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2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th

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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#281 » by lander » Sun May 25, 2014 7:01 pm

Love Aaron Gordon, but I think of him as 3. In the NBA it's the position you can defend and he's not big enough to defend 4s, but he's quick enough to defend NBA SF.
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Post#282 » by lander » Sun May 25, 2014 7:03 pm

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Loso04 wrote:Saw this on hoopshype

One executive, who didn't want to be quoted to protect his team's draft strategy, said he preferred Gordon to the two other big men in the same range (Julius Randle of Kentucky and Noah Vonleh of Indiana), citing Gordon's potential impact defensively.



Masai??? He wants to trade into the lower lotto to grab him :)

:lol: wish, but I think he goes higher.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#283 » by kidr1211 » Sun May 25, 2014 7:09 pm

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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#284 » by The_Hater » Sun May 25, 2014 7:15 pm

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Volcano wrote:Ross alone probably wouldn't net a top 15 pick around the league. Elfrid Payton, for example, is projected to be top 15-20. Most teams likely wouldn't trade him for Ross.


You can't be serious. Suddenly picks in the mid-teens have demonstrably, guaranteed more upside than Ross? I cry for this board.


The irony of your comment is if Masai did trade Ross for a pick in that range you'd immediately start telling us how great the new player is, how much better he'll be than Ross and how Brilliant our GM is. I'm pretty sure the Raps have never made a 1st rd pick who you didn't project to be a star.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#285 » by raptor jesus » Sun May 25, 2014 7:32 pm

Volcano wrote:Ross alone probably wouldn't net a top 15 pick around the league. Elfrid Payton, for example, is projected to be top 15-20. Most teams likely wouldn't trade him for Ross.


You make a broad statement and then cite a very narrow example to validate it. Ross probably would net a mid first rounder. In a league trending towards shooting and defensive versatility, a 23 year old 40% 3-point shooter capable of guarding multiple positions and going off for big games definitely has good value. Most teams would likely swap one way players like James Young and Hood, or a smaller guard like Gary Harris (all projected mid-first round), for Ross.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#286 » by Undefeated » Sun May 25, 2014 7:33 pm

Which analyst said Jabari was overweight? He looked like he lost a bit of weight in that video.
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Post#287 » by UnderdogRaptors » Sun May 25, 2014 7:36 pm

Undefeated wrote:Which analyst said Jabari was overweight? He looked like he lost a bit of weight in that video.

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Post#288 » by JN » Sun May 25, 2014 7:44 pm

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Kid Canada wrote:I have been a duke fan for about 10 plus years. an incredible shot blocker? come on he got about 1 a game.


I didn't mean blocking shots literally but challenging shots. If you're a Duke game then you should know he is in fact a very good rim protector given Duke's lack of interior presence. You know how he did against Clemson then


Clemson is a small team, that tries to methodically get it inside without any real finishers other than Mcdaniel with any size. They are a bad offensive team, and Parker looking good on the weakside against them doesn't mean much to me. Parker is more athletic then his build, so not to say its a weakness either... I am just not going to say it was a big strength.


In the two games Duke played against Syracuse, Parker was not a rim protector inside - at all. I never feared him at all on the defensive end (offence was a different matter). Fair and Grant had their best games all year against Duke, as they were able to dribble drive from the elbow better then they had all year, and were not really contested once they beat their man. Parker was a big part of that (either as the man they beat off the dribble or when he came to help the defender who was beat).

Duke's defence was horrible this year. Its defensive efficiency ranked 12th out of 15th in the ACC. Noted, Parker had to play a position bigger then he should. A mix of 4/5 rather than 3/4... on the right NBA team he can get away with an adequate level of defence and ask the back end to help him. At Duke, the defensive system really relied on Parker which was not really fair to him.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#289 » by Dr Positivity » Sun May 25, 2014 8:00 pm

lander wrote:Love Aaron Gordon, but I think of him as 3. In the NBA it's the position you can defend and he's not big enough to defend 4s, but he's quick enough to defend NBA SF.


Tough call whether he's a 3 or 4. Definitely can defend the 3 well, but if he's someone who can't score from farther out than Faried, I don't know if that's do-able at the 3 nowadays.
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Post#290 » by Roland Brice » Sun May 25, 2014 8:11 pm

Sandman88 wrote:Ross is going to be special, no way I part with Ross unless its a top 5 pick.


Special or a very good role player? There are people on both ends of the spectrum in this thread boosting Ross both ways, good and bad. He's not going to be "special" and there aren't guys in the 15-20 range with more potential. If anything, guys in the 15-20 range have similar potential but definitely not more. Let's keep things in perspective on both sides.
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Post#291 » by Dr Positivity » Sun May 25, 2014 8:14 pm

Inglis would be a beautiful pick at 20... we can put him on 3s immediately, or space the floor at 4... and Wow. Much upside
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Post#292 » by Sandman88 » Sun May 25, 2014 8:22 pm

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Sandman88 wrote:Ross is going to be special, no way I part with Ross unless its a top 5 pick.


Special or a very good role player? There are people on both ends of the spectrum in this thread boosting Ross both ways, good and bad. He's not going to be "special" and there aren't guys in the 15-20 range with more potential. If anything, guys in the 15-20 range have similar potential but definitely not more. Let's keep things in perspective on both sides.


The sky is the limit, I guess we don't know what he'll be, but I think he can be an all-star.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#293 » by Roland Brice » Sun May 25, 2014 8:39 pm

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Post#294 » by Indeed » Sun May 25, 2014 8:45 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Inglis would be a beautiful pick at 20... we can put him on 3s immediately, or space the floor at 4... and Wow. Much upside


I like Inglis, but I would wait for the combine in 2 weeks. Besides, he is projected in the 2nd round, so perhaps we don't need to grab him in a hurry.

I do wish to draft both Payton and Porzingis/Payne, but I don't know if we can get all 3 rookies.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#295 » by whatamoron » Sun May 25, 2014 8:51 pm

When any of the players picked 10 to 20 in this years draft score 50 points in a NBA game, then
you would have a legitimate argument for trading Ross for one of those picks.
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Post#296 » by thunderforce » Sun May 25, 2014 8:54 pm

No way that Inglis is there for our second pick , he will be gone by then probably to a team with multiple picks .
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#297 » by Roland Brice » Sun May 25, 2014 8:55 pm

whatamoron wrote:When any of the players picked 10 to 20 in this years draft score 50 points in a NBA game, then
you would have a legitimate argument for trading Ross for one of those picks.


There's no problem in defending Ross, but to use one 50 point game as leverage is weak especially since we lost that game. He got hot that game, plain and simple. You can't use one 50 point game to defend a guy averaging 11ppg.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#298 » by Roland Brice » Sun May 25, 2014 8:56 pm

thunderforce wrote:No way that Inglis is there for our second pick , he will be gone by then probably to a team with multiple picks .


This. I'd take him at 20.
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Post#299 » by Indeed » Sun May 25, 2014 9:05 pm

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Double Helix wrote:Pretty solid KJ McDaniels vs Rodney Hood video:

http://youtu.be/q35do8NdkO0


Great video! McDaniels absolutely dominated Hood!
People are sleeping on this kid...there is a reason why GM's said he's the biggest sleeper in the draft.
I'm confident Masai will draft him if he's available. He's that SF we desperately need.


Surprised McDaniels is quicker than I thought, but I would like to see McDaniels vs James Young.
Hood to me is not a SF, he can't defend SF due to his shorter wingspan, and he doesn't have the quickness as compare to other SG.

I would still have Inglis over McDaniels, particularly I value court vision and passing on the perimeter with Jonas in the paint.
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Re: 2014 NBA Draft Prospects Thread #5 | Raps picking 20th 

Post#300 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun May 25, 2014 9:06 pm

About a month away from the NBA draft.... WOW.
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