Buff wrote:It means you can get 10 rebounds and 10 assists on any given day.
Yes, I know what it means, Buff.
You have to go back to Pippen and maybe KG, who peaked at 5 APG. That is way more rare than an alpha scorer, for sure.
I suspect that's more of an era thing than anything else. You saw more rigid archetypes in earlier decades. I suspect we'll see more guys who can pass in this era of larger guys handling more and then with DHO sets and what have you compared to the way things ran in earlier eras. And it's worth remembering that you've ignored both Wilt and Russell, and in general anyone before 1983 when the award was implemented. Billy Cunningham, Kareem, Walton, etc.
But even beyond that, is that archetype truly more valuable? With Scottie, he's less a creator of advantage and more the guy who makes a secondary action after the advantage has been created. He's got more in common with someone like Jalen Johnson as a playmaker than a guy like KG or Pippen in this respect. And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's worth recognizing when we're authoring player comparisons, especially since we're in an up year for raw AST100 on a team level.
More over, we still need that offensive player archetype anyway. That's an inescapable need, whereas you can author a high-end defense without a player like Scottie. Of course, we have Scottie and not another guy, so that's great, but in terms of utility, one is a definite requirement for a title and the other is not. That does change the tone of which is more valuable, even if ultimately you're correct about the frequency.
Sell him to whom? His value has always been obvious to me.
Other people, generally speaking, since we're on a discussion forum.
Pierce, KG, Perk.... they must've had some GREAT times in Toronto