ImageImageImageImageImage

PG: Wasted a Miracle

Moderators: DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, lebron stopper, HiJiNX, 7 Footer, Morris_Shatford

User avatar
720
RealGM
Posts: 33,135
And1: 67,758
Joined: Nov 01, 2012
Location: Malton
     

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#261 » by 720 » Wed May 4, 2016 3:18 am

bape_lovers wrote:I think we gotten use to losing game 1 by now


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums

A part of me believes this is it. This team lacks the killer mentality.
Image
Image
User avatar
hsb
RealGM
Posts: 18,678
And1: 15,859
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
       

Re: New monkey on our back: GAME 1 losses 

Post#262 » by hsb » Wed May 4, 2016 3:18 am

No, you just cant keep making up new ones lol.
"I definitely knew he traveled, but I didn't know they were going to call it. That was one of them situations in which a great player made a move...and they called the call. And I was like, 'Oh, man, there is a God.'
BBallInSight
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,668
And1: 1,341
Joined: Jul 28, 2008

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#263 » by BBallInSight » Wed May 4, 2016 3:19 am

visionquest wrote:We played awful, never got into a rhythm, missed FTs, dribbled off our legs.....BUT STILL MADE IT CLOSE!

Our team has NO COMPOSURE in crunch time.

We lost this, they didnt win it.


This makes me feel worse, not better.
User avatar
Susp3ct
Veteran
Posts: 2,893
And1: 2,063
Joined: Jan 30, 2009
Location: California
     

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#264 » by Susp3ct » Wed May 4, 2016 3:19 am

the real miracle tonight was Ozzy cleaning up his mess faster than Curry's release time.
User avatar
Clementine9
RealGM
Posts: 12,573
And1: 26,005
Joined: Aug 02, 2012
Location: My mom's basement doing analytics

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#265 » by Clementine9 » Wed May 4, 2016 3:19 am

Fischella wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Fischella wrote:No more CoJo or Ross with Wade, put Powell out there +30minpg if you need too, but you cant let him move freely like that, same with Valanciunas, I get that he had a fine offensive game but he was putrid on the other side, he has no idea of how to defend the PNR and he neither flashes or stay put, he makes a weird move/fake to the middle that makes it impossible for him to recover and neither can he bother the shooter, he is so damn slow.

Biyombo hasnt had much impact but at least he can be more versatile there.
The Raps need Lowry in the game even at this level, his playmaking is miles better than the next guy up, and you need his brains and defense, other than helping off Dragic stupidly at the end, he has been solid against Goran.

And just try Delon Wright man, they need to find a better way to use PatPat, he cant be the guy that has to defend Joe when the Heat go small, has struggled there.

What? Biyombo was terrible tonight and Val carried us..

Raptors couldnt get a stop to save their life all clutch long and it was largely due to Joseph or Ross defending Wade and Jonas in the middle been wishy washy and slow.


DefRtg of 88.3 with JV on the floor tonight, 2nd best on the team behind Lowry. I don't think he consistently got beat on the PnR tonight. He got beat, but every player gets beat in the PnR. Couple nice moves by Wade, a hall of famer. Not going to complain. Defense wasn't the issue tonight. Hasn't been the issue all playoffs.
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
User avatar
Vlade Divac
Head Coach
Posts: 6,807
And1: 7,602
Joined: Jul 08, 2005
Location: North York
       

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#266 » by Vlade Divac » Wed May 4, 2016 3:19 am

Language filter is still here, just like in 2009.
Image
User avatar
bonjovi0308
Veteran
Posts: 2,920
And1: 1,077
Joined: Jul 15, 2003

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#267 » by bonjovi0308 » Wed May 4, 2016 3:19 am

Just my observations:
- Powell has an off game, whether its offensively or defensively. I felt there were a couple of under the basket shots he should have made.
- We were out rebounded, particularly on the offensive end. Bismack was not as dominant in the Pacers series. Is this a matchup problem? We need to do something regarding this
- No defensive solution on Dragic
- Too many sloppy turnovers
- Lowry chucking - if you have an offnight and can't shoot, DON'T SHOOT! Try driving to the hole or play making!
- We should have played more pick and roll and feeding JV running to the basket
- Winslow is terrible
User avatar
wille-dynamite
Pro Prospect
Posts: 903
And1: 407
Joined: Jul 07, 2003

Re: Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#268 » by wille-dynamite » Wed May 4, 2016 3:19 am

RalphWiggum wrote:
wille-dynamite wrote:Good news is Masai has a clear rebuilding plan as our weakness's has been clearly exposed.

DD, KL and coach need to go

Cocaine is a helluva drug.


Yeah you're right we should continue with the brick bros.
Credit to Turbo Zone Realgm Legend
Image
No-Man
RealGM
Posts: 14,879
And1: 3,480
Joined: Feb 11, 2012

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#269 » by No-Man » Wed May 4, 2016 3:20 am

[SJJ] wrote:D-Wade is still a MONSTER.

he had a really good game, kudos to him, but again, Joseph/Val defense has been atrocious.
User avatar
Mascot
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,482
And1: 1,011
Joined: May 29, 2007
Location: Newfoundland
Contact:
   

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#270 » by Mascot » Wed May 4, 2016 3:20 am

OT
04:21 DeRozan Driving Layup Shot: Missed
02:46 DeRozan Turnover : Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal:Whiteside (2 ST)
01:14 [TOR 92-98] DeRozan Pullup Jump shot: Made (22 PTS)
00:22.1 DeRozan Foul: Personal Take (2 PF) (J Phillips)
00:15.4 DeRozan Rebound (Off:0 Def:6)
00:04.9 DeRozan Turnover : Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal:Wade (3 ST)


GIVE THIS MAN THE MAX!
Image
YogurtProducer
RealGM
Posts: 30,758
And1: 33,429
Joined: Jul 22, 2013
Location: Saskatchewan
       

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#271 » by YogurtProducer » Wed May 4, 2016 3:20 am

Fischella wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Fischella wrote:No more CoJo or Ross with Wade, put Powell out there +30minpg if you need too, but you cant let him move freely like that, same with Valanciunas, I get that he had a fine offensive game but he was putrid on the other side, he has no idea of how to defend the PNR and he neither flashes or stay put, he makes a weird move/fake to the middle that makes it impossible for him to recover and neither can he bother the shooter, he is so damn slow.

Biyombo hasnt had much impact but at least he can be more versatile there.
The Raps need Lowry in the game even at this level, his playmaking is miles better than the next guy up, and you need his brains and defense, other than helping off Dragic stupidly at the end, he has been solid against Goran.

And just try Delon Wright man, they need to find a better way to use PatPat, he cant be the guy that has to defend Joe when the Heat go small, has struggled there.

What? Biyombo was terrible tonight and Val carried us..

Raptors couldnt get a stop to save their life all clutch long and it was largely due to Joseph or Ross defending Wade and Jonas in the middle been wishy washy and slow.


Okay, but no. If you're talking OT there was nothing Val could've done. All the shots they hit were mid range or post ups on non bigs. They were tough shots too save for the one following the review. not much we could've done there.

Biyombo was like a minus 11 in 12 minutes tonight. He gave us 0 offense and 0 defense.
User avatar
Clementine9
RealGM
Posts: 12,573
And1: 26,005
Joined: Aug 02, 2012
Location: My mom's basement doing analytics

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#272 » by Clementine9 » Wed May 4, 2016 3:20 am

Fischella wrote:
[SJJ] wrote:D-Wade is still a MONSTER.

he had a really good game, kudos to him, but again, Joseph/Val defense has been atrocious.


DefRtg of 88.3 with JV on the floor tonight. 2nd best on the team. Try again.
Lateral Quicks wrote:Gradually JV's minutes will approach zero at the same time his points and rebounds approach infinity - a statistical singularity, if you will. Shrewd move from Nurse.
BBallInSight
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,668
And1: 1,341
Joined: Jul 28, 2008

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#273 » by BBallInSight » Wed May 4, 2016 3:20 am

whoknows wrote:
Southward1 wrote:The playoffs has really exposed that the offense needs to be completely re-structured


It is free-flow ISO amateur offense, cannot restructure something that has no structure to start with...


Then we need to re-unstructurize.
User avatar
VinBaker6
RealGM
Posts: 26,241
And1: 61,810
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
Location: The Horn
 

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#274 » by VinBaker6 » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

I feel very good about this series. Miami isn't great. Clean a few things on the pnr coverage with Whiteside and we're good.

Raps in 6, even with Lowry's trash play.
Image

S/O to TZ!
TheGoodDoctor
General Manager
Posts: 9,807
And1: 8,607
Joined: Jul 23, 2012

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#275 » by TheGoodDoctor » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

[SJJ] wrote:D-Wade is still a MONSTER.


Kyle and DeMar are still AWFUL.
Matty
General Manager
Posts: 9,353
And1: 18,425
Joined: Dec 04, 2013
Location: Home of The Golden Asterisk Champions
 

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#276 » by Matty » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

Bankai wrote:
CaptainKoolAid wrote:Serious question since I don't remember at all. Did Casey take advantage of the refs looking over that final out of bounds call to draw up a play?

The play was the classic "Demar ball off his foot" play. Unfortunately for the Raptors its always executed perfectly.


I swear it feels like we've seen this happen a few times this season. The guy's hands are absolutely brutal in the final minute.
User avatar
TheRealDeal
RealGM
Posts: 12,043
And1: 12,130
Joined: Nov 17, 2004
 

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#277 » by TheRealDeal » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

Is JV injured?
User avatar
BJaysRaps
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,776
And1: 8,729
Joined: Nov 03, 2013
   

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#278 » by BJaysRaps » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

LOL SOME GUYs ON REDDIT described this game perfectly.

It's like you shoot yourself in the head, get resuscitated, and then shoot yourself in the mouth. **** just end yourself already you ain't winning with that trash ass offense. Scrub ass scrubs, pissing away home court yet again.


Hi, I'm Regular Season DeRozan, and I have cable. Hi, I'm Playoffs DeRozan and I don't even have a **** TV
Image
User avatar
Clutch Carter
RealGM
Posts: 24,387
And1: 71,881
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
Location: In the face! Let's NBA!

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#279 » by Clutch Carter » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

Lowry set the tone for us defensively. He was a +7 so he played well for us. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Casey trolling.
#FreeLRJ Offical 1,000,000 post crew:
Raptor95,Seanbig,Spykelee,ClutchCarter,aRapsFan4eva,KozRJC,MAS,Slowlydrowningme,bigdub,GQstylin

Image
No-Man
RealGM
Posts: 14,879
And1: 3,480
Joined: Feb 11, 2012

Re: PG: Wasted a Miracle 

Post#280 » by No-Man » Wed May 4, 2016 3:21 am

Clementine9 wrote:
Fischella wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:What? Biyombo was terrible tonight and Val carried us..

Raptors couldnt get a stop to save their life all clutch long and it was largely due to Joseph or Ross defending Wade and Jonas in the middle been wishy washy and slow.


DefRtg of 88.3 with JV on the floor tonight, 2nd best on the team behind Lowry. I don't think he consistently got beat on the PnR tonight. He got beat, but every player gets beat in the PnR. Couple nice moves by Wade, a hall of famer. Not going to complain. Defense wasn't the issue tonight. Hasn't been the issue all playoffs.

I get that, but when your offense is poop and you know it your defense better cuts it or you cant win, that was the case tonite

Return to Toronto Raptors