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With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn

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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#261 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:07 pm

I never saw him play... but this pick is hardly the sexiest pick. Not a project, or a sf/pf with endless upside that you can talk in circles about.
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Post#262 » by DrCoach » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:11 pm

Funny thing about Masai Is he loves long athletic players yet he finds and develops guys like Lowry, and FVV.

Hes very versatile drafter
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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#263 » by gerrit4 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:16 pm

Based on what I'm seeing with this guy, I love this pick. Raps continue to target intelligent, mature players who can defend.

I'm not a draft expert, as I've clearly been wrong before, but he looks like a really good NBA player to me. I'm actually more excited about him than a lot of the guys in the lottery.
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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#264 » by YogiStewart » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:20 pm

hey guys.
having slept on this pick and the 2nd round pick, i've decided that, based on youtube mixes where they only show made baskets, these 2 picks are absolute steals and we won the draft.
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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#265 » by dagger » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:22 pm

From The Athletic

Pick: 29
Team: Raptors | Player: Malachi Flynn | 6-1 guard | 185 | 22, junior | San Diego State
Vecenie’s scouting report: One of my favorite underrated players in this draft. Flynn was a first-team All-American and the Mountain West Player of the Year plus Defensive Player of the Year. He’s a maestro with ball screens, has a great pull-up game, and really has improved a lot as a distributor over his time in college. Plus, he’s known as an elite-level worker. I think he’s the closest thing to Fred VanVleet that I’ve evaluated since the man himself, so it’s no stunner that the Raptors went for him.
Ranking: No. 26
Hollinger’s team fit: This pick might raise some eyebrows given Fred VanVleet’s impending free agency, but the Raptors typically take a longer view than this. Flynn was one of my sleepers, and while I rated Devon Dotson and Theo Maledon a bit higher in the backcourt, I have a hard time arguing with Toronto adding another high IQ, high feel player.
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Vecenie: Probably Tre Jones, but honestly I love this pick so much that I can’t complain |
Hollinger: Flynn
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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#266 » by DG88 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:33 pm

This draft was flat/deep draft for rotation players there were very few upside picks but upside isn't everything. Flynn was one of the prospects I liked because of his poise, defense and ability to create in the PnR.

Next years draft is going to have a ton of high upside talented wings and bigs throughout the first round. It would make more sense to target that type of player in 2021 draft then this one.
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Post#267 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:39 pm

the thing with Flynn is that he can come off screens and shoot (vs Fred who is not known to do that) Lets see how that translates to the NBA. It looks like he's got NBA 3pt range on his shot already. he's ready to contribute.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#268 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 pm

DG88 wrote:This draft was flat/deep draft for rotation players there were very few upside picks but upside isn't everything. Flynn was one of the prospects I liked because of his poise, defense and ability to create in the PnR.

Next years draft is going to have a ton of high upside talented wings and bigs throughout the first round. It would make more sense to target that type of player in 2021 draft then this one.


I agree with this. not many drafted players realize their upside either. so many fail and are out of the NBA pretty soon. a large percentage actually. a minority of the people in the draft thread wanted a lot of higher potential guys but most likely would have fell in and out of the NBA pretty quickly.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#269 » by Indeed » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:53 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
DG88 wrote:This draft was flat/deep draft for rotation players there were very few upside picks but upside isn't everything. Flynn was one of the prospects I liked because of his poise, defense and ability to create in the PnR.

Next years draft is going to have a ton of high upside talented wings and bigs throughout the first round. It would make more sense to target that type of player in 2021 draft then this one.


I agree with this. not many drafted players realize their upside either. so many fail and are out of the NBA pretty soon. a large percentage actually. a minority of the people in the draft thread wanted a lot of higher potential guys but most likely would have fell in and out of the NBA pretty quickly.


Upside isn't everything, but not switchable is going to hurt us, as being undersized at both guard spots is a concern.

I understand the draft is weak, and other prospects may not do better, but it is more a win now pick, short sighted. Someone in Maledon would allow us to be more flexible on defense, even he needs another year like Davis to be contributing positively on both end.
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Post#270 » by Brinbe » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:01 pm

This is anything but shortsighted. Lowry is in his mid 30s now. He's only got a few years left. Flynn is 22. This is forward-thinking.

Drafting some big would be the short-term move.
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Post#271 » by RaptorsNorth » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm

What’s Masai and Bobby’s next move to find a back up SF, a back up PF and a starting centre/back up centre ? Even if Serge is back we still need another centre. Who’s out there on the market ? Europe ? Lots of work still to be done.
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Post#272 » by Brinbe » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:09 pm

Let's put it this way, would you take like 70/80% of Trae Young's offense but with actual defense? That's a pretty good player, right?
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Post#273 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:14 pm

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
DG88 wrote:This draft was flat/deep draft for rotation players there were very few upside picks but upside isn't everything. Flynn was one of the prospects I liked because of his poise, defense and ability to create in the PnR.

Next years draft is going to have a ton of high upside talented wings and bigs throughout the first round. It would make more sense to target that type of player in 2021 draft then this one.


I agree with this. not many drafted players realize their upside either. so many fail and are out of the NBA pretty soon. a large percentage actually. a minority of the people in the draft thread wanted a lot of higher potential guys but most likely would have fell in and out of the NBA pretty quickly.


Upside isn't everything, but not switchable is going to hurt us, as being undersized at both guard spots is a concern.

I understand the draft is weak, and other prospects may not do better, but it is more a win now pick, short sighted. Someone in Maledon would allow us to be more flexible on defense, even he needs another year like Davis to be contributing positively on both end.


Maledon could be out of the league in 5 years for all we know. at 6'5" and not an elite athlete, he doesn't have lateral quickness from what I've seen, not quick either, lacks defensive awareness, not that much verticality either, doesn't close out on shooters,
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#274 » by Zeno » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:15 pm

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about this pick is his name. Of course this is absolutely stupid but Malachi brings to mind Malachi Richardson and Flynn brings to mind Johnny Flynn. So the name represents a double bust to me that is hard to overcome mentally. But everything I'm hearing and seeing about this kid seems good and of course you got to trust this front office.
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Post#275 » by Mr_NC » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:30 pm

Sign me up for the Malachi Flynn wave

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Post#276 » by Psubs » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:42 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Indeed wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
I agree with this. not many drafted players realize their upside either. so many fail and are out of the NBA pretty soon. a large percentage actually. a minority of the people in the draft thread wanted a lot of higher potential guys but most likely would have fell in and out of the NBA pretty quickly.


Upside isn't everything, but not switchable is going to hurt us, as being undersized at both guard spots is a concern.

I understand the draft is weak, and other prospects may not do better, but it is more a win now pick, short sighted. Someone in Maledon would allow us to be more flexible on defense, even he needs another year like Davis to be contributing positively on both end.


Maledon could be out of the league in 5 years for all we know. at 6'5" and not an elite athlete, he doesn't have lateral quickness from what I've seen, not quick either, lacks defensive awareness, not that much verticality either, doesn't close out on shooters,


Sounds like Ntilikina.
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Post#277 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:48 pm

Zeno wrote:The only thing that makes me uncomfortable about this pick is his name. Of course this is absolutely stupid but Malachi brings to mind Malachi Richardson and Flynn brings to mind Johnny Flynn. So the name represents a double bust to me that is hard to overcome mentally. But everything I'm hearing and seeing about this kid seems good and of course you got to trust this front office.


you know what they say:

2 negatives make a positive :lol: :lol:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#278 » by Yeezus_ » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:50 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:the thing with Flynn is that he can come off screens and shoot (vs Fred who is not known to do that) Lets see how that translates to the NBA. It looks like he's got NBA 3pt range on his shot already. he's ready to contribute.

Flynn has a floater which means he'll be able to get into the paint and not get blocked like Fred lol
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Re: With the 29th Pick in the 2020 NBA Draft the Toronto Raptors Select: Malachi Flynn 

Post#279 » by scopy » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:51 pm

WeTheNorth123 wrote:Really reminds me of vanvleet....flynn doesnt have the best size but his defense is still good


Just from the highlights Ive seen, he looks to be a very good passer / creator off the screen and roll.
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Post#280 » by Psubs » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:53 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:the thing with Flynn is that he can come off screens and shoot (vs Fred who is not known to do that) Lets see how that translates to the NBA. It looks like he's got NBA 3pt range on his shot already. he's ready to contribute.

Flynn has a floater which means he'll be able to get into the paint and not get blocked like Fred lol


Sounds like Mike Bibby.

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