Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player

[AbbieCat2008]

I don’t get it. Lowry, FVV, McCaw were bad...but what in the world did TD do that people think he gets a pass here? They were all bad tonight. Nobody could hit a shot.

But what did McCaw do to get so much playing time? Is there any quantifiable result that warrants this?

Well, first off, this was a different game that my quoted post was about and I think you didn't know that....but what did he do tonight? Stay healthy at the moment and I don't think TD was great again. I don't see many, or any, other options.

And fwiw I am not the Patrick McCaw Defense League! He wasn't great either, but meh.

I think the problem solves itself when he's a bench player again.

Agree. TD2 was bad tonight. He was forcing unnecessary layups.
But would have wanted to see TD2 get more minutes so he could grow his game more. I see more potential in TD2 than McCaw.

I honestly thought with Fred down, we would see more of TD2.

Sight, it's just another bad offensive game for us (again). It was almost comical to see Siakim, Gasol, Powell and Fred in pretty suits tonight on the bench. It was like the Raptors were playing garbage minutes the whole game with Kyle and a bunch of undrafted and G-leaguers.

[Johnny Bball]

But what did McCaw do to get so much playing time? Is there any quantifiable result that warrants this?

Well, first off, this was a different game that my quoted post was about and I think you didn't know that....but what did he do tonight? Stay healthy at the moment and I don't think TD was great again. I don't see many, or any, other options.

And fwiw I am not the Patrick McCaw Defense League! He wasn't great either, but meh.

I think the problem solves itself when he's a bench player again.

Agree. TD2 was bad tonight. He was forcing unnecessary layups.
But would have wanted to see TD2 get more minutes so he could grow his game more. I see more potential in TD2 than McCaw.

I honestly thought with Fred down, we would see more of TD2.

Sight, it's just another bad offensive game for us (again). It was almost comical to see Siakim, Gasol, Powell and Fred in pretty suits tonight on the bench. It was like the Raptors were playing garbage minutes the whole game with Kyle and a bunch of undrafted and G-leaguers.

Yeah. The McCaw, Brissett, Boucher, Johnson combo was plus 12 and 13 until they ended it. At least that was something good out of the game. I wouldn't have left them in longer either though.

I dunno... I feel like we got screwed, but it never should have come to that. We didn't execute on offense the last 4 minutes with 4 points. That was the difference.

[AbbieCat2008]

Well, first off, this was a different game that my quoted post was about and I think you didn't know that....but what did he do tonight? Stay healthy at the moment and I don't think TD was great again. I don't see many, or any, other options.

And fwiw I am not the Patrick McCaw Defense League! He wasn't great either, but meh.

I think the problem solves itself when he's a bench player again.

Agree. TD2 was bad tonight. He was forcing unnecessary layups.
But would have wanted to see TD2 get more minutes so he could grow his game more. I see more potential in TD2 than McCaw.

I honestly thought with Fred down, we would see more of TD2.

Sight, it's just another bad offensive game for us (again). It was almost comical to see Siakim, Gasol, Powell and Fred in pretty suits tonight on the bench. It was like the Raptors were playing garbage minutes the whole game with Kyle and a bunch of undrafted and G-leaguers.

Yeah. The McCaw, Brissett, Boucher, Johnson combo was plus 12 and 13 until they ended it. At least that was something good out of the game. I wouldn't have left them in longer either though.

I dunno... I feel like we got screwed, but it never should have come to that. We didn't execute on offense the last 4 minutes with 4 points. That was the difference.

The only two positive take away from this game are:
1) Thomas is back!! The first shot was definitely "rusty", but he did nail two three's. Portland literally had a guy chase him around every corner of the game. Great sign! That's the Thomas effect we want.

2) Brissett continues to get better. Great athleticism, speed and basketball IQ. He is like a combination of RHJ and OG at this point. Good to see him get more minutes.

I was literally laughing at my TV when I saw McCaw running the point with Stanley Johnson, Brissett, Boucher and Matt. Boy, it was like watching a G-league game. It wasn't pretty, but they did well.

[mdenny]

I'm not reading anything else typed in here.

McCaw is playing GREAT. He is ALWAYS in the right place. He is ALWAYS annoying his guard. He has become increasingly steady on the ball coming up the court.

You people out out of your minds. Look at his minutes. Look at his team's record. And Shush.

[J-Roc]

Daily reminder fans have no clue.

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Daily reminder one good game doesn’t mean anything.

You had to wait for one poor pass to suggest someone isn't an NBA player?? lol Didn't we see that Kyle Lowry guy drive into traffic and get stuffed.

[SHFT]

Patrick McCaw
We stared in awe
3 rings in 3 years
Was supposed to quell our pg depth fears
But half way through the season
I dont see any reason
To stare in awe
At Patrick McCaw

Fin

[Randle McMurphy]

McCaw is playing GREAT. He is ALWAYS in the right place. He is ALWAYS annoying his guard. He has become increasingly steady on the ball coming up the court.

How does anyone come up with this nonsense? He’s statistically one of the worst players in the entire league.

[TheWave]

McCaw is playing GREAT. He is ALWAYS in the right place. He is ALWAYS annoying his guard. He has become increasingly steady on the ball coming up the court.

How does anyone come up with this nonsense? He’s statistically one of the worst players in the entire league.

In the face of facts, logic and reason... His post shines brightly as a becon to all shills world over.

[team edward]

I assume in part McCaw is being showcased as a potential trade piece. "You don't need a late first round pick, you're getting McCaw!"

[ATLTimekeeper]

Defense,
Isolation, .9 possessions and 1.20 ppp. 13th percentile.
PnR ballhandler, 2.9 possessions and 1.13 ppp, 6th percentile.

He doesn't contest many shots, but does lower %s when he does.
He doesn't rebound at all, for someone his size his rebounding is currently historically around the likes of Kyle Korver and physically weak shooters. But to add to that he doesn't box out much at all, either.
He does get deflections and steals, which the team values.

This isn't to say I agree with the OP, because I don't. But he hasn't played well on either end of the floor. The defense is worse with him on the floor, and the offense is significantly worse. And we're at a near calendar year of him playing with the Raptors, all net negative. As a young player, I'm totally fine being patient and seeing if he can find his game. I can appreciate the upside, but I disagree with the veteran-like minutes he's hauling, even with all the injuries.

[dTox]

This Kyle Lowry expression last game captures everything that went through most of our minds last night

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[beeshake]

This is NOT the way

[LoveMyRaps]

I've never hated a player more than this bum. He's not an NBA caliber player. He should be playing in the G-League or overseas.
His defense is super overrated and is average at best.

[Tanner]

McCaw is playing GREAT. He is ALWAYS in the right place. He is ALWAYS annoying his guard. He has become increasingly steady on the ball coming up the court.

How does anyone come up with this nonsense? He’s statistically one of the worst players in the entire league.

Any time someone praises McCaw on this forum, it's all generalities. "He gets in the right spot", he "plays hard", etc, etc. Nothing about his actual game, or the numbers, or his impact on the damn court. It's all intangibles that can't be quantified, so therefore cannot be proven right or wrong.

There is not a single part of his game that has upside. Dude will be out of the league when his contract runs out, and people here are thinking Nurse is playing 3D chess by playing him. It's embarrassing.

[ArchDPNY]

McCaw would have a few plays where "ok that wasn't bad" but those moments don't happen very often, and you normally reserve that to the Boucher's, Brissett's, Hernandez' type of players in the lineup. Not for starter-type minutes, nor even crunch time minutes. The problem is, McCaw is not the one putting himself on the floor, it should be up to the coaching staff: there's Nurse, Sergio, their own analytics and video coordinators, etc. that should be able to point out to the team that McCaw ain't it.

[dTox]

McCaw is playing GREAT. He is ALWAYS in the right place. He is ALWAYS annoying his guard. He has become increasingly steady on the ball coming up the court.

How does anyone come up with this nonsense? He’s statistically one of the worst players in the entire league.

Any time someone praises McCaw on this forum, it's all generalities. "He gets in the right spot", he "plays hard", etc, etc. Nothing about his actual game, or the numbers, or his impact on the damn court. It's all intangibles that can't be quantified, so therefore cannot be proven right or wrong.

There is not a single part of his game that has upside. Dude will be out of the league when his contract runs out, and people here are thinking Nurse is playing 3D chess by playing him. It's embarrassing.

This argument is eerily similar to the days of Kevin O'Neill, when he fell in love with playing Michael Curry, who brought nothing to the table and yet people were trying to make sense of it.

[OakleyDokely]

"There's 82 games and for me these are just practices and playoffs is when it's time to lace them up"

-- 2x champ Kawhi
-- 3x champ McCaw

[Basketball_Jones]

MCCaw is the new Patrick Patterson without any good advanced stats

[ruckus]

My thing with Nurse and McCaw is that our coaching staff has done so many things right that something this glaring must have another layer of reasoning behind it.

With the lack of options, McCaw is the safer choice, I guess? Maybe there are some internal team dynamics preventing one of the younger guys taking that 5th starter role?

I don't know. I just find it hard to believe that out of all things, Nurse's blindspot is Patrick f'n McCaw.

[Lord_Zedd]

MCCaw is the new Patrick Patterson without any good advanced stats

Patterson without the advanced stats and taking all those minutes is more like Rasul Butler and Michael Curry - who provide nothing on both ends. Funny thing is Butler actually was a threat beyond the arc, but completely cratered once he put on a Raptor jersey.

These coaches pets of years past are Patrick McCaw.