]

Queen produced like a Masai-type and Maluach didn't.

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

Except back in 2016, Poeltl produced like a Masai-type, and Sabonis didn't.

I remember a lot of people had qualms leading up to the draft with Sabonis' "T-Rex arms".

[WuTang_CMB]

Queen also has a decent 9'1.50" standing reach
Sabonis was 8'10"

[ciueli]

My view is it's like 2016 when Masai chose Jakob Poeltl over Domantas Sabonis. There was a lot of debate on here which one would be the better pro and Masai focused on size and physicals over skill as he always does. In this draft, Maluach is the Poeltl type and Queen is the Sabonis type.

Except back in 2016, Poeltl produced like a Masai-type, and Sabonis didn't.

I remember a lot of people had qualms leading up to the draft with Sabonis' "T-Rex arms".

To be fair, it's definitely hindered his ability to play defence to some degree, he's not a shot blocker or steals guy, he's just been so good at the rebounding, passing, and high efficiency scoring that it hasn't prevented him from becoming an All-Star level player. Strangely even though it's been almost a decade since he was drafted there is still a lot of debate around whether he's a winning player or not for those reasons.

[RapsFanInOhio]

Who do you like better between KM or Queen?

What do you think the team will do if KM or Queen are on the board?

I have KM slightly higher than Queen, but it’s pretty close. I worry about both of them maxing out at a bench big level because of their limitations, but I think KM’s shooting ends up developing, and that’s the differentiator for me. KM has the defensive footwork and the FT shooting where you may never have to take him off the floor. I’m certain that Queen is going to be impactful offensively but he doesn’t feel like a long term center to me, so he has to be extra good offensively and I don’t like banking on that. Queen kinda feels like Julius Randle to me - a good player, but is he a winning player kind of thing.

I have said since maybe January that I’m certain we would take Maluach over everyone except Flagg and probably Harper. I think he’s like 3 or 4 on our board. Probably not completely based on talent, but a blend of talent, upside, roster fit, and Masai’s likely knowledge of him and his family. So if he’s there at 9, he’s the guy.

[RapsFanInOhio]

Tools-wise, you basically have a pretty good floor with Maluach - he’s going to defend, he can move his feet, and he shoots FTs well enough that he’s never going to be an offensive liability. But there’s also upside there that he probably didn’t get as much of a chance to show at Duke because of Flagg and Knueppel. If the shooting plays, you’ve got a better shooting Poeltl and that’s a heck of a player.

I wonder if Maluach had gone somewhere where he was asked to do more offensively (other than being a lob guy) if he would be viewed higher.

[earthtone]

Read on Twitter

Love Kyle Mann’s stuff, his video content is elite in the draft space imo

The defensive tape is why I wouldn’t be shocked if we end up drafting CMB. There’s been a stronger focus on shooting these past couple drafts, but CMB is such a perfect fit for the classic Raptors profile.

Its hard to overlook that productivity and defensive IQ

[earthtone]

Tools-wise, you basically have a pretty good floor with Maluach - he’s going to defend, he can move his feet, and he shoots FTs well enough that he’s never going to be an offensive liability. But there’s also upside there that he probably didn’t get as much of a chance to show at Duke because of Flagg and Knueppel. If the shooting plays, you’ve got a better shooting Poeltl and that’s a heck of a player.

I wonder if Maluach had gone somewhere where he was asked to do more offensively (other than being a lob guy) if he would be viewed higher.

Yah, I don’t see Maluach as the super raw, boom/bust type, he’s much more a high floor & high ceiling guy.

He showed enough flashes of a face up game and developing three point stroke in the BAL that he was the #4 prospect in his recruiting class.

Then he went to Duke, was asked to play a much more limited role where he didn’t get to showcase/develop any of those skills, but proved he could be incredibly effective as a rim finisher & deterrent on one of the best NCAA teams in the country.

I feel like it’s a bit of a double-edged sword because if he went somewhere where he got to explore his offensive game more, there’d probably be more questions about his ability to play a role in the league. But he did it at Duke and he’s still being doubted, so who knows

[Pointgod]

zach harper , not intel
would love for Fears though

Zach Harper

There aren’t many things I love in June more than a mock draft. I enjoy learning about prospects before the NBA Draft Lottery determines the order, but once we know that order and start moving toward that first announcement that a team is on the clock, I start poring over everything Sam Vecenie and John Hollinger are putting out there with a fine-tooth comb.

One thing is often missing from their analysis, though: Chaos.


Remember draft night in 2013? We were wondering if Victor Oladipo or Nerlens Noel would be the top pick, then David Stern shocked the world by announcing the Cleveland Cavaliers were selecting Anthony Bennett with the No. 1 pick. We rarely get that level of mayhem in the NBA Draft, but we do get quite a few surprises.


I wanted to join in on the mock draft madness by throwing some potential chaos into the mix, while sharing some thoughts on team situations and prospects throughout. I want the havoc to be somewhat believable, though, so you won’t see something like VJ Edgecombe or Kon Knueppel going No. 1 overall.



1. Dallas Mavericks
Cooper Flagg | 6-8 forward | 18 years old | Duke
Of course, it’s Flagg! He was always going to be the No. 1 pick, and not even Nico Harrison would pick anybody except him with the top selection, especially after the year Harrison has endured (self-inflicted, of course). Flagg is clearly the top prospect in this draft and the most ready to play. He’ll fit in right away on defense, as I think he’ll be able to defend multiple positions. But I think he’s going to be in a logjam with the rest of the Mavs’ frontcourt. Dereck Lively II, Anthony Davis, Daniel Gafford, P.J. Washington and Flagg? Not to mention Naji Marshall, whose best position is small forward. That’s a great frontcourt, but you’re asking Flagg to play out of position for now.



2. San Antonio Spurs
Dylan Harper | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Rutgers
Maybe you could talk yourself into Ace Bailey here for a little chaos, but Harper is the definite second pick. He has to go here, even with Stephon Castle and De’Aaron Fox already on the roster. The Spurs grab the best player available and figure it out later. The easy part of drafting Harper here is that he’s a big guard. You can play him next to Castle and Fox to give you a really dynamic playmaking trio on the perimeter, and with Victor Wembanyama backing them up, they can be very aggressive defensively.


We have a trade to announce: The Dallas Mavericks are trading the draft rights to Cooper Flagg, P.J. Washington and Caleb Martin to the San Antonio Spurs in exchange for the draft rights to Dylan Harper, the No. 14 pick in this draft, the Spurs’ 2026 first-round pick, a lottery protected 2028 first-round pick and Keldon Johnson. Film noir! That’s right. Harrison couldn’t help himself, and after getting skewered for not getting enough for Luka Dončić, he’s getting a lot of draft capital in return in this deal. Let’s break down why the trade would happen for both teams:
The Spurs pair Flagg and Wemby together while still having Castle and Fox as a playmaking, dynamic backcourt. That’s an incredible barbershop quartet on both ends of the floor. It needs a little more shooting, but all four guys can eventually become good enough shooters, and they have guys on the roster to fill it out. Defensively, Flagg and Wemby together could be truly devastating. I’d say Flagg projects as a Shawn Marion-esque difference-maker on that end. He’s active, athletic and has great instincts on the ball. With a rim protector like Wemby behind him, it would allow him to be even more aggressive.


You may be asking yourself, “Why would the Mavericks actually do this?” But what part of any Harrison trade would actually shock you at this point? I went from completely trusting him as an executive to thinking that anything good or bad is possible with his decision-making. Grabbing Harper as the guard of the future and someone who can learn from Kyrie Irving is massive. It also helps them in the interim as Irving works his way back from the ACL tear and puts less pressure on him to get back quickly.


3. Philadelphia 76ers
Khaman Maluach | 7-1 big | 19 years old | Duke
A couple of reasons for this pick could, in theory, make sense, even as outlandish as it appears to be. Yes, Maluach is a center, and Joel Embiid is a center, and you’re not going to employ two franchise centers at the same time. That is, if you believe Maluach has the potential to become a franchise center. But we know Embiid is 31, his body simply doesn’t hold up, and the Sixers have to start wondering how much longer they can afford to roll with this process. Bringing in Maluach gives some clarity on what that succession plan looks like, and hopefully, he learns heavily from Embiid on a daily basis.

4. Charlotte Hornets
Tre Johnson | 6-5 wing | 19 years old | Texas
Maybe VJ Edgecombe can’t fall past the top four, but I kind of like the idea of just going with a super scorer here. Johnson is a guy who could possibly end up averaging 25 points per game in a season someday. He can shoot the ball, he doesn’t turn it over, and he really gets those shots up. He might be a perfect complement on offense to LaMelo Ball and Brandon Miller, if they can stay healthy. This Hornets team has yet to show it can be competent, so at least be fun. Offense is fun.

5. Utah Jazz
Kon Knueppel | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Duke
Yes, I know what I’m doing here. Yes, you know what I’m doing here. No, I don’t feel bad going for the low-hanging fruit. With that said, I’m not big on Knueppel, despite his skill set. He can really shoot, and he’s a good passer. But when I’ve watched him, it feels like he plays a lot smaller than his size. Maybe that changes at the NBA level, where he has to play up to his height, if not bigger. His wingspan won’t help, but maybe he’s a better version of Luke Kennard.

6. Washington Wizards
VJ Edgecombe | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | Baylor
Edgecombe falls to the Wizards here, and it could be a lot of fun. They still don’t have the guy to build around in this scenario. Maybe if Johnson falls there, you could talk yourself into him as a scorer. But now you’re talking about a young core of Alex Sarr, Bub Carrington, Bilal Coulibaly, Kyshawn George and Edgecombe. If you can’t sell fans on tapping in to watching them develop on the court, you simply can’t sell. Edgecombe is a ridiculous athlete; he can shoot the ball, and he’s a solid playmaker.

7. New Orleans Pelicans
Derik Queen | 6-9 big | 20 years old | Maryland
Joe Dumars has taken over the Pelicans. There is an undersized big man — who might not be able to stretch the floor at the NBA level — with a lot of skill to entice you. Ideally, you’d play him next to a proper center and watch them grow together. Instead, it looks like the Pelicans would be playing him next to Zion Williamson for now. I can’t think of a more Dumars way for him to put his stamp on the start of this era. Queen is good. He just wouldn’t be the fit I’m looking for here.

8. Brooklyn Nets
Asa Newell | 6-9 forward | 19 years old | Georgia
The Nets need some potential stars, and they miss out a bit here by landing at No. 8. While some may assume Jeremiah Fears could be the guy for them because of his lead guard and scoring abilities, they should swing for the fences with Newell. Maybe he’s still available at No. 19 when they pick again (they have four picks in the first round), but I’d gamble here. He has the potential to defend, and he’s high energy. He’s a bit of a development project, but there’s a lot to mine.

9. Toronto Raptors
Jeremiah Fears | 6-3 guard | 18 years old | Oklahoma
I love this pick for a few reasons. 1) You could maybe see it moved in a play for Giannis Antetokounmpo if Masai Ujiri were so bold. 2) It could also make him the lead guard of the future if Immanuel Quickley is part of the package moved in a potential Giannis deal. 3) I think it’s good to have Fears to push Quickley in general. Yes, Quickley has a massive contract, but he’s also a bit injury-prone, and I think it’s good to have a young player to spark some competition with more established veterans. You can also play them together against smaller lineups. Fears is a tremendous scorer and weapon.

10. Houston Rockets (via Phoenix)
Kasparas Jakučionis | 6-5 lead guard | 19 years old | Illinois
I’ll fully admit I was not a Reed Sheppard guy at Kentucky and didn’t understand the hype of him being a third pick in last year’s draft. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong about that, and he will find a way to make an impact. This Rockets team could use his shooting. I’ll keep that string going here by choosing another guard I’m not sold on. Jakučionis is a big lead guard with a lot of skills, but he could really struggle to get separation to show those skills in the NBA.

Kasparas Jakučionis drives to the basket against Tennessee Volunteers guard Chaz Lanier. (Ron Johnson / Imagn Images)
11. Portland Trail Blazers
Joan Beringer | 6-10 big | 19 years old | Cedevita
It is a bit of a stretch to take Beringer this high, but I think he’s a perfect fit for what the Blazers could need. We’ve seen Chauncey Billups get through to this group defensively, and Portland had success on that end of the floor throughout the second half of the season. Beringer has a 7-foot-3 wingspan, he’s super athletic and has great hands around the basket on both ends. He’d be a good change of pace to throw in the mix with Donovan Clingan, and I’d love to see him work with Scoot Henderson in the pick-and-roll.

12. Chicago Bulls
Ace Bailey | 6-8 wing | 18 years old | Rutgers
You were probably wondering whether I forgot about Bailey. Absolutely not! There are some draft nights in which a player falls for odd reasons, and it invites some very intriguing chaos. We saw it with Cam Whitmore falling to the Rockets at No. 20 in 2023. I’m wondering if Bailey measuring at 6-7 1/2 without shoes after everybody thought he was 6-10 at Rutgers is going to impact his draft stock. It very well could. Enough to fall all the way down here? That seems dramatic, but I could see him taking a bit of a dive if a team like the Sixers isn’t sold on him helping it win now, or if Charlotte or Washington believe he doesn’t fit with their wings. He projects now as a wing rather than a 6-10 scoring forward. It doesn’t sound like a huge difference, but it could be.

13. Atlanta Hawks (via Sacramento)
Carter Bryant | 6-7 wing | 19 years old | Arizona
One of the bigger mysteries in this draft is Bryant, whom I’ve heard plenty of people be torn on. Some think he could be one of the gems of the late lottery. Some think his NBA future is entirely dependent on where he ends up for his development. He might be able to shoot at the NBA level. He might be able to playmake. Regardless, he should be good at defending. This feels like a Hawks player for Quin Snyder and his group to work on.

14. San Antonio Spurs (via Atlanta)
Noa Essengue | 6-9 forward | 18 years old | Ratiopharm Ulm
Essengue doesn’t have a great wingspan (6-11), but he’s still a forward with good size and the potential to stretch the floor. Remember, in this scenario, the pick is headed to Dallas as part of the Cooper Flagg trade. Maybe you forgot about it as you scrolled down, and this just made you mad all over again. I understand, but such is life. Essengue is a project, and Dallas could really benefit from him down the road if he develops.
15. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Miami)

Collin Murray-Boyles | 6-7 wing | 20 years old | South Carolina
The rich just keep getting richer. Murray-Boyles projects as a potential top-10 pick, but in this mock, he’s falling to OKC. He’s the perfect guy for the Thunder to develop. Murray-Boyles is a dynamite defender, and we know the Thunder don’t really have guys who can’t excel on that end of the floor. He’s a good playmaker and a fantastic rebounder. I would imagine the Thunder’s magic development will get him an outside shot, and we’ll continue to wonder how they keep stockpiling these players.

lol if Morey selects Khaman at 3 then he should get fired lol

[Dalek]

Beringer over Malauch for me. I think the atl trade down and we take Beringer at 13 and Flemming or Traore or someone that slips at 20ish the second atl pick

I have said this for a while now. They are both inexperienced to a similar degree, but for me when I watch KM he looks like he can't start/stop in an efficient way. High effort but less control. Beringer is a much more like Derek Lively/Jarrett Allen being really nimble on his feet. I think KM ends up more of a drop big, whereas Beringer you can see he can slide his feet and be a switch big.

[WuTang_CMB]

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