Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis

[WiggOuts]

this just a talking point and nothing more...the Raptors are mentioned in EVERY rumor about stars being traded without fail. Our FO has a great reputation of talent identification and mentioning us probably gets other GMs intrigued...AD is going to need an extension and turning 33, this isnt a Kawhi situation as the upside just isnt there. I really dont think he gets some massive extension either, any team would be stupid to do that.

[Jerry Lucas]

CMB is far from untouchable lol

If we did bring in AD, I would say we almost should just double down and move out CMB anyways as he is kind of useless off the bench cause he cant play in a lineup with Barnes and AD. Would rather move him to upgrade our 2 spot if RJ + Ochai went out.

You're potentially getting AD for one additional year after this season. Do you trade your prized prospect for an extremely injury prone that could opt out and become a free agent next summer?

I mean "prized" is a little extreme.

IF you go after AD, you are going full win-now. You don't clutch onto 9th overall picks who plays the same position as Barnes, when you would have a gaping hole at the 2

I mean, there's a pretty good chance this discussion is irrelevant, considering ESPN doesn't even expect that we would have to give up Gradey or Ja'Kobe, never mind CMB who is the most valuable asset of the 3.

[LoveMyRaps]

You're potentially getting AD for one additional year after this season. Do you trade your prized prospect for an extremely injury prone that could opt out and become a free agent next summer?

I mean "prized" is a little extreme.

IF you go after AD, you are going full win-now. You don't clutch onto 9th overall picks who plays the same position as Barnes, when you would have a gaping hole at the 2

I mean, there's a pretty good chance this discussion is irrelevant, considering ESPN doesn't even expect that we would have to give up Gradey or Ja'Kobe, never mind CMB who is the most valuable asset of the 3.

Feel like some folks here are overvaluing/overrating AD.

There is a reason only a limited number of teams are interested in his services. He's a very massive gamble.

[LoveMyRaps]

Report came out today that Timberwolves desperately need a point guard ASAP and inquired about Coby White's availability.

For fun I decided to put this proposal together...



Gives us a 3 year window to contend...


Shead
Ingram
Barnes
Davis
Gobert


Quickley
Edwards
McDaniels
Randle
Reid

[ForeverTFC]

Report came out today that Timberwolves desperately need a point guard ASAP and inquired about Coby White's availability.

For fun I decided to put this proposal together...



Gives us a 3 year window to contend...


Shead
Ingram
Barnes
Davis
Gobert


Quickley
Edwards
McDaniels
Randle
Reid

Can’t wait to see us go 2/7 as a team from 3 every game.

[YogurtProducer]

I mean "prized" is a little extreme.

IF you go after AD, you are going full win-now. You don't clutch onto 9th overall picks who plays the same position as Barnes, when you would have a gaping hole at the 2

I mean, there's a pretty good chance this discussion is irrelevant, considering ESPN doesn't even expect that we would have to give up Gradey or Ja'Kobe, never mind CMB who is the most valuable asset of the 3.

Feel like some folks here are overvaluing/overrating AD.

There is a reason only a limited number of teams are interested in his services. He's a very massive gamble.

I agree. But in all honestly, if we have to give up CMB or future picks, I likely choose CMB as I would prefer to keep future flexibility and maybe you can steal back a Max Christie to play the 2

[Badonkadonk]

I'd prefer Gafford. At least he'll play and won't mortgage the future. Raps aren't winning a 'chip this year. Give me a functional and underrated big that'll make the team resemble how it did earlier in the season.

If not Gafford, the team should 100% prioritize a D-first 5 (ideally one that's broken down or mid 30s). Not only is it the best fit for the roster, but O is valued way more than D in the market and won't cost as big a haul.

[YogurtProducer]

The only deal I have put together that seems reasonable or somewhat possible is

Davis / Christie / Powell
for
Poeltl / Barrett / Agbaji / CMB / Temple

[YogurtProducer]

I'd prefer Gafford. At least he'll play and won't mortgage the future. Raps aren't winning a 'chip this year. Give me a functional and underrated big that'll make the team resemble how it did earlier in the season.

If not Gafford, the team should 100% prioritize a D-first 5 (ideally one that's broken down or mid 30s). Not only is it the best fit for the roster, but O is valued way more than D in the market and won't cost as big a haul.

Only way to get Gafford is Dick/Ochai/Mogbo

So pretty much just Dick cause Ochai is gone this off-season anyways really.

[Badonkadonk]

I'd prefer Gafford. At least he'll play and won't mortgage the future. Raps aren't winning a 'chip this year. Give me a functional and underrated big that'll make the team resemble how it did earlier in the season.

If not Gafford, the team should 100% prioritize a D-first 5 (ideally one that's broken down or mid 30s). Not only is it the best fit for the roster, but O is valued way more than D in the market and won't cost as big a haul.

Only way to get Gafford is Dick/Ochai/Mogbo

So pretty much just Dick cause Ochai is gone this off-season anyways really.

That's fine, the team needs to clear out its glut of young 2s and 3s anyway, so some kind of consolidation trade is coming. Just a matter of whether big or small. Good Centers are hard to find. Good ones that can stay healthy even harder.

[PushDaRock]

Report came out today that Timberwolves desperately need a point guard ASAP and inquired about Coby White's availability.

For fun I decided to put this proposal together...



Gives us a 3 year window to contend...


Shead
Ingram
Barnes
Davis
Gobert


Quickley
Edwards
McDaniels
Randle
Reid

lmao that would no question be the worst shooting team in the league

[Jerry Lucas]

I mean, there's a pretty good chance this discussion is irrelevant, considering ESPN doesn't even expect that we would have to give up Gradey or Ja'Kobe, never mind CMB who is the most valuable asset of the 3.

Feel like some folks here are overvaluing/overrating AD.

There is a reason only a limited number of teams are interested in his services. He's a very massive gamble.

I agree. But in all honestly, if we have to give up CMB or future picks, I likely choose CMB as I would prefer to keep future flexibility and maybe you can steal back a Max Christie to play the 2

I can almost guarantee you Bobby disagrees with you and would rather trade the Raptors 2026 FRP than CMB.

Dumars called the teams picking 9-12 before making that trade with Atlanta, so if Bobby didn't want to trade CMB for an unprotected Pels 2026 FRP, there's absolutely no way he'd rather give up CMB than the Raptors 2026 FRP considering the Raptors almost certainly internally projected themselves to be better than the Pels this season (and therefore projected their own 2026 FRP to be worse).

And how exactly would giving up CMB instead of the 2026 FRP cause the Mavs to just toss in Max Christie? CMB isn't that much more valuable than the Raptors 2026 FRP, that the Mavs would then include Christie in the trade.

[brownbobcat]

That's fine, the team needs to clear out its glut of young 2s and 3s anyway, so some kind of consolidation trade is coming. Just a matter of whether big or small. Good Centers are hard to find. Good ones that can stay healthy even harder.

It's not a glut if they're not that good in the first place. This team simply doesn't have the depth of assets to consolidate.

[HumbleRen]

Feel like some folks here are overvaluing/overrating AD.

There is a reason only a limited number of teams are interested in his services. He's a very massive gamble.

I agree. But in all honestly, if we have to give up CMB or future picks, I likely choose CMB as I would prefer to keep future flexibility and maybe you can steal back a Max Christie to play the 2

I can almost guarantee you Bobby disagrees with you and would rather trade the Raptors 2026 FRP than CMB.

Dumars called the teams picking 9-12 before making that trade with Atlanta, so if Bobby didn't want to trade CMB for an unprotected Pels 2026 FRP, there's absolutely no way he'd rather give up CMB than the Raptors 2026 FRP considering the Raptors almost certainly internally projected themselves to be better than the Pels this season (and therefore projected their own 2026 FRP to be worse).

And how exactly would giving up CMB instead of the 2026 FRP cause the Mavs to just toss in Max Christie? CMB isn't that much more valuable than the Raptors 2026 FRP, that the Mavs would then include Christie in the trade.

Counter point, we know the FO tried their hardest to trade the 9th pick on draft day. Bobby isn't interested in picks, he wants win now players.

[Jerry Lucas]

I agree. But in all honestly, if we have to give up CMB or future picks, I likely choose CMB as I would prefer to keep future flexibility and maybe you can steal back a Max Christie to play the 2

I can almost guarantee you Bobby disagrees with you and would rather trade the Raptors 2026 FRP than CMB.

Dumars called the teams picking 9-12 before making that trade with Atlanta, so if Bobby didn't want to trade CMB for an unprotected Pels 2026 FRP, there's absolutely no way he'd rather give up CMB than the Raptors 2026 FRP considering the Raptors almost certainly internally projected themselves to be better than the Pels this season (and therefore projected their own 2026 FRP to be worse).

And how exactly would giving up CMB instead of the 2026 FRP cause the Mavs to just toss in Max Christie? CMB isn't that much more valuable than the Raptors 2026 FRP, that the Mavs would then include Christie in the trade.

Counter point, we know the FO tried their hardest to trade the 9th pick on draft day. Bobby isn't interested in picks, he wants win now players.

Counter point to your counter point, wouldn't CMB clearly more of a win now piece to Bobby, than the Raptors 2026 FRP that hasn't even been drafted yet?

Unless you agree with Yogurt that giving them CMB instead of the 2026 FRP should make them also include Max Christie going back.

[bballsparkin]

The only deal I have put together that seems reasonable or somewhat possible is

Davis / Christie / Powell
for
Poeltl / Barrett / Agbaji / CMB / Temple

I think JL is right. If they aren't trading CMB for that NOPs 2026 pick why would they for AD? And since AD has been unhealthy and out of shape this season I'd rather not trade the 2026 FRP either.

AD for JP, RJ, Ochai and a top 4 protected pick in 2027 is about the most I'd want to give up for AD.\

edit: add in JKW or Gradey if that's what they prefer. Mogbo too.

[HumbleRen]

I can almost guarantee you Bobby disagrees with you and would rather trade the Raptors 2026 FRP than CMB.

Dumars called the teams picking 9-12 before making that trade with Atlanta, so if Bobby didn't want to trade CMB for an unprotected Pels 2026 FRP, there's absolutely no way he'd rather give up CMB than the Raptors 2026 FRP considering the Raptors almost certainly internally projected themselves to be better than the Pels this season (and therefore projected their own 2026 FRP to be worse).

And how exactly would giving up CMB instead of the 2026 FRP cause the Mavs to just toss in Max Christie? CMB isn't that much more valuable than the Raptors 2026 FRP, that the Mavs would then include Christie in the trade.

Counter point, we know the FO tried their hardest to trade the 9th pick on draft day. Bobby isn't interested in picks, he wants win now players.

Counter point to your counter point, wouldn't CMB clearly more of a win now piece to Bobby, than the Raptors 2026 FRP that hasn't even been drafted yet?

Unless you agree with Yogurt that giving them CMB instead of the 2026 FRP should make them also include Max Christie going back.

Yes I do.

[brownbobcat]

Counter point, we know the FO tried their hardest to trade the 9th pick on draft day. Bobby isn't interested in picks, he wants win now players.

It is so short-sighted. This team only tanked for 2 years (2023-24 doesn't count because they traded that pick) and somehow thinks they're ready to go all in.

[Jerry Lucas]

Counter point, we know the FO tried their hardest to trade the 9th pick on draft day. Bobby isn't interested in picks, he wants win now players.

Counter point to your counter point, wouldn't CMB clearly more of a win now piece to Bobby, than the Raptors 2026 FRP that hasn't even been drafted yet?

Unless you agree with Yogurt that giving them CMB instead of the 2026 FRP should make them also include Max Christie going back.

Yes I do.

For some reason I just can't see the Mavs wanting to give up Christie just because the Raptors are giving them CMB instead of the 2026 FRP in an AD trade.

[HumbleRen]

Counter point, we know the FO tried their hardest to trade the 9th pick on draft day. Bobby isn't interested in picks, he wants win now players.

It is so short-sighted. This team only tanked for 2 years (2023-24 doesn't count because they traded that pick) and somehow thinks they're ready to go all in.

It's an expensive roster so I get it from their POV. If you can get Derrick White beside IQ, BI and Scottie. You do it if you don't plan to rebuild.