frumble wrote:Reg00 wrote:Scrubb can play. He was the PG when they went on their second half blitz. Just watch the games people! It's obvious he belongs on the team and can play against international competition. Just because one player has NCAA experience means one is automatically better. Lot's of good players don't have NCAA experience.
I don't think people are saying Hanlan is better than Scrubb b/c he has NCAA experience. I think some people, including me, are saying that in evaluating how good a player is you need to take into account quality of competition. And the quality of competition is lower in the CIS than it is in the NCAA.
One way to see this is to look at guys who have played both. E.g., Simon Farine averaged 1.4 PPG for Wisconsin-Green Bay. He then transferred to Dalhousie and dominated. He averaged 16, 19, 22, and 19 PPG in his 4 seasons, was multiple all conference, and was all CIS.
Similarly, Henry Bekkering struggled for Eastern Washington, but then lit it up at U of Calgary.
Dejan Kravic transferred in the other direction. He averaged 16 PPG and 10 RPG a game for York, but managed only 9/5, and then 7/5, in his two seasons at Texas Tech.
Bol Kong was a huge disappointment at X, but still did a lot better there than he did at Gonzaga.
And going way back, Pasha Bains averaged only about 5 PPG in two seasons at Clemson, then led the CIS in scoring twice (and set the SFU scoring record) before finishing his college career with a great year at UBC.
(These are the only CIS/NCAA examples that come to my mind. If people have others, please share).
Maybe Scrubb is an exception. Maybe he would have put up 20 a game in the ACC. But history tells me that, all else equal, the level of competition is higher in the NCAA, and to take CIS performance and stats with a grain of salt.
Looking at other data, both Hanlan and Scrubb were poor in summer league.
And going back to their previous stints for Canada, Hanlan performed better.
All that being said, my primary beef isn't that Triano/Smart picked Scrubb over Hanlan, but that 1) they took a 6th big instead of a 5th guard, and that 2) they didn't give Hanlan much of a shot at Tuto Marchand. It seems they had already made up their minds.
Honestly man it's post like this that make it worth coming to these forums. Just stats combined with insight. This is the kind of stuff that should be AND1'd.
