General NBA Discussion Thread

[Boogie!]

But, but a team should always draft for need...Oh wait...Ross was/is a shooting guard and we had one already. Well...I'm sure he had his reasons. Maybe he thought Drummond was too big to play basketball? I mean Wilt,Shaq, Dwight... Big and athletic centers are usually a bust...Maybe not...Give me a minute and i'll think of something...
No I got nothing. It was a horrible pick then and it's still a horrible pick now.

omg man... this is the corniest **** ive ever heard.

he didnt pick drummond because of questions about his work ethic and passion. pretty **** simple. there have been plenty of instances where athletic players with a lot of talent never amount to nothing... according to colangelo (and 6 other gms) he didnt have what it takes mentally... the talent was always there... no one denied that... andre drummond was top 5 in mocks for a while before the college season started... look at anthony bennett for example... that guy hasnt been a bust strictly because of a lack of talent... gms make mistakes but theyre not all actually stupid. theres reasons for certain decisions and they might not always be the right ones but theres actually a logical train of thought behind them...

And your explanation is just ****. He had top 5 talent and we took a guy who should have gone in the middle of the first round. Drummond was an absolute freak athlete comparable to Howard. You take that over a shooting guard with short arms who was mediocre any day of the week. Should a gm always take elite athleticism? Only if it truly is elite, which is rare. There won't be another center with Drummond's physical tools for 5-10 years.
Cheers.

andre drummond has more talent than every single pick in the top 8 other than anthony davis and maybe lillard... this was pretty obvious... his combination of size, athleticism and skills has always been elite... every gm understood this... at the end of the day, there were reasons why so many teams passed him up... its easy for fans who play nba2k to say that he was a no brainer pick at the time... when youre actually getting paid and your career is determined based on the types of players you draft, you do more than just look at superficial traits... they have whole scouting teams dedicated to this ****... at the end of the day, its not an exact science but theres more to it than your simpleton explanation of how a player should be drafted. pretty stupid on your part to declare my explanation as "****" when its actually a rational explanation of the thought process behind the pick or lack thereof, despite me not having any credentials to ever gm a team...

[Boogie!]

was just watching the golden state highlights... curry is just unbelievable man... theres no way you can stop those big 3s he makes at the end... i mean theyre not even good shots, he gets a screen then just chucks them up from 30 feet... unfair man... hes just too good... cant play defense on that ****.

[perempe20]

Raptors win in OKC? can't believe it.

[dante9988]

There's a good chance we might win in orlando as well, vucevic is out for a bit with a sprained knee. Still no word on gerald green for miami? He's pretty much there bench scoring so with him out, thats very winnable as well.

[ash_k]

Portland might not drop off as much as one would have thought after losing 4 starters! though I dont think they will make the playoffs..that Lillard/McCollum backcourt could become the second best in the West then that frontline with Aminu and Plumlee..a good young nucleus

[Undefeated]

I've said this before but the Warriors do a really good job of using their shooters (Curry and Klay) as screeners to free up their bigs for mid-range jumpers in early offense. Defense can't help off of them because they'll relocate to the corner and it's a pass back for an open corner 3. The big defender won't leave their natural habitat in the paint to cover a guard out at the 3-point line making this play so dangerous when they have bigs that can shoot:



It's something I think the Raptors can experiment with Scola when he's playing with Lowry, Carroll, and Ross.

[Fairview4Life]

Seth Partnow stats on bench scoring, particularly focused on full line changes, staggering, and timing.

Raps numbers look pretty good so far. Seems like a mix of good Casey subs, combined with a good bench.

[Mikistan]

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[CoachJReturns]

omg man... this is the corniest **** ive ever heard.

he didnt pick drummond because of questions about his work ethic and passion. pretty **** simple. there have been plenty of instances where athletic players with a lot of talent never amount to nothing... according to colangelo (and 6 other gms) he didnt have what it takes mentally... the talent was always there... no one denied that... andre drummond was top 5 in mocks for a while before the college season started... look at anthony bennett for example... that guy hasnt been a bust strictly because of a lack of talent... gms make mistakes but theyre not all actually stupid. theres reasons for certain decisions and they might not always be the right ones but theres actually a logical train of thought behind them...

And your explanation is just ****. He had top 5 talent and we took a guy who should have gone in the middle of the first round. Drummond was an absolute freak athlete comparable to Howard. You take that over a shooting guard with short arms who was mediocre any day of the week. Should a gm always take elite athleticism? Only if it truly is elite, which is rare. There won't be another center with Drummond's physical tools for 5-10 years.
Cheers.

andre drummond has more talent than every single pick in the top 8 other than anthony davis and maybe lillard... this was pretty obvious... his combination of size, athleticism and skills has always been elite... every gm understood this... at the end of the day, there were reasons why so many teams passed him up... its easy for fans who play nba2k to say that he was a no brainer pick at the time... when youre actually getting paid and your career is determined based on the types of players you draft, you do more than just look at superficial traits... they have whole scouting teams dedicated to this ****... at the end of the day, its not an exact science but theres more to it than your simpleton explanation of how a player should be drafted. pretty stupid on your part to declare my explanation as "****" when its actually a rational explanation of the thought process behind the pick or lack thereof, despite me not having any credentials to ever gm a team...

Did you expect a polite reponse after saying my post was corny ****? Lol. You're an idiot buddy. Insulting someone else's post always yields the same result. And yes Drummond was a no brainer at our pick. He was promised by the Pistons they would take him if he was available. I doubt they were the only team that would have taken him at that point. The other highly rated guys were all off the board. He was the last.

[thiva101]

TSN is playing minny vs miami over OKC vs Bulls?

[Inevitable]

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[Boogie!]

And your explanation is just ****. He had top 5 talent and we took a guy who should have gone in the middle of the first round. Drummond was an absolute freak athlete comparable to Howard. You take that over a shooting guard with short arms who was mediocre any day of the week. Should a gm always take elite athleticism? Only if it truly is elite, which is rare. There won't be another center with Drummond's physical tools for 5-10 years.
Cheers.

andre drummond has more talent than every single pick in the top 8 other than anthony davis and maybe lillard... this was pretty obvious... his combination of size, athleticism and skills has always been elite... every gm understood this... at the end of the day, there were reasons why so many teams passed him up... its easy for fans who play nba2k to say that he was a no brainer pick at the time... when youre actually getting paid and your career is determined based on the types of players you draft, you do more than just look at superficial traits... they have whole scouting teams dedicated to this ****... at the end of the day, its not an exact science but theres more to it than your simpleton explanation of how a player should be drafted. pretty stupid on your part to declare my explanation as "****" when its actually a rational explanation of the thought process behind the pick or lack thereof, despite me not having any credentials to ever gm a team...

Did you expect a polite reponse after saying my post was corny ****? Lol. You're an idiot buddy. Insulting someone else's post always yields the same result. And yes Drummond was a no brainer at our pick. He was promised by the Pistons they would take him if he was available. I doubt they were the only team that would have taken him at that point. The other highly rated guys were all off the board. He was the last.

im an idiot and yet 7 other gms used the same logic. right. lemme know when you get your gm job and use your flawless logic to always make the right pick.

[Alasen]

Anyone watching the OKC vs Bulls game? Pretty fun so far. Hoping the Bulls play Westbrick like the punk that he is. Wonder how many flops he will make tonight.

[Alasen]

My god. Did anyone see that Rose injury graphic? Dude is literally made of glass

[Boogie!]

Seth Partnow stats on bench scoring, particularly focused on full line changes, staggering, and timing.

Raps numbers look pretty good so far. Seems like a mix of good Casey subs, combined with a good bench.

i like seeing demar as the lone starter out there with the bench, (cojo, demar, ross, patterson, biyombo) i think thats a great fit for him... and i like seeing the, lowry, ross/cojo, carroll, scola, val, lineup, i also think those are good fits...

[Alasen]

Damn OKC choking hard. Up 17-8 in the first 5 minutes. Now down 42-34. Wow!

[Boogie!]

ive always thought rose was overrated tbh...

[Bankai]

ive always thought rose was overrated tbh...

I thought he looked amazing back in the day crossing people with ease. Now Curry does the same thing but also with deadly 3 point shooting. These days Rose and Deron Williams are fighting over who is the more washed up former star.

[Boogie!]

ive always thought rose was overrated tbh...

I thought he looked amazing back in the day crossing people with ease. Now Curry does the same thing but also with deadly 3 point shooting. These days Rose and Deron Williams are fighting over who is the more washed up former star.

im not talking about his flashiness and skills... i mean if were talking crossovers, theres a bunch of guys like jason white chocolate williams who were wizards with the ball and yet were not great basketball players...

im not putting rose in that category necessarily but i think he got way too much hype relative to his actual production... the guy literally played only 3 full seasons in the league and won the mvp in his 3rd, but even if you look at his numbers during his mvp year, they were really good but not mvp calibre imo... i realize theres more to the mvp than just numbers, but if you compare his stats to the mvps before and after him, theyre really not even in the same category... and prior to that mvp season, he only had a PER of 16.0 and 18.6 in his first 2 seasons... i mean even demar has has had PERs of of 18.4 and 17.4 the past 2 seasons respectively and no one would say hes even close to derrick rose's level of talent...

i think rose got overhyped because of the success of that 62 win bulls team, the flashiness and athleticism of his game and the fact he was a number one pick... but in terms of overall production, hes a little overrated... russell westbrook **** on him.

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