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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#281 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Sep 2, 2020 1:45 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:I'd give up a lot for Simmons.

Would absolutely love him on this team. We could use him against a team like the Celtics.


I like Simmons too but he's kinda redundant with Pascal or Giannis

I guess you can move Pascal for him but Simmons has a lot of the same issues w/ youth on his side i guess

Problem with Philly trades is I have hard time they'd want to trade to us if given the option with someone else
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Post#282 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Sep 2, 2020 1:46 pm

If the Rockets lose today, I wonder what the availability on James Harden will be?

One of the best creators in the league, MVP level player 31 and on contract until 23.

Id consider trading Pascal for him, and a potential Giannis team up could be big although maybe there's beef there
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Post#283 » by Raptors_128 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 2:03 pm

Dalek wrote:Earlier this week, Scoop B claims Raps have interest in Oladipo.

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I honestly love the fit. Him and OG both played on IU back in the day. He is a dynamic two-way player who is a depressed asset just like Kawhi was.

I always think it takes a full year to fully recover from an injury so he should return back to form in December. I'd give up Lowry plus prospects to get him. Lowry is an institution for Toronto, but if they are likely investing in FVV then getting a true slasher like Dipo makes sense.

Indy would likely be interested in a strong veteran leader like Lowry, especially since Dipo is in his final year. If Toronto offers young players like Terence Davis it might be a homerun deal for Indy.


Sign-and-trade Fred (+ 2021 Raps 1st?) for Oladipo.

I wouldn’t keep Oladipo though I would flip him to another team like Brooklyn or the Knicks. He’s not staying here, the dude loves Miami and is close with D-wade.

The Knicks are trying to accelerate their rebuild. I think they’ll try to pitch to AD on Oladipo and CP3. We could maybe swing RJ Barrett.

Brooklyn is looking for a big 3 so they might be willing to send Levert + Allen for that 3rd star.

This all banks on the Pacers liking Fred a lot more than injury prone Levert or RJ Barrett‘s potential.
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Post#284 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 2:06 pm

Dalek wrote:Earlier this week, Scoop B claims Raps have interest in Oladipo.

Read on Twitter


I honestly love the fit. Him and OG both played on IU back in the day. He is a dynamic two-way player who is a depressed asset just like Kawhi was.

I always think it takes a full year to fully recover from an injury so he should return back to form in December. I'd give up Lowry plus prospects to get him. Lowry is an institution for Toronto, but if they are likely investing in FVV then getting a true slasher like Dipo makes sense.

Indy would likely be interested in a strong veteran leader like Lowry, especially since Dipo is in his final year. If Toronto offers young players like Terence Davis it might be a homerun deal for Indy.


Hmm, yes I would trade Lowry and Terence Davis to the Pacers for Oladipo. If the Pacers are sick and tired of being kicked out of the first round, Lowry may be able to push them over the top with his vet leadership. Rumors are Oladipo has no plans of re-signing with the Pacers, so I think he is available at the right price. If Masai and Vic have a under the table 'wink wink' deal that Vic wants to come to Toronto and will sign an extension, I can see us making a push for him.

Either way, I feel like we really need to move on from our Lowry and Fred backcourt - way too small for the playoffs.
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Post#285 » by canz55 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 4:15 pm

The way this series is going you have to at least consider blowing it up because I don't see a lot that can be salvaged.

Let Ibaka and Gasol walk - trade Lowry for picks while only taking on a salary that has an extra year (no more than a year or else it ain't worth it) and obviously re-sign Fred.

I'd start 2021 with Siakam and Boucher playing together in the frontcourt. Good enough to make the playoffs and potentially sell Giannis on our African project - if Giannis doesn't bite at the end of 2021 then you strip the team even more for picks and just start a full-blown rebuild.
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Post#286 » by nabbs » Wed Sep 2, 2020 4:25 pm

Lot of you are clueless if you think we are trading Kyle unless he specifically asks
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Post#287 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Sep 2, 2020 4:37 pm

nabbs wrote:Lot of you are clueless if you think we are trading Kyle unless he specifically asks


Even if you ignore the legacy stuff, I bet Lowrys giant 21 expiring is worth more than anything we could probably get for him

Although i did consider the Nets wanting a big 3 and maybe getting Levert/Allen for him (if Giannis extends that is)
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Post#288 » by nabbs » Wed Sep 2, 2020 4:41 pm

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nabbs wrote:Lot of you are clueless if you think we are trading Kyle unless he specifically asks


Even if you ignore the legacy stuff, I bet Lowrys giant 21 expiring is worth more than anything we could probably get for him

Although i did consider the Nets wanting a big 3 and maybe getting Levert/Allen for him (if Giannis extends that is)



I would like Kyle to be our backup point guard tbh. IF we do go big star hunting in 2021 then I want Kyle as our backup. He'd be perfect. To me if you want to go in and do a mini blowup then offer up Davis, Norm and picks for Dipo. If Dipo doesnt work out you let him walk and wait for Giannis. If it does work out, resign Dipo and maybe that lures Giannis.

Again if management says we cant rely on Pascal yet we need to get some help in the half court, then pull the trigger for Dipo and figure out the rest later. The package for Dipo would not mortgage our future at all
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Post#289 » by HeadtopChunes » Wed Sep 2, 2020 4:48 pm

nabbs wrote:
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nabbs wrote:Lot of you are clueless if you think we are trading Kyle unless he specifically asks


Even if you ignore the legacy stuff, I bet Lowrys giant 21 expiring is worth more than anything we could probably get for him

Although i did consider the Nets wanting a big 3 and maybe getting Levert/Allen for him (if Giannis extends that is)



I would like Kyle to be our backup point guard tbh. IF we do go big star hunting in 2021 then I want Kyle as our backup. He'd be perfect. To me if you want to go in and do a mini blowup then offer up Davis, Norm and picks for Dipo. If Dipo doesnt work out you let him walk and wait for Giannis. If it does work out, resign Dipo and maybe that lures Giannis.

Again if management says we cant rely on Pascal yet we need to get some help in the half court, then pull the trigger for Dipo and figure out the rest later. The package for Dipo would not mortgage our future at all


i'd like to keep kyle around too tbh

Id give up one first and norm easy for Dipo, TD im iffy on. but i dont think im as sold on Dipo being as good as he was as you are. Even before his injury his off the dribble numbers had regressed and he didn't look as good as 18 Dipo
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Post#290 » by nabbs » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:03 pm

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nabbs wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
Even if you ignore the legacy stuff, I bet Lowrys giant 21 expiring is worth more than anything we could probably get for him

Although i did consider the Nets wanting a big 3 and maybe getting Levert/Allen for him (if Giannis extends that is)



I would like Kyle to be our backup point guard tbh. IF we do go big star hunting in 2021 then I want Kyle as our backup. He'd be perfect. To me if you want to go in and do a mini blowup then offer up Davis, Norm and picks for Dipo. If Dipo doesnt work out you let him walk and wait for Giannis. If it does work out, resign Dipo and maybe that lures Giannis.

Again if management says we cant rely on Pascal yet we need to get some help in the half court, then pull the trigger for Dipo and figure out the rest later. The package for Dipo would not mortgage our future at all


i'd like to keep kyle around too tbh

Id give up one first and norm easy for Dipo, TD im iffy on. but i dont think im as sold on Dipo being as good as he was as you are. Even before his injury his off the dribble numbers had regressed and he didn't look as good as 18 Dipo



I dont think so either but that's a low price if you can get even 90% of Dipo
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#291 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:14 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:If the Rockets lose today, I wonder what the availability on James Harden will be?

One of the best creators in the league, MVP level player 31 and on contract until 23.

Id consider trading Pascal for him, and a potential Giannis team up could be big although maybe there's beef there


Lol they'll be bff if on same team especially on raps
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Post#292 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:20 pm

How can we get Beal while keeping Lowry
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Post#293 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:21 pm

you literally add in a guy like Beal to this team and we likely win the championship
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Post#294 » by baller16 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:27 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:How can we get Beal while keeping Lowry


Its gonna have to be centered around Siakam+Picks or FVV+OG/Powell+Picks. Hard to tell if Washington will even budge, but Wall is coming back and if he's a shell of himself, its going to be rebuild time for them
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Post#295 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:36 pm

nabbs wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
nabbs wrote:Lot of you are clueless if you think we are trading Kyle unless he specifically asks


Even if you ignore the legacy stuff, I bet Lowrys giant 21 expiring is worth more than anything we could probably get for him

Although i did consider the Nets wanting a big 3 and maybe getting Levert/Allen for him (if Giannis extends that is)



I would like Kyle to be our backup point guard tbh. IF we do go big star hunting in 2021 then I want Kyle as our backup. He'd be perfect. To me if you want to go in and do a mini blowup then offer up Davis, Norm and picks for Dipo. If Dipo doesnt work out you let him walk and wait for Giannis. If it does work out, resign Dipo and maybe that lures Giannis.

Again if management says we cant rely on Pascal yet we need to get some help in the half court, then pull the trigger for Dipo and figure out the rest later. The package for Dipo would not mortgage our future at all


Not sure if the Pacers will take Norm, Davis, and picks for Dipo though; they can probably do better with other offers. Only way Pacers will deal with us is if Dipo demands a trade to Toronto (maybe it can happen? Who knows).

I don't think Kyle wants to play back up to anyone; not for the next few seasons anyways. In fact, wouldn't surprise me if he wanted out if we put him in a back up role behind FVV. For that reason, we may be able to trade his $30 mill contract.
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Post#296 » by nabbs » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:46 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
nabbs wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
Even if you ignore the legacy stuff, I bet Lowrys giant 21 expiring is worth more than anything we could probably get for him

Although i did consider the Nets wanting a big 3 and maybe getting Levert/Allen for him (if Giannis extends that is)



I would like Kyle to be our backup point guard tbh. IF we do go big star hunting in 2021 then I want Kyle as our backup. He'd be perfect. To me if you want to go in and do a mini blowup then offer up Davis, Norm and picks for Dipo. If Dipo doesnt work out you let him walk and wait for Giannis. If it does work out, resign Dipo and maybe that lures Giannis.

Again if management says we cant rely on Pascal yet we need to get some help in the half court, then pull the trigger for Dipo and figure out the rest later. The package for Dipo would not mortgage our future at all


Not sure if the Pacers will take Norm, Davis, and picks for Dipo though; they can probably do better with other offers. Only way Pacers will deal with us is if Dipo demands a trade to Toronto (maybe it can happen? Who knows).

I don't think Kyle wants to play back up to anyone; not for the next few seasons anyways. In fact, wouldn't surprise me if he wanted out if we put him in a back up role behind FVV. For that reason, we may be able to trade his $30 mill contract.



I just wonder what the trade market for him is. Ultimately agent plays a role and I think Dipo, should he want out, would provide a list of teams.
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Post#297 » by Dalek » Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:03 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
Dalek wrote:Earlier this week, Scoop B claims Raps have interest in Oladipo.

Read on Twitter


I honestly love the fit. Him and OG both played on IU back in the day. He is a dynamic two-way player who is a depressed asset just like Kawhi was.

I always think it takes a full year to fully recover from an injury so he should return back to form in December. I'd give up Lowry plus prospects to get him. Lowry is an institution for Toronto, but if they are likely investing in FVV then getting a true slasher like Dipo makes sense.

Indy would likely be interested in a strong veteran leader like Lowry, especially since Dipo is in his final year. If Toronto offers young players like Terence Davis it might be a homerun deal for Indy.


Hmm, yes I would trade Lowry and Terence Davis to the Pacers for Oladipo. If the Pacers are sick and tired of being kicked out of the first round, Lowry may be able to push them over the top with his vet leadership. Rumors are Oladipo has no plans of re-signing with the Pacers, so I think he is available at the right price. If Masai and Vic have a under the table 'wink wink' deal that Vic wants to come to Toronto and will sign an extension, I can see us making a push for him.

Either way, I feel like we really need to move on from our Lowry and Fred backcourt - way too small for the playoffs.


I agree that the backcourt, while great throughout the regular season, it tends to be a bit weird to expect Lowry to play the role of the Shooting Guard and average 20 points against elite playoff talent. You need a scorer to help take the load off Siakam and FVV to create so much off the dribble. Dipo is normally a very efficient scorer who I think will regain his form.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#298 » by 2muchTLC » Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:15 pm

forcing FVV and lowry to play together makes them both worse
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Post#299 » by coca_scola » Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:55 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:If the Rockets lose today, I wonder what the availability on James Harden will be?

One of the best creators in the league, MVP level player 31 and on contract until 23.

Id consider trading Pascal for him, and a potential Giannis team up could be big although maybe there's beef there


The reffing the Raps typically get (or allegedly depending on your view) would make Harden completely useless on our team :lol:
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Post#300 » by coca_scola » Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:57 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:How can we get Beal while keeping Lowry


2 firsts, Norm, TD and filler? I doubt they want a sign and trade for FVV.

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