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Pointgod wrote:

agkagk wrote:

CazOnReal wrote:Barrett for P-Will is absolutely disgusting to even suggest.

Pwill reminds me of tim thomas

His athletic tools, size and all around skill set looks good on his resume

But it’s going to get him over paid when hes just a very vanilla but solid bench player.

Tim Thomas was at least a semi productive player for a season or two. I have no idea what the hell Pat Will actually does well.

Not to mention he's always injured...im done with injury prone players.

Pointgod wrote:

agkagk wrote:

Pointgod wrote:
I mean it’s pretty simple. Raptors should be in asset accumulation mode. They could be a salary dumping ground for a ton of teams. Boucher, Brown and Mc Daniels is 37 million in expiring contracts if they’re willing to take on longer term salary.

If you can’t find a taker for Browm use you caspace to get picks.

I kinda expect masai to do the opposite and shop brown + expirings + picks for a veteran starting sf

Trading more picks for a non allstar player is the last thing we should do.

Its all hypothetical

Being completely objective, 360 from a air balloon looking down:

Assuming we dont lose in the draft;

Masai has the 5th pick, brown, boucher and mcdaniels expirying 36-ish million in expirings and a decent cache of picks at his disposal.

Whats masai’s first instinct?

Its what is brown, 5th pick, salary plus futures net on the the trade market?


Dude, the reason we turned late picks into all nba talent is because they developed in a winning culture.

Barnes is our lebron esque 1
Rj is our 2
Quick has all the talent in the wold but needs to learn how to execute in the half court.

Brown + 6 + loose change =‘s jimmy butler (for example)

Eff the play in or rebuilding


Rj quick jimmy scottie jakub

Is a top 6 team in the east

Literally, there are maybe 7 teams tops that can execute in the half court in the nba

Rj, jimmy, scottie and jakub are all dominate 2 way half court players.

The playoffs are PLAYED IN THE HALF COURT

Sign a veteran pg to mentor quick

And LETS GO

The calibre of teams in the league is at historic lows (examples: what are dallas and atlanta even doing?).

I guarantee you masai is thinking lets go, cause he should be.

Were literally one piece away and a back up pg away and we have the assets to get that piece!

Lets get back to being a continual quasi contender and turning scrub prospects into all nba talents.

If the offseason breaks right, were there.

Rj - dick
Quick - monte morris
Wiggins/butler - acbaji
Barnes - kelly
Jakub - rim runner

Plus a bunch of nwora’s and 30th overall picks

Thats equal to or greater than the current pacers.

Im just saying, its there for the taking.

Red_Claw wrote:Milwaukee may want to shake things up.

Bruce Brown + Chris Boucher + Least favorable of 2026 FRP
For
Kris Middleton

gives Milwaukee cap flexibility after this season without losing much talent.

Quickley/Lowry
Middleton/Dick
RJ/ Ochai
Scottie/ 19th pick
Poeltl/ Olynyk

Pray for Sarr at top 6. Make Poeltl or Olynyk available.

I have negative interest in Middleton, as well as in helping MIL out of their cap hell.

ontnut wrote:

Red_Claw wrote:Milwaukee may want to shake things up.

Bruce Brown + Chris Boucher + Least favorable of 2026 FRP
For
Kris Middleton

gives Milwaukee cap flexibility after this season without losing much talent.

Quickley/Lowry
Middleton/Dick
RJ/ Ochai
Scottie/ 19th pick
Poeltl/ Olynyk

Pray for Sarr at top 6. Make Poeltl or Olynyk available.

I have negative interest in Middleton, as well as in helping MIL out of their cap hell.

they need to give us picks to take on Middleton.

Jacob Poeltl for the Memphis 9th pick.

Sign Claxton.

billy_hoyle wrote:Jacob Poeltl for the Memphis 9th pick.

Sign Claxton.

No one (else) is giving a lotto pick for Poetl.

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:

ontnut wrote:

Red_Claw wrote:Milwaukee may want to shake things up.

Bruce Brown + Chris Boucher + Least favorable of 2026 FRP
For
Kris Middleton

gives Milwaukee cap flexibility after this season without losing much talent.

Quickley/Lowry
Middleton/Dick
RJ/ Ochai
Scottie/ 19th pick
Poeltl/ Olynyk

Pray for Sarr at top 6. Make Poeltl or Olynyk available.

I have negative interest in Middleton, as well as in helping MIL out of their cap hell.

they need to give us picks to take on Middleton.

Which is exactly the strategy the Raps should be following now. Without the bloated salary of a 2024 top 6 pick, we can potentially have a lot of cap space this summer to absorb bad contracts and future picks. Not sure if Bucks have any future picks, tho'.

tecumseh18 wrote:

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:

ontnut wrote:I have negative interest in Middleton, as well as in helping MIL out of their cap hell.

they need to give us picks to take on Middleton.

Which is exactly the strategy the Raps should be following now. Without the bloated salary of a 2024 top 6 pick, we can potentially have a lot of cap space this summer to absorb bad contracts and future picks. Not sure if Bucks have any future picks, tho'.

yup. any high paid scrub that can get us future picks is the way to go right now.

IQ / Dunn or Lowry
Barrett / Dick
PWill / Ochai
Scottie / Kelly
Jak / JV

tecumseh18 wrote:

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:

ontnut wrote:I have negative interest in Middleton, as well as in helping MIL out of their cap hell.

they need to give us picks to take on Middleton.

Which is exactly the strategy the Raps should be following now. Without the bloated salary of a 2024 top 6 pick, we can potentially have a lot of cap space this summer to absorb bad contracts and future picks. Not sure if Bucks have any future picks, tho'.

Bucks used up all their picks and swaps in the Jrue and then subsequent Lillard trades. They're still paying off the Jrue trade, pickwise as NO controls their draft every year until 2027, and the after that POR controls their draft until 2030. Bucks are SUPER F'd right now as their assets are not very valuable in trade, and their aging FAST.

Honestly, if they screw up big again next year in the playoffs, I expect to hear lots of rumblings about a potential Giannis trade because they simply have zero assets to improve their team with, and at their age, they're only going to get worse. Similar to Miami and Butler.

JRoy wrote:

billy_hoyle wrote:Jacob Poeltl for the Memphis 9th pick.

Sign Claxton.

No one (else) is giving a lotto pick for Poetl.

If anyone would, it would be Memphis. But I agree, we were desperate and somewhat foolish with the protections.

ontnut wrote:

JRoy wrote:

billy_hoyle wrote:Jacob Poeltl for the Memphis 9th pick.

Sign Claxton.

No one (else) is giving a lotto pick for Poetl.

If anyone would, it would be Memphis. But I agree, we were desperate and somewhat foolish with the protections.

Masai would be crazy to give up Poeltl for just about any pick in this draft. Many don't seen to wanna accept it (consistent with their anti-Masai narrative), but the 2024 draft really is that bad.

tecumseh18 wrote:

ontnut wrote:

JRoy wrote:
No one (else) is giving a lotto pick for Poetl.

If anyone would, it would be Memphis. But I agree, we were desperate and somewhat foolish with the protections.

Masai would be crazy to give up Poeltl for just about any pick in this draft. Many don't seen to wanna accept it (consistent with their anti-Masai narrative), but the 2024 draft really is that bad.

I'm just glad we have our future flexibility back. Just hope we make some better moves moving forward now that we've (mostly) decided on a direction.

If the Warriors give you 1st rd Pick to get off Andrew Wiggin's contract (For Bruce Brown)....do we do that trade?

That way we keep our team competitive with Wiggins but also keep adding to our asset base. I really think Masai is going hard after the Canadians lmao

Asif16 wrote:If the Warriors give you 1st rd Pick to get off Andrew Wiggin's contract (For Bruce Brown)....do we do that trade?

That way we keep our team competitive with Wiggins but also keep adding to our asset base. I really think Masai is going hard after the Canadians lmao

Wiggins is not a negative contract.

Hes a top 5, most likely top 3 3 and d wing

Hes in his prime and locked into a decent salary.

He had a bad 2.5 months to start the year.

Go look at his 2024 stats and compare it to his 3 year average.

19th pick, bruce brown and boucher for wiggins and moody.


I think its highway robbery for us but looks fair on paper


Lol

agkagk wrote:

Asif16 wrote:If the Warriors give you 1st rd Pick to get off Andrew Wiggin's contract (For Bruce Brown)....do we do that trade?

That way we keep our team competitive with Wiggins but also keep adding to our asset base. I really think Masai is going hard after the Canadians lmao

Wiggins is not a negative contract.

Hes a top 5, most likely top 3 3 and d wing

Hes in his prime and locked into a decent salary.

He had a bad 2.5 months to start the year.

Go look at his 2024 stats and compare it to his 3 year average.

19th pick, bruce brown and boucher for wiggins and moody.


I think its highway robbery for us but looks fair on paper


Lol

Apparently Bruce can't be traded along with any other player. Could be wrong.

RaptorLakerJay wrote:

agkagk wrote:

Asif16 wrote:If the Warriors give you 1st rd Pick to get off Andrew Wiggin's contract (For Bruce Brown)....do we do that trade?

That way we keep our team competitive with Wiggins but also keep adding to our asset base. I really think Masai is going hard after the Canadians lmao

Wiggins is not a negative contract.

Hes a top 5, most likely top 3 3 and d wing

Hes in his prime and locked into a decent salary.

He had a bad 2.5 months to start the year.

Go look at his 2024 stats and compare it to his 3 year average.

19th pick, bruce brown and boucher for wiggins and moody.


I think its highway robbery for us but looks fair on paper


Lol

Apparently Bruce can't be traded along with any other player. Could be wrong.

Why you gotta break my heart for?

Can anyone confirm?


Cheers!

RaptorLakerJay wrote:

agkagk wrote:

Asif16 wrote:If the Warriors give you 1st rd Pick to get off Andrew Wiggin's contract (For Bruce Brown)....do we do that trade?

That way we keep our team competitive with Wiggins but also keep adding to our asset base. I really think Masai is going hard after the Canadians lmao

Wiggins is not a negative contract.

Hes a top 5, most likely top 3 3 and d wing

Hes in his prime and locked into a decent salary.

He had a bad 2.5 months to start the year.

Go look at his 2024 stats and compare it to his 3 year average.

19th pick, bruce brown and boucher for wiggins and moody.


I think its highway robbery for us but looks fair on paper


Lol

Apparently Bruce can't be traded along with any other player. Could be wrong.

He can, the moratorium on the whole "he can't be traded with other players" thing is simply a leaguewide rule that you need to wait 3 months after receiving a player before being able to trade a player with another player. It's why Jrue could be traded by the Blazers after the Dame trade but not with any other salary once the Dame/Jrue trade was official.

Bruce + Boucher is an option and it very easily frees up $33 million in cap space.

Ex:

NOTE: This isn't a trade proposal, I just wanted to visually demonstrate the combining of players is an option.

What y’all think about Klay Thompson in a raps jersey?

It would take a little renouncing but financially, I think we can get there. He only missed 5 games this year and played almost 30mpg. His 41% from three seems perfect next to RJ/Barnes/IQ. We’d probably need to overpay and I’ve been vocal about keeping our financial flexibility, but is this potentially a buy-low opportunity? Like, 3 years/70 million and I think I’m happy. He would play off the ball all night and give us that beautiful spacing.

If we don't get one of McCain, Collier or Carter in the draft we should sign Tyus Jones instead of bringing back Gary.