[Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade

[LBJKB24MJ23]

The Raptors FO being tight lipped is one of the biggest complete MYTHS running on these boards...

We've leaked PLENTY of times:

PJ Tucker - well before we actually got him

https://arizonasports.com/story/543967/report-raptors-interested-in-trading-for-suns-p-j-tucker-markieff-morris/
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2613559-pj-tucker-trade-rumors-latest-news-and-speculation-on-suns-sf

Serge Ibaka - again well before they did get ahold of him

https://www.thescore.com/news/1052385-report-thunder-wanted-raptors-trio-no-9-pick-for-ibaka?fb_comment_id=1346130275403073_1346525662030201/amp

Kawhi Leonard - again leaked

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2785186-kawhi-leonard-trade-rumors-raptors-generating-buzz-as-potential-destination

Marc Gasol - annnd again

https://www.raptorshq.com/2019/2/5/18212504/nba-trade-deadline-2019-raptors-grizzlies-kyle-lowry-jonas-valanciunas-mike-conley-marc-gasol

Scottie Barnes - aaaaand yet again

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10008273-2021-nba-draft-rumors-raptors-considering-scottie-barnes-at-no-4-could-trade-pick

It's complete nonsense that people just love to say with no basis in reality

Exactly but we don’t know where the sources are leaked from … although suspicion is always on the other teams.

Leaking is not necessarily a bad thing either. Once other GMs know there is something adrift, they may also be willing to overpay or offer something unexpectedly.

It's naive at best to attribute them all to the "other" team, eventually people need to accept there's a pattern/commonality and it's the Raptors.

Possibly. There’s no real facts on that. It’s all speculation when it comes to who is the source lol


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[AkelaLoneWolf]

Bamba v Turner. Who you got? Both shooting similar percent from 3 although Bamba attempts probably lower. Also Bamba is a RFA this year but might be cheaper than whatever Turner signs for in a couple of years.

the idea of paying bamba 10 million a year for us to develop off the bench and start 20 times a year against bigger centers seems to fit us better.

If he starts in a few more games he’s guaranteed a 10.2M qualifying offer. He could be offered more although I don’t see anyone offering 18m or overpaying for his Serivces.

[PhilBlackson]

Exactly but we don’t know where the sources are leaked from … although suspicion is always on the other teams.

Leaking is not necessarily a bad thing either. Once other GMs know there is something adrift, they may also be willing to overpay or offer something unexpectedly.

It's naive at best to attribute them all to the "other" team, eventually people need to accept there's a pattern/commonality and it's the Raptors.

Possibly. There’s no real facts on that. It’s all speculation when it comes to who is the source lol


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So us wanting to draft Scottie Barnes was a rival executive which would make absolutely no sense?! Lol come on, at some point the denial needs to stop, clearly our FO isn't some Fort Knox a lot of people foolishly claim. I'm not claiming to know who exactly the person is or attributing every one of them to our end.....but it would be one hell of an insanely ridiculous coincidence that nearly every major move the Raptors have made somehow leaked ahead of time and not a single one of them were due to themselves.

[alienchild]

i love the **** who show up on the first page to **** on the source of the report

it's a report from a legitimate source. either discuss the particulars or move on. no one is looking for your opinion on the reporter.

both this thread and the Poetl thread get crapped on by the same idiots who are miserable 24/7.

I'm the **** that showed up on the first page to **** on the source of the report. I'd do it again.

It's not a legitimate source. It's a click bait post from a person who started a feud by character assassinating Ned Bjorkgren, acting as the media mouthpiece of Kevin Pritchard, who didn't want to have slop all over his face for firing the guy he hired himself the year before, leaked to Fischer to start getting the dirty work done. I have no respect for Pritchard, and even less for Joke Fischer.

Nurse pushed back on Fischer's hit piece. Bjorkgen is back with Raptors. Anything that Fischer posts would not have information from Raptor sources, but would have Pritchard's fingerprints all over it.

I regret nothing. And if you think people are idiots, feel free to use the ignore function.

[pingpongrac]

It's naive at best to attribute them all to the "other" team, eventually people need to accept there's a pattern/commonality and it's the Raptors.

Possibly. There’s no real facts on that. It’s all speculation when it comes to who is the source lol


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So us wanting to draft Scottie Barnes was a rival executive which would make absolutely no sense?! Lol come on, at some point the denial needs to stop, clearly our FO isn't some Fort Knox a lot of people foolishly claim. I'm not claiming to know who exactly the person is or attributing every one of them to our end.....but it would be one hell of an insanely ridiculous coincidence that nearly every major move the Raptors have made somehow leaked ahead of time and not a single one of them were due to themselves.

Please. Two of those "leaks" were so far in advance (a year for Tucker and 8 months for Ibaka) that those could hardly be considered leaks. The report on the #4 pick was also a whole lot of hedging ("not 100% on Suggs," "could consider Barnes," "might trade back") and the Gasol trade leak was wrong (including Lowry for Conley). Even the Kawhi rumour was a whole lot of guessing, going on to say that "Toronto might trade Lowry or DeRozan" or they could try to keep both and adding Kawhi as part of a formidable trio.

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[PhilBlackson]

Possibly. There’s no real facts on that. It’s all speculation when it comes to who is the source lol


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So us wanting to draft Scottie Barnes was a rival executive which would make absolutely no sense?! Lol come on, at some point the denial needs to stop, clearly our FO isn't some Fort Knox a lot of people foolishly claim. I'm not claiming to know who exactly the person is or attributing every one of them to our end.....but it would be one hell of an insanely ridiculous coincidence that nearly every major move the Raptors have made somehow leaked ahead of time and not a single one of them were due to themselves.

Please. Two of those "leaks" were so far in advance (a year for Tucker and 8 months for Ibaka) that those could hardly be considered leaks. The report on the #4 pick was also a whole lot of hedging ("not 100% on Suggs," "could consider Barnes," "might trade back") and the Gasol trade leak was wrong (including Lowry for Conley). Even the Kawhi rumour was a whole lot of guessing, going on to say that "Toronto might trade Lowry or DeRozan" or they could try to keep both and adding Kawhi as part of a formidable trio.

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they just all happened to end up on the roster later, need we throw in Lowry to the Heat last trade deadline too. Just because the final trade isn't an exact replica of the rumor which anyone with a brain can comprehend would be subject to negotiations, doesn't mean it didn't leak....your self denial is sad yet absolutely hilarious.

[agkagk]

Bamba v Turner. Who you got? Both shooting similar percent from 3 although Bamba attempts probably lower. Also Bamba is a RFA this year but might be cheaper than whatever Turner signs for in a couple of years.

the idea of paying bamba 10 million a year for us to develop off the bench and start 20 times a year against bigger centers seems to fit us better.

If he starts in a few more games he’s guaranteed a 10.2M qualifying offer. He could be offered more although I don’t see anyone offering 18m or overpaying for his Serivces.

...13 millionish???? *shrugs*

I’m assuming we can get him in a relatively cheap-o sign and trade vs giving up real assets to get turner.


Side note: turner seems to have a rep for being a weak rebounder who gets bullied by other big centers. I don’t watch the pacers, but that’s out there.

[pingpongrac]

So us wanting to draft Scottie Barnes was a rival executive which would make absolutely no sense?! Lol come on, at some point the denial needs to stop, clearly our FO isn't some Fort Knox a lot of people foolishly claim. I'm not claiming to know who exactly the person is or attributing every one of them to our end.....but it would be one hell of an insanely ridiculous coincidence that nearly every major move the Raptors have made somehow leaked ahead of time and not a single one of them were due to themselves.

Please. Two of those "leaks" were so far in advance (a year for Tucker and 8 months for Ibaka) that those could hardly be considered leaks. The report on the #4 pick was also a whole lot of hedging ("not 100% on Suggs," "could consider Barnes," "might trade back") and the Gasol trade leak was wrong (including Lowry for Conley). Even the Kawhi rumour was a whole lot of guessing, going on to say that "Toronto might trade Lowry or DeRozan" or they could try to keep both and adding Kawhi as part of a formidable trio.

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they just all happened to end up on the roster later, need we throw in Lowry to the Heat last trade deadline too. Just because the final trade isn't an exact replica of the rumor which anyone with a brain can comprehend would be subject to negotiations, doesn't mean it didn't leak....your self denial is sad yet absolutely hilarious.

They all ended up on the roster...and how many of the other rumoured players over the same span haven't ended up on the roster? What about all of those leaks that amounted to nothing? I'd imagine that number would be significantly larger than 5 over 5 years.

[PhilBlackson]

Please. Two of those "leaks" were so far in advance (a year for Tucker and 8 months for Ibaka) that those could hardly be considered leaks. The report on the #4 pick was also a whole lot of hedging ("not 100% on Suggs," "could consider Barnes," "might trade back") and the Gasol trade leak was wrong (including Lowry for Conley). Even the Kawhi rumour was a whole lot of guessing, going on to say that "Toronto might trade Lowry or DeRozan" or they could try to keep both and adding Kawhi as part of a formidable trio.

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they just all happened to end up on the roster later, need we throw in Lowry to the Heat last trade deadline too. Just because the final trade isn't an exact replica of the rumor which anyone with a brain can comprehend would be subject to negotiations, doesn't mean it didn't leak....your self denial is sad yet absolutely hilarious.

They all ended up on the roster...and how many of the other rumoured players over the same span haven't ended up on the roster? What about all of those leaks that amounted to nothing? I'd imagine that number would be significantly larger than 5 over 5 years.

That wouldn't disprove anything lol

Trade negotiations don't always lead to a deal being finalized and other teams can win those deals, should be fairly common sense perhaps I'm overestimating you. However there was plenty of smoke to all of these and if you wanna live in one of the saddest states of denial that it was ALL merely coincidence, then go ahead and do that lol

[pingpongrac]

they just all happened to end up on the roster later, need we throw in Lowry to the Heat last trade deadline too. Just because the final trade isn't an exact replica of the rumor which anyone with a brain can comprehend would be subject to negotiations, doesn't mean it didn't leak....your self denial is sad yet absolutely hilarious.

They all ended up on the roster...and how many of the other rumoured players over the same span haven't ended up on the roster? What about all of those leaks that amounted to nothing? I'd imagine that number would be significantly larger than 5 over 5 years.

That wouldn't disprove anything lol

Trade negotiations don't always lead to a deal being finalized, should be fairly common sense perhaps I'm overestimating you. However there was plenty of smoke to all of these and if you wanna live in one of the saddest states of denial that it was ALL merely coincidence, then go ahead and do that lol

How does it not disprove anything? Most rumours are just journalists/reporters speculating on what move(s) a team might make to improve the team. Most of them (like acquiring Tucker, Ibaka and Gasol) were all moves that basically every Raptors fan on this board wanted to make for years before the trades were actually completed. Does that mean we all have sources too because we predicted somewhat obvious moves that would improve the team?

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[ParadoxJ]

Willie getting waived, cheap 6’9 center?

[kirkwood]

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/raptors-pacers-trade-rumour-og-anunoby-myles-turner?fbclid=IwAR3PCg6SfXk1tbrcR_2nMg75LN8mxt5HNd3CasVey0Bsaja_wV1BroQNS2E

Proof Masai has lost his mind

[c3luong]

Possibly. There’s no real facts on that. It’s all speculation when it comes to who is the source lol


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So us wanting to draft Scottie Barnes was a rival executive which would make absolutely no sense?! Lol come on, at some point the denial needs to stop, clearly our FO isn't some Fort Knox a lot of people foolishly claim. I'm not claiming to know who exactly the person is or attributing every one of them to our end.....but it would be one hell of an insanely ridiculous coincidence that nearly every major move the Raptors have made somehow leaked ahead of time and not a single one of them were due to themselves.

Please. Two of those "leaks" were so far in advance (a year for Tucker and 8 months for Ibaka) that those could hardly be considered leaks. The report on the #4 pick was also a whole lot of hedging ("not 100% on Suggs," "could consider Barnes," "might trade back") and the Gasol trade leak was wrong (including Lowry for Conley). Even the Kawhi rumour was a whole lot of guessing, going on to say that "Toronto might trade Lowry or DeRozan" or they could try to keep both and adding Kawhi as part of a formidable trio.

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The fact that this guy has to resort to these terrible examples of “leaks” is actually evidence against his point.

[ParadoxJ]

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/raptors-pacers-trade-rumour-og-anunoby-myles-turner?fbclid=IwAR3PCg6SfXk1tbrcR_2nMg75LN8mxt5HNd3CasVey0Bsaja_wV1BroQNS2E

Proof Masai has lost his mind

Yup if its true.

[dgr81]

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[will]

Willie getting waived, cheap 6’9 center?

Is he a significant upgrade over DJ WIlson?

I dunno...based on those 2 short stints from DJ with the Raps....

[HomieOmey]

If the price is right, Turner will be so perfect! This is reminding me a bit too much of all the Robert Covington rumors a while ago when there was almost too much interest in the guy and it took an overpay to get him.

[will]

If the price is right, Turner will be so perfect! This is reminding me a bit too much of all the Robert Covington rumors a while ago when there was almost too much interest in the guy and it took an overpay to get him.

I would be lead to believe that Indy is likely to deal Domantas before Myles.

[Kingsway_fan]

i would do trent, birch, filler for turner ...

[will]

i would do trent, birch, filler for turner ...

If Masai was also the Indy GM