Nurse Intro Presser Thread (UPDATE: Stream link/2:30 PM EST)

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Why do ppl keep calling Masai trust fund baby?

Barbara told us to.

[MavCarter]

You're borderlining on constant negativity, which is against the boards rules. Unofficial warning. --Duff

lol really. Criticizing Masai is an offense now.

I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end.

BC had 2 winning seasons here. Everyone was negative about him and right in the end

[Spex]

Why do ppl keep calling Masai trust fund baby?

It was one of the tweets about Masai from the Colangelo burner account debacle and people will beat a horse until they strike ground before moving to a different part of the horse.

[kleatius_01]

Wow, super ignorant. A NBA lifer who got his job from his daddy calling the Nigerian guy a trust fund baby? How ignorant can you get?

Can't believe ppl are repeating this garbage.

[Danny1616]

If terrible fan = being rational and taking off the homer goggles, then sure.

see: when you think you're being rational, and noone agrees with you, how can it rational?

Masai is not a terrible GM. He's probably top 10 in the league. There is no way I would rank him lower than that.

A good GM is proactive. Something Masai isn't.

He's been riding out BC's core and coach for 5 years. He's been handing out bad contracts like candy. The only thing he's done well is draft. I've always maintained that he has a great eye for talent, but that's all he's good for. He's not GM material as he doesn't do the other tasks required of a GM very well.

So trading Bargnani for draft picks and Rudy Gay for depth is not proactive?

You realize that one of the reasons he was able to draft those young players is because he fleeced the Knicks in that Bargnani trade.

Not to mention in the past he brought guys like Cojo, Biyombo and Tucker to help our team. Biyombo and Tucker were very good for us, but Biyombo increased his value like crazy after the 2016 playoffs and Tucker chose to leave.

I also commend Masai for flipping Cojo for Myles and having faith in Delon/FVV.

He's done an incredible job...it's just that you have been spoiled by a perennial 50+ team to see it. Only two teams have made the finals in the past 4 years...it's not so easy.

[Raps in 4]

lol really. Criticizing Masai is an offense now.

I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end.

BC had 2 winning seasons here. Everyone was negative about him and right in the end

Look up threads from earlier in his tenure. He had overwhelming support on this forum. The Hedo signing thread is great to go back to (most posters were elated with the signing). Even the Gay trade saw a lot of support for it and vehement arguing against Gay's inefficiency.

[Raps in 4]

see: when you think you're being rational, and noone agrees with you, how can it rational?

Masai is not a terrible GM. He's probably top 10 in the league. There is no way I would rank him lower than that.

A good GM is proactive. Something Masai isn't.

He's been riding out BC's core and coach for 5 years. He's been handing out bad contracts like candy. The only thing he's done well is draft. I've always maintained that he has a great eye for talent, but that's all he's good for. He's not GM material as he doesn't do the other tasks required of a GM very well.

So trading Bargnani for draft picks and Rudy Gay for depth is not proactive?

You realize that one of the reasons he was able to draft those young players is because he fleeced the Knicks in that Bargnani trade.

Not to mention in the past he brought guys like Cojo, Biyombo and Tucker to help our team. Biyombo and Tucker were very good for us, but Biyombo increased his value like crazy after the 2016 playoffs and Tucker chose to leave.

I also commend Masai for flipping Cojo for Myles and having faith in Delon/FVV.

He's done an incredible job...it's just that you have been spoiled by a perennial 50+ team to see it. Only two teams have made the finals in the past 4 years...it's not so easy.

My issue is him not addressing the core. Reshuffling the deck chairs is one thing, but that rarely pushes a team over the top (as we've seen time and time again). Look at what Ainge is doing in Boston. He doesn't rest in his laurels. He tries to make the team better every year with bold moves.

If you want to compete, you need to be proactive. If you want to rebuild, you can take your time. Taking the middle ground doesn't work in this case. Our team doesn't have much more room to grow. You either need to try and make win-now moves or you need to rebuild and enter that "organic growth" phase.

[MavCarter]

I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end.

BC had 2 winning seasons here. Everyone was negative about him and right in the end

Look up threads from earlier in his tenure. He had overwhelming support on this forum. The Hedo signing thread is great to go back to (most posters were elated with the signing). Even the Gay trade saw a lot of support for it and vehement arguing against Gay's inefficiency.

Realgm loves splashy moves, this is known. A majority of the board started to turn on him not too long after CB left though. I remember that one thread where a supposed MLSE insider gave info on how BC was manipulating people behind the scenes and how he would keep his job for a long time. That might have been the most shambolic thread in realgm history

[Throwback24]

lol really. Criticizing Masai is an offense now.

I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end.

BC had 2 winning seasons here. Everyone was negative about him and right in the end

Trust me, I don't know how I'm one of the few people on here with a vivid memory of the BC era but it didn't turn negative until the VERY end. There was a very loud minority of us complaining day in and day out while the rest of the board pointed to our record and playoff births.

Before we got to that point it was a bunch of people, who btw still post here and criticize people for pointing the finger at Ujiri, and I quote:

The Colangelos have connections around the league. Besides, if we hire BC is there anyone with a better pedigree?

[LoveMyRaps]

Did Masai speak at the presser?

[Danny1616]

A good GM is proactive. Something Masai isn't.

He's been riding out BC's core and coach for 5 years. He's been handing out bad contracts like candy. The only thing he's done well is draft. I've always maintained that he has a great eye for talent, but that's all he's good for. He's not GM material as he doesn't do the other tasks required of a GM very well.

So trading Bargnani for draft picks and Rudy Gay for depth is not proactive?

You realize that one of the reasons he was able to draft those young players is because he fleeced the Knicks in that Bargnani trade.

Not to mention in the past he brought guys like Cojo, Biyombo and Tucker to help our team. Biyombo and Tucker were very good for us, but Biyombo increased his value like crazy after the 2016 playoffs and Tucker chose to leave.

I also commend Masai for flipping Cojo for Myles and having faith in Delon/FVV.

He's done an incredible job...it's just that you have been spoiled by a perennial 50+ team to see it. Only two teams have made the finals in the past 4 years...it's not so easy.

My issue is him not addressing the core. Reshuffling the deck chairs is one thing, but that rarely pushes a team over the top (as we've seen time and time again). Look at what Ainge is doing in Boston. He doesn't rest in his laurels. He tries to make the team better every year with bold moves.

If you want to compete, you need to be proactive. If you want to rebuild, you can take your time. Taking the middle ground doesn't work in this case. Our team doesn't have much more room to grow. You either need to try and make win-now moves or you need to rebuild and enter that "organic growth" phase.

It's very easy to say that in hindsight.

But looking back at let's say 2016 we had a 56 win team who just went to 6 games with the champions.

Derozan at the time was still only 25-26 and Lowry was the heart of this team.

Signing Derozan was huge at the time because in the past our stars like Vince and Bosh bailed. Everyone was proud that Derozan chose to stay and remain loyal.

Derozan and Lowry both have flaws but they are still a top 5 back court in this league and I would take them over Wall+Beal and Lillard+CJ.

End of the day it's easy to say 'rebuild' or 'break the core' but you don't just do it if you can't find a better alternative.

I do agree now that Derozan and Lowry's time may be up and it would be beneficial to trade one of them if a team sends us a nice package.

Fans have to realize that despite the playoff disappointments this is the golden age era of Raptors basketball and this team has taken us farther then any team/player we have had before.

[BigShaq34]

Sigh. I know he can't really give specifics and doesn't want to openly criticize Casey, but he gave no solutions whatsoever.

I remember watching that Cleveland series and nurse had the half time interview and basically shrugged his shoulders and said we need to play better.

Unless we make big changes to the roster, I'm done supporting Masai.

what kind of changes to the roster should we make? No one wants Demar, Ibaka, or an aging Lowry. And trading away those young guys on the bench would be a mistake.

[Yeezus_]

Wow, super ignorant. A NBA lifer who got his job from his daddy calling the Nigerian guy a trust fund baby? How ignorant can you get?

Can't believe ppl are repeating this garbage.

It's wild that alot of people on here repeat that as if it's a funny joke.

[BigShaq34]

Wow, super ignorant. A NBA lifer who got his job from his daddy calling the Nigerian guy a trust fund baby? How ignorant can you get?

Can't believe ppl are repeating this garbage.

It's wild that alot of people on here repeat that as if it's a funny joke.

He's been riding BC's core since he got here in 2013. BC drafted Demar, traded for Lowry, and drafted JV.

Those are the main guys on the team.

[Raps in 4]

So trading Bargnani for draft picks and Rudy Gay for depth is not proactive?

You realize that one of the reasons he was able to draft those young players is because he fleeced the Knicks in that Bargnani trade.

Not to mention in the past he brought guys like Cojo, Biyombo and Tucker to help our team. Biyombo and Tucker were very good for us, but Biyombo increased his value like crazy after the 2016 playoffs and Tucker chose to leave.

I also commend Masai for flipping Cojo for Myles and having faith in Delon/FVV.

He's done an incredible job...it's just that you have been spoiled by a perennial 50+ team to see it. Only two teams have made the finals in the past 4 years...it's not so easy.

My issue is him not addressing the core. Reshuffling the deck chairs is one thing, but that rarely pushes a team over the top (as we've seen time and time again). Look at what Ainge is doing in Boston. He doesn't rest in his laurels. He tries to make the team better every year with bold moves.

If you want to compete, you need to be proactive. If you want to rebuild, you can take your time. Taking the middle ground doesn't work in this case. Our team doesn't have much more room to grow. You either need to try and make win-now moves or you need to rebuild and enter that "organic growth" phase.

It's very easy to say that in hindsight.

But looking back at let's say 2016 we had a 56 win team who just went to 6 games with the champions.

Derozan at the time was still only 25-26 and Lowry was the heart of this team.

Signing Derozan was huge at the time because in the past our stars like Vince and Bosh bailed. Everyone was proud that Derozan chose to stay and remain loyal.

Derozan and Lowry both have flaws but they are still a top 5 back court in this league and I would take them over Wall+Beal and Lillard+CJ.

End of the day it's easy to say 'rebuild' or 'break the core' but you don't just do it if you can't find a better alternative.

I do agree now that Derozan and Lowry's time may be up and it would be beneficial to trade one of them if a team sends us a nice package.

Not everyone was "proud" of the Derozan signing. His advanced metrics were always terrible, and many of us were very concerned by the signing. Low efficiency volume scorers are not effective in today's NBA, especially ones that don't play defence. I was hopeful (as that's all I could so after the ink had dried) that Derozan might be able to improve his game, and it finally seemed like he did earlier this season, but then it all came crashing down again. Our worst fears realized. Derozan is who he is, and he's wildly overpaid.

[MavCarter]

I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end.

BC had 2 winning seasons here. Everyone was negative about him and right in the end

Trust me, I don't know how I'm one of the few people on here with a vivid memory of the BC era but it didn't turn negative until the VERY end. There was a very loud minority of us complaining day in and day out while the rest of the board pointed to our record and playoff births.

Before we got to that point it was a bunch of people, who btw still post here and criticize people for pointing the finger at Ujiri, and I quote:

The Colangelos have connections around the league. Besides, if we hire BC is there anyone with a better pedigree?

This isn't how i remember it at all. People were critical of his euro fetish and bargani being a bust early. People trusted him again when he started a rebuild but like 2 years in he wanted to accelerate the rebuild with stupid moves and people turned on him again. Comparing someone who's largest accomplishment with the franchise was 48 wins and 2 first round exits to someone who has 3 50 win seasons and an ECF appearance in his 5 years here sounds idiotic to me

[azorian]

Link? I must have missed it

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[ATLTimekeeper]

I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end.

BC had 2 winning seasons here. Everyone was negative about him and right in the end

Trust me, I don't know how I'm one of the few people on here with a vivid memory of the BC era but it didn't turn negative until the VERY end. There was a very loud minority of us complaining day in and day out while the rest of the board pointed to our record and playoff births.

Before we got to that point it was a bunch of people, who btw still post here and criticize people for pointing the finger at Ujiri, and I quote:

The Colangelos have connections around the league. Besides, if we hire BC is there anyone with a better pedigree?

I think your memory is a bit selective. Colangelo's "Eurovision" was questioned from the start. There was definitely some robust support given his pedigree and the early success, but Bargnani was a lightening rod for arguments, Jose was a lightening rod, and ultimately BC had a fair amount of skeptics from the beginning. Things began to turn more hostile when the JO deal pancaked.

This board right now is mostly positive and supportive of Ujiri, because overall team success leads to fewer questions. He also hasn't made a lot of big moves that people can camp out on.

[Vorticity]

Why do ppl keep calling Masai trust fund baby?

Barbara told us to.

Game 1 against the Cavs is gonna be Trust Fund Baby's new Garbo

[OakleyDokely]

Wow, super ignorant. A NBA lifer who got his job from his daddy calling the Nigerian guy a trust fund baby? How ignorant can you get?

Can't believe ppl are repeating this garbage.

It's wild that alot of people on here repeat that as if it's a funny joke.

He's been riding BC's core since he got here in 2013. BC drafted Demar, traded for Lowry, and drafted JV.

Those are the main guys on the team.

BCs "core" won 34 games when Masai arrived.