Remind me why the Raptors traded Norman Powell

[Agimat]

Norm with the FVV stat line today

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Norm with the FVV stat line today

Minus the defense and assists then you might be onto something.

not sure why fred needs to be mentioned here...like i said, he lives rent free in two heads collectively.

[bape_lovers]

B2b champs in the bubble had he just sign for a year

I know this is a Norm thread but I never thought I'd say we dodged a bullet by not re-signing Kawhi.

[Los_29]

Norm with the FVV stat line today

Minus the defense and assists then you might be onto something.

not sure why fred needs to be mentioned here...like i said, he lives rent free in two heads collectively.

Yeah it’s actually unhealthy at this point.

[MoneyBall]

B2b champs in the bubble had he just sign for a year

I know this is a Norm thread but I never thought I'd say we dodged a bullet by not re-signing Kawhi.

If Kawhi had re-signed I doubt it would have been for the one season.

[tecumseh18]

B2b champs in the bubble had he just sign for a year

I know this is a Norm thread but I never thought I'd say we dodged a bullet by not re-signing Kawhi.

If Kawhi had re-signed I doubt it would have been for the one season.

It would have been 1+1 (PO), to get Kawhi to supermax eligibility status.

But clearly he wanted out. Immediately - in 2019. I'm sure even Dr. Strange will agree that there was no scenario in which Kawhi was gonna come back to help the Raps defend (and validate) their crown.

[mdenny]

I might be alone on this but imo if we allowed Norm the same opportunities as Pascal I think he'd be a much more potent offensive player (minus playmaking).

You're definitely not alone in thinking that. Frankly, given what Powell has showed over his career and particularly the last few years, I don't see how that should be a particularly controversial opinion either.

The Raptors FO had always clearly undervalued Powell every step of the way, to the point where they deluded themselves into thinking a random garden-variety chucker like Grent could easily replace what he does. It was a bad trade then and it's even worse now, not because the Raptors didn't keep him, but because the Raptors sold very low on him (without even realizing it) and then watched their cheap shiny new toy lose all of its luster within two years.

Of course, anyone like me who actually paid attention to Powell's entire career (down to even the teeny-tiny minutiae) knew that the idea of Powell being that easily replaceable was farcical. Not surprisingly, those who didn't figure it out back then are still spewing very bad takes when it comes to Powell - they don't know anything when it comes to him, and I doubt they ever will.

It was a cost cutting move plain and simple. Anyone thinking it had anything to do with age or potential or ceiling blah blah blah are idiots. The FO didnt want to pay powell what he was worth and thats all theres to it. They chose to pay Siakam and FVV instead, which as we all know was the WRONG choice.

Does norm even make much more than trent? How was it a strictly cost-cutting move when he makes the same money as trent? If anything....Trent is the more expensive option because norm was looking to get locked in for multiple years while trent is hunting his first big payday.

We "all know" what? Norm is a quality 6th man who has since been traded for scraps. Pascal has been all nba and fred's been an allstar lol.

[Los_29]

You're definitely not alone in thinking that. Frankly, given what Powell has showed over his career and particularly the last few years, I don't see how that should be a particularly controversial opinion either.

The Raptors FO had always clearly undervalued Powell every step of the way, to the point where they deluded themselves into thinking a random garden-variety chucker like Grent could easily replace what he does. It was a bad trade then and it's even worse now, not because the Raptors didn't keep him, but because the Raptors sold very low on him (without even realizing it) and then watched their cheap shiny new toy lose all of its luster within two years.

Of course, anyone like me who actually paid attention to Powell's entire career (down to even the teeny-tiny minutiae) knew that the idea of Powell being that easily replaceable was farcical. Not surprisingly, those who didn't figure it out back then are still spewing very bad takes when it comes to Powell - they don't know anything when it comes to him, and I doubt they ever will.

It was a cost cutting move plain and simple. Anyone thinking it had anything to do with age or potential or ceiling blah blah blah are idiots. The FO didnt want to pay powell what he was worth and thats all theres to it. They chose to pay Siakam and FVV instead, which as we all know was the WRONG choice.

Does norm even make much more than trent? How was it a strictly cost-cutting move when he makes the same money as trent? If anything....Trent is the more expensive option because norm was looking to get locked in for multiple years while trent is hunting his first big payday.

We "all know" what? Norm is a quality 6th man who has since been traded for scraps. Pascal has been all nba and fred's been an allstar lol.

Not often can I say that everything that poster said is incorrect. Literally everything. That is pretty impressive. Lol.

[Boogie!]

You're definitely not alone in thinking that. Frankly, given what Powell has showed over his career and particularly the last few years, I don't see how that should be a particularly controversial opinion either.

The Raptors FO had always clearly undervalued Powell every step of the way, to the point where they deluded themselves into thinking a random garden-variety chucker like Grent could easily replace what he does. It was a bad trade then and it's even worse now, not because the Raptors didn't keep him, but because the Raptors sold very low on him (without even realizing it) and then watched their cheap shiny new toy lose all of its luster within two years.

Of course, anyone like me who actually paid attention to Powell's entire career (down to even the teeny-tiny minutiae) knew that the idea of Powell being that easily replaceable was farcical. Not surprisingly, those who didn't figure it out back then are still spewing very bad takes when it comes to Powell - they don't know anything when it comes to him, and I doubt they ever will.

It was a cost cutting move plain and simple. Anyone thinking it had anything to do with age or potential or ceiling blah blah blah are idiots. The FO didnt want to pay powell what he was worth and thats all theres to it. They chose to pay Siakam and FVV instead, which as we all know was the WRONG choice.

Does norm even make much more than trent? How was it a strictly cost-cutting move when he makes the same money as trent? If anything....Trent is the more expensive option because norm was looking to get locked in for multiple years while trent is hunting his first big payday.

We "all know" what? Norm is a quality 6th man who has since been traded for scraps. Pascal has been all nba and fred's been an allstar lol.

Jamaal magloire was an allstar too. So was Antonio Davis. I guess that means they were definitively better players than Lamar Odom or Marcus Camby.

[ratul]

huge mistake trading normgod.

[Van_Trump]

Remind me why the Trailblazers traded Norman

[Airmiess]

Remind me why the Trailblazers traded Norman

The same reason they're in the position they're in right now hoping for Wemby.

They weren't going to compete for anything meaningful as constructed.

[ItsDanger]

27 pts tonight. Trent? Shopping for a new poncho.

[DreamTeam09]

Powell is one of the worst defenders in the league. DBook saw that guy and got cheesed they dared even putting him on Book. Green light powell, U got the green light to go right at him

[AkelaLoneWolf]

27 pts tonight. Trent? Shopping for a new poncho.

also allowed booker to score 47 points on him.

having said that, norm has handled himself well during these playoffs. but the catch22 is there. play him too many minutes he'll score you points but be a defensive liability and the team will lose.
he's a good role player but the more you play him the worse his impact becomes. he's best suited in his current role as off the bench player.
it will be interesting to see the changes that the clippers make this offseason. he might get a bigger role if one of PG or Kawhi are traded.

[mdenny]

27 pts tonight. Trent? Shopping for a new poncho.

also allowed booker to score 47 points on him.

having said that, norm has handled himself well during these playoffs. but the catch22 is there. play him too many minutes he'll score you points but be a defensive liability and the team will lose.
he's a good role player but the more you play him the worse his impact becomes. he's best suited in his current role as off the bench player.
it will be interesting to see the changes that the clippers make this offseason. he might get a bigger role if one of PG or Kawhi are traded.

At least Norm and Russ went out there and played with heart. Paul George sat out an elimination because of 'soreness' after posting workouts in which he appears to be going near max capacity smh.

[Los_29]

Actually felt bad for Norm out there. Got chewed up on defense in this series. Glad he was able to bring something offensively though. Good player who has worked extremely hard to get to where he's at. Similar to Fred in that regard. Nothing came easy.

[TGM]

Masai traded Norm because 90% of this board is obsessed with younger players and they’re potentially thinking that you can have a team of 5 super stars under the age of 25. Raptor fans seem to hate older players and want them to always get traded.

What happened in reality is I think they misread the market for what Norm was going to cost to resign and Gary seemed like a younger and cheaper option. Norm is awesome 6th man type of guy for any team

[ItsDanger]

LOL, a shorthanded Clippers team almost beat a healthy Phoenix team on the road last night and people are talking about defense? Oh man.

[deeps6x]

Big props to both Norm and Gary. Both were second round picks, and not a lot of those manage to stick around long, let alone become $20 million per year players.

Also for the season
17.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.8 apg
17.4 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 1.6 apg

Which one is Gary and which one is Norm?