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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#261 » by aminiaturebuddha » Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:07 pm

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This is funny because it's the complete opposite. Good process, bad results.


Agreed. That's a really strange way of putting it. With a bunch of those turnovers you can see what he's trying to do, the execution just isn't there yet. As you said, good process, bad result.
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Post#262 » by hype_2004 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:06 pm

Jcity08 wrote:The real prize when it comes to Scottie is the impact he has that cannot easily be quantified by a stat. He is made to be a leader, as a rookie he is so calm, measured and very good at making reads and communicating with his teammates.

Also with the no look passes, he already understands the value of misdirection and not telegraphing what he is about to do, which isnt always perfect but he's far ahead than most.


Never seen someone so young this poised and mature since rookie LeBron and Tim Duncan.
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Post#263 » by hype_2004 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:11 pm

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the big key - all those other players are centers or big 4's.

scottie is the only wing player.


He has a ridiculously long wingspan and strong body, he plays like an old school C with the ability to handle lik a PG.
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Post#264 » by Madhouse » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:16 pm

The tip pass to OG for the corner 3 was probably his best play of that last game. Most players don't really realize it and just take the ball, either attack the rack or try the pass later and turn it over.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#265 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:34 pm

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This franchise (and fans) are definitely hype about Scottie...

Never seen them put this much focus on any of rooks, nevermind the big minutes and even fairly good usage but where they have this mini-feature, that's clearly very well put together - they know they have a special young player.

He just has an aura, a certain level of play, understanding of the game where you know he's gonna be good. People are thinking they see flashes of Magic, Pippen, a little Giannis like when he steamrolls to the rim, trying to add some Kawhi mid and post --- like when people used to think Embiid was looking something like Hakeem and now he's a MVP caliber player himself. I'm not saying he'll reach the levels of Embiid but like him more n more those "flashes" become the norm and they get more advanced as he learns more about the game and he starts becoming more n more efficient and that kid becomes a star --- as I think most of us recognize, it's not if, it's when Scottie becomes one.

For me it's both super exciting because I think we might have a true franchise changing talent BUT the selfish part is almost like please tell him to take it easy :lol: I just want one more year in the lottery to try and find him a TRUE all-star level running mate for the next near decade. But as he gets more n more reps, he's gonna take off!!

It's almost a game to game basis where literally either us as fans OR even commentators themselves saying "I didn't know he could do that". We all thought it would be like it was with OG or Pascal where it was like 2-3 years down the line before you really see any returns but no out the gate! This is kid is ballin, showing a higher level of bball IQ than most vets, making immediate impact (I'd argue HE won us the BOS game with what he did defensively to Tatum AND Brown) and he's a LEGIT candidate for ROY....

I'm not saying he's Magic or even Pippen but playing in that style or anything near that just helps teams win games (period) and that's where I'm excited because this kid is a pup...in 4-5 years good lawd, I'm confident he can be the spearhead of 50+W team but I just wish I could have my cake n eat it too. Where Scottie shows us these amazing flashes all season then somehow we shut him down or others in the starting line up again and just see if we can get him that other young star and this franchise be golden. OG's great but imo he's not quite the elite level of scorer you'd want to ideally pair and Pascal/Achuiwa will give you great production as your runners and cutters but just want one dude that just gets buckets when the lights are brightest type of player (*ahem maybe Hardy) and then I could see a scenario given all those pieces with Scottie....the whole franchise would be set for take off the following season and from there on out.... we try going NOW, I don't think we hit the same heights.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#266 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:32 pm

so hard to evaluate prospects. We all knew Scottie had the potential to be something great post draft but never woulda thought he'd be this good ONLY 5 GAMES IN.

Then pre draft we look at Suggs and Moody who were supposed to be more nba ready and they've contributed zero's.

masai knew all along.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#267 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:40 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
Pooper wrote:


This franchise (and fans) are definitely hype about Scottie...

Never seen them put this much focus on any of rooks, nevermind the big minutes and even fairly good usage but where they have this mini-feature, that's clearly very well put together - they know they have a special young player.

He just has an aura, a certain level of play, understanding of the game where you know he's gonna be good. People are thinking they see flashes of Magic, Pippen, a little Giannis like when he steamrolls to the rim, trying to add some Kawhi mid and post --- like when people used to think Embiid was looking something like Hakeem and now he's a MVP caliber player himself. I'm not saying he'll reach the levels of Embiid but like him more n more those "flashes" become the norm and they get more advanced as he learns more about the game and he starts becoming more n more efficient and that kid becomes a star --- as I think most of us recognize, it's not if, it's when Scottie becomes one.

For me it's both super exciting because I think we might have a true franchise changing talent BUT the selfish part is almost like please tell him to take it easy :lol: I just want one more year in the lottery to try and find him a TRUE all-star level running mate for the next near decade. But as he gets more n more reps, he's gonna take off!!

It's almost a game to game basis where literally either us as fans OR even commentators themselves saying "I didn't know he could do that". We all thought it would be like it was with OG or Pascal where it was like 2-3 years down the line before you really see any returns but no out the gate! This is kid is ballin, showing a higher level of bball IQ than most vets, making immediate impact (I'd argue HE won us the BOS game with what he did defensively to Tatum AND Brown) and he's a LEGIT candidate for ROY....

I'm not saying he's Magic or even Pippen but playing in that style or anything near that just helps teams win games (period) and that's where I'm excited because this kid is a pup...in 4-5 years good lawd, I'm confident he can be the spearhead of 50+W team but I just wish I could have my cake n eat it too. Where Scottie shows us these amazing flashes all season then somehow we shut him down or others in the starting line up again and just see if we can get him that other young star and this franchise be golden. OG's great but imo he's not quite the elite level of scorer you'd want to ideally pair and Pascal/Achuiwa will give you great production as your runners and cutters but just want one dude that just gets buckets when the lights are brightest type of player (*ahem maybe Hardy) and then I could see a scenario given all those pieces with Scottie....the whole franchise would be set for take off the following season and from there on out.... we try going NOW, I don't think we hit the same heights.



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Post#268 » by lolwut » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:40 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:so hard to evaluate prospects. We all knew Scottie had the potential to be something great post draft but never woulda thought he'd be this good ONLY 5 GAMES IN.

Then pre draft we look at Suggs and Moody who were supposed to be more nba ready and they've contributed zero's.

masai knew all along.

Projecting a young player's transition to the NBA is far from an exact science, as we've seen year after year. Many of the greatest players were picked too low in hindsight. And yet, fans continue to follow mock drafts religiously and jump to conclusions about what is a reach and what is a steal based on Youtube highlights.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#269 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:52 pm

hype_2004 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
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This is the over reaction content that I'm here for.


the big key - all those other players are centers or big 4's.

scottie is the only wing player.


He has a ridiculously long wingspan and strong body, he plays like an old school C with the ability to handle lik a PG.


Mobley was a beast pre-draft and his analytics proved it as well which is why i loved him. Both him and Scottie look to be in the running for ROY so far
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Post#270 » by Yeezus_ » Fri Oct 29, 2021 6:57 pm

New Chard Ford podcast episode out with David Thorpe as his guest. They talk about the most impressive rookies and go through a full analysis of Scottie Barnes first.
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Post#271 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:05 pm

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Post#272 » by Jerry Lucas » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:14 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
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I'd be stoked if Scottie was the next Jerry Lucas.
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Post#273 » by everdiso » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:30 pm

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Post#274 » by Clay Davis » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:57 pm

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ash_k wrote:It is not Simmons alone, it is about the fit with FVV|current OG|current Siakam|Stretch 5 + Simmons which Barnes is giving us a taste of. But this was a hypothetical for the humbled Suggs Crowd.

If you think the current best perimeter player in the league(2nd in DPOY/triple double threat) able to cover 1-through-4/5 would not help us dramatically/put us in contention then I do not think you fully understand Scottie's impact right now.
Anyway, ultimately the league belongs to players like Scottie and Ben Simmons: I am just glad we have one of them.
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Post#277 » by lobosloboslobos » Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:45 am

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Post#278 » by Madhouse » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:04 am

They need to start run plays for him. They need to give him the ball consistently. He shouldn't give the ball up when dribbling up the floor.

He can do more. It doesn't look he can be stopped consistently when he is aggressive and has the ball by many people if any.

We now know he is special so we have to play it to our advantage.
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Post#279 » by Madhouse » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:09 am

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Post#280 » by Bruin » Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:10 am

I know I might be in the minority here, but I’m actually not really looking forward to Pascals return

Love pascal both as a player and as a person, but the second he returns to the lineup, Scottie is gonna move down the pecking order. The growth we’ve seen from Scottie throughout just 6 games is phenomenal and I’d much rather let Scottie play as much as possible and make plays
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