D Smith: Bosh for Lee, Gallo (Update pg 9)

[disoblige]

Most likely in 5 yrs Bosh will still be valuable in the nba. His point is fair. He won't lose 30mil.

[trick]

Most likely in 5 yrs Bosh will still be valuable in the nba. His point is fair. He won't lose 30mil.

It really isn't. How many players play the 'what if' game as compared to guaranteed money?

[raps4life~]

Most likely in 5 yrs Bosh will still be valuable in the nba. His point is fair. He won't lose 30mil.

It really isn't. How many players play the 'what if' game as compared to guaranteed money?

You have to consider WINNING too, that is if Bosh gives a **** about winning.

Sure it would be a gamble, but by going to play with Rose or DWade he has a better chance to win and be a title contender.

[whysoserious]

Most likely in 5 yrs Bosh will still be valuable in the nba. His point is fair. He won't lose 30mil.

Bosh may or may not? Who knows at this point. We thought a lot of players would still have huge value 5-6 years down the road and the fact is majority actually drop, not hold their value.

The second point is that from all indication the next CBA will be less favourable to players, shorter max deals, shorter contracts and less percentage raises. So again, the best situation for Bosh is to cash in on the max deal now, whether it's with the Raptors or someone else.

[disoblige]

If his knee somehow blows up. He still does have 100mil.

While you have 100mil contract with blown up knees, are you going to regret the 30mil? Do you deserve it?

[McFurious1]

30 million is A LOT of money Bosh isn't going to wait another 6-7 years to collect his max value when he can get it now. LOL Wake Up.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Most likely in 5 yrs Bosh will still be valuable in the nba. His point is fair. He won't lose 30mil.

valuable; yes.

max money value; no

IMO, he takes the 130 from the raps then goes ring chasing on the next contract.

[whysoserious]

If his knee somehow blows up. He still does have 100mil.

While you have 100mil contract with blown up knees, are you going to regret the 30mil? Do you deserve it?

In the grand scheme of things 100 million vs. 130 million, at those numbers seems minimal. But how many players in any sport actually do that? They all will cash in when they can.

If he blows out his knee, what's better 130 million or 100 million. At the end of the day, one number is larger and anyone would want the most they can get.

[FSL43]

You also have to look at it from his agent's point of view. Wouldn't you rather have your commission based on a 130 million contract instead of one that was 100 million esp. if there is talk of a lock-out taking place after next year?

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but do teams not have to sign players a minimum of 3 years to retain their bird rights. If that is the casse, then the 3 years with a opt-out in the 3rd year won't work for teams that want to circumvent and minimize the 30 million dollar difference.

[Madmax 134]

I have NO idea what some of you are arguing.... NO CERTIFIED AGENT IS GOING TO TELL HIS CLIENT TO TAKE LESS GUARANTEED YEARS

[Komodo]

The Raptors actually have $30 million worth of leverage. If Bosh doesn't want max money I have no problem letting him go where ever. WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO TAKE CRAP BACK simply to help Bosh's bank account. If Bosh is fine making $30 mil less in New York, then good riddance. BC has more leverage in this situation than most give him credit for. This is more than likely Chris' last really big pay-day and make no mistake, he will want every single penny.

+1

[disoblige]

nevermind. The point was chris bosh is most likely wont lose 30mil all together.

You guys are right that he is taking a big risk. Since he can have a career ending injury.

[raps4life~]

you guys are acting like its all risk and no reward. there is a reward, he has a chance to play for a highly competitive team and make several title runs!.

[whysoserious]

you guys are acting like its all risk and no reward. there is a reward, he has a chance to play for a highly competitive team and make several title runs!.

There is some reward for taking less money but again, he could sign for 100 million dollars with another team, make a few runs and comes up short of winning a title, now what? He lost whatever money he could have made guaranteed and still didn't win. There's just too many variables to say one way or another. I can't think of one player who was in the max money category that took less to go to another team as a free agent.

I still believe he will sign with Toronto because at the end of the day you don't know what's out there. If he signs with Toronto he gets his max money and gives the organization one last chance to build. If in a year or two it's not working out he can then ask for a trade to a contender.

[dTox]

It's unbelievable how people think that our defense would stay the same if we had swapped Bosh and Lee, if some of those people actually bothered to watch some of the Knicks' games or even looked up his ranking on defense they would have some sort of a clue at how much worst our defense will get (even though I thought it would be impossible, but a Lee + Andrea front court would certainly have that potential to reach record low's in defense). You can say Bosh may be an average or below average defender, but his man to man D is pretty good, and Lee has absolutely no defense. With a GM already committed to a offense first strategy adding one of the worst defender to pair up with a horrible rebounding and help defense centres, along with an idiot coach.....I don't even want to imagine how bad this team would be....just say no to Lee

[There There]

you guys are acting like its all risk and no reward. there is a reward, he has a chance to play for a highly competitive team and make several title runs!.

Which is why if Bosh wants to leave, he'll give Colangelo a list of teams he feels will give him a chance of several title runs and Colangelo will go out and negotiate the best possible return he can get from those teams.

Bosh is not passing up a 6th guaranteed year. That would be all risk, no reward. He will take the 6th year guaranteed, and most likely have a player option on it so that if he is healthy enough for one last long term contract, he will opt out at that point. If he is not healthy enough to get one last long term contract to make up the guaranteed amount of the final year, he will not opt out and instead collect his 6th year of guaranteed money.

And since there are multiple teams who will be interested in Bosh, Colangelo will be in a position to negotiate. That does not mean he will receive equal value for Bosh; he won't. But he won't be forced to accept garbage contracts either. This is why both Bosh and Colangelo speak of it as a partnership and they will work together; Bosh wants his 6th year and knows that Colangelo needs to be in a position to be able to negotiate favourable return in order to provide that 6th year. No one is screwing anybody else here, it's just not how this works.

[McFurious1]

^ if Bosh wants to go to NY then you have to take a Lee package.

[ATLTimekeeper]

you guys are acting like its all risk and no reward. there is a reward, he has a chance to play for a highly competitive team and make several title runs!.

He can do that and get his money.

[There There]

^ if Bosh wants to go to NY then you have to take a Lee package.

Not true.

If Colangelo either wants Lee, or thinks Lee is more valuable as an asset than a TPE, then he will. Otherwise he takes a TPE as the return, and New York trades cap space for Bosh. A TPE would still be a more valuable asset than just letting Bosh walk as it would give Colangelo the opportunity to trade for additional players over the next year without having to worry about cap room.

[Crazy-Canuck]

^ if Bosh wants to go to NY then you have to take a Lee package.

Only if we have a third team willing to take him; if not I rather take Curry and one of the young players.

Lee will come with a big price tag if he agrees to a sign and trade to Toronto.