Shams: Bobby Promoted to "Final Decision Maker of Basketball (still GM) " update pg. 27

[Tor_Raps]

I can see this year playing out status quo, Raps hiring a new president in 2026 and Bobby and Dan to be gone.

Which wouldn't be a bad thing given the situation. Let's see how the season goes and if we perform above expectations then you give Bobby the job. If we stay around the 36 win mark or worse then hire a new President and let them decide what to do.

[Quattro]

Well Robbers has owned the Jays since early 2,000's so let's call it a 22 plus years finals drought under their watch. Didn't Shapiro get burned in Moneyball?

No, it’s Hollywood embellishment. Billy Beane hires wunderkind Paul DePodesta away from Shapiro. Truth is DePodesta joined the A’s in 1999, three years before Shapiro became Cleveland’s GM.

Shapiro had the right to veto portrayal of his character, but to his credit, he didn’t because he allowed creative license for the sake of the movie.

The Moneyball book however took jabs at Blue Jays’ legendary GM Pat Gillick, if I remember correctly.

It's been a long time since i read that book but I don't remember Lewis taking shots at Gillick. That would have stuck in my head as it doesn't get any better than Gillick when it comes to running a baseball team.

[Raps Next GM]

Well Robbers has owned the Jays since early 2,000's so let's call it a 22 plus years finals drought under their watch. Didn't Shapiro get burned in Moneyball?

No, it’s Hollywood embellishment. Billy Beane hires wunderkind Paul DePodesta away from Shapiro. Truth is DePodesta joined the A’s in 1999, three years before Shapiro became Cleveland’s GM.

Shapiro had the right to veto portrayal of his character, but to his credit, he didn’t because he allowed creative license for the sake of the movie.

The Moneyball book however took jabs at Blue Jays’ legendary GM Pat Gillick, if I remember correctly.

It's been a long time since i read that book but I don't remember Lewis taking shots at Gillick. That would have stuck in my head as it doesn't get any better than Gillick when it comes to running a baseball team.

If I recall correctly, there were a couple of criticisms of his old school mentality towards player evaluation and his refusal to adopt the moneyball approach, relying instead on old scouts’ instincts.
It wasn’t anything overly insulting but I do recall him being singled out as a symbol of old baseball.

I don’t have the book but am trying to find references to him from it.

[Raps Next GM]

No, it’s Hollywood embellishment. Billy Beane hires wunderkind Paul DePodesta away from Shapiro. Truth is DePodesta joined the A’s in 1999, three years before Shapiro became Cleveland’s GM.

Shapiro had the right to veto portrayal of his character, but to his credit, he didn’t because he allowed creative license for the sake of the movie.

The Moneyball book however took jabs at Blue Jays’ legendary GM Pat Gillick, if I remember correctly.

It's been a long time since i read that book but I don't remember Lewis taking shots at Gillick. That would have stuck in my head as it doesn't get any better than Gillick when it comes to running a baseball team.

If I recall correctly, there were a couple of criticisms of his old school mentality towards player evaluation and his refusal to adopt the moneyball approach, relying instead on old scouts’ instincts.
It wasn’t anything overly insulting but I do recall him being singled out as a symbol of old baseball.

I don’t have the book but am trying to find references to him from it.

Google search AI:

“In Michael Lewis's Moneyball, Pat Gillick is portrayed as a traditional scout who, despite his success, is seen as resistant to the new analytical approach to player evaluation favored by Billy Beane and his staff. The book characterizes Gillick as a "bouncer" who prioritizes keeping people out of the game based on his subjective assessments, rather than embracing data-driven insights. He's presented as someone who relies heavily on traditional scouting methods and gut feeling, rather than statistical analysis.”


And from https://personalfantasylibrary.wordpress.com/2018/10/30/moneyball/#:~:text=Here's%20Lewis'%20searing%2C%20scornful%20takedown,He's%20a%20bouncer.

“Here’s Lewis’ searing, scornful takedown of “the Seattle GM and Grand-Poobah of the Raccoon Lodge,” Pat Gillick: “[J]ust another unathletic guy who’s assigned himself the job of keeping people out of the game who, in his view, have no business inside. He’s not a writer. He’s a bouncer.”

[Raps Next GM]

Well Robbers has owned the Jays since early 2,000's so let's call it a 22 plus years finals drought under their watch. Didn't Shapiro get burned in Moneyball?

No, it’s Hollywood embellishment. Billy Beane hires wunderkind Paul DePodesta away from Shapiro. Truth is DePodesta joined the A’s in 1999, three years before Shapiro became Cleveland’s GM.

Shapiro had the right to veto portrayal of his character, but to his credit, he didn’t because he allowed creative license for the sake of the movie.

The Moneyball book however took jabs at Blue Jays’ legendary GM Pat Gillick, if I remember correctly.

Interesting tidbit that I just stumbled upon which shows the extent of the movie’s embellishment. Jonah Hill’s character is based on Paul Depodesta, however the character is named Peter Brand. “The portrayal in Moneyball was so inaccurate that DePodesta himself asked for the name change.”

https://screenrant.com/moneyball-true-story-baseball-movie-how-accurate/#:~:text=This%20game%20was%20pivotal%20in,%2C%20player%20development%2C%20and%20recruitment.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Raptors president search

There hasn’t been a lot of talk around MLSE’s search for a new president to replace Ujiri, though a number of league insiders I have spoken with believe that the team’s general manager, Bobby Webster, is the leading candidate for the role. “Bobby’s to lose” was a line I heard around Las Vegas, though how much of that was informed speculation and how much was deductive reasoning — Webster is a well-liked and well-respected executive both within the MLSE and across the NBA, so why mess with it? — was hard to discern.

Webster is interested in the job, which is the first step. Moving Webster up a peg to president explains why one source said that the names they had heard that the search — led by CAA Executive Search — had reached out to were some lower-tier executives, most of whom would make more sense as additions to the Raptors front office's overall horsepower working for someone like Webster rather than in a team president role.

But there are some candidates with long and varied NBA experience, also. One name that MLSE has done background work on is Chicago Bulls general manager Marc Eversley, a Brampton native who was an assistant general manager with the Raptors under Bryan Colangelo before stints in Philadelphia, Washington and now Chicago.

Eversley is a board member with Canada Basketball and has a long-standing relationship with Webster and the experience to undertake some of the duties of a team president, even if Webster was president by title. Eversley was a key figure in the Raptors drafting DeMar DeRozan. One source said that Eversley’s ties to the Raptors and Canadian basketball were intriguing, in addition to his background with multiple NBA teams. Indiana Pacers general manager Chad Buchanan is also on MLSE’s radar.

Former Raptors head coach and current Detroit Pistons executive Dwane Casey has thrown his hat in the ring and has met with MLSE president Keith Pelley, per sources. Another NBA figure of note, I’m told, Pelley has met with is former Sacramento Kings general manager Monte McNair. The 2022-23 NBA executive of the year was let go by the Kings in April after leading Sacramento to one of its most successful runs in franchise history.

But an interesting name to watch is Kevin Pritchard, the long-time Indiana Pacers president who led the club to the NBA Finals this past June and the Eastern Conference Finals in 2024. One league insider suggested to me that the Pacers executive is MLSE’s preferred choice, although lateral moves when executives are under contract with other teams are often har

[WuTang_CMB]

Eversely blows. Tf they thinking. Casey would be there for face and thats it. Doesnt feel serious to me. Lateral for Pritchard would be hard unless he pushed. Just give the role to Bobby.

[Kreamy]

First choice is Bobby.

If they look outside, Kevin Pritchard or Dennis Lindsey would be great options.

Hell no to Eversely and Casey!

[NinjaBro]

Casey? Are we serious? Might as well bring back FVV while we're at it.

[HumbleRen]

Pritchard is my first choice there. Bobby second. The rest I wouldn’t even entertain.

[SpezNc]

Pritchard is my first choice there. Bobby second. The rest I wouldn’t even entertain.

For Pritchard would a draft compensation be necessary?

I think at this point I prefer if it’s Bobby.

[MavCarter]

Fired one of the best execs in the league and interviewing dwane casey . Other amazing candidates are BCs right hand man(who bulls fans hate), the dude who traded hali for sabonis, and a dude who did a great job building treadmill teams while he was GM in indy. If any of these dudes are hired over bobby im going to lose my ****

[canada_dry]

Fired one of the best execs in the league and interviewing dwane casey . Other amazing candidates are BCs right hand man(who bulls fans hate), the dude who traded hali for sabonis, and a dude who did a great job building treadmill teams while he was GM in indy. If any of these dudes are hired over bobby im going to lose my ****

I think the way it was reported was bobby moves into president role and brampton/bulls guy moves into vacant bobby role.

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[SpezNc]

Fired one of the best execs in the league and interviewing dwane casey . Other amazing candidates are BCs right hand man(who bulls fans hate), the dude who traded hali for sabonis, and a dude who did a great job building treadmill teams while he was GM in indy. If any of these dudes are hired over bobby im going to lose my ****

The Keith Pelly special !

[ForeverTFC]

Eversley, Casey and McNair.

Wonder how the Ed Rogers fanboys dress this up for us and if the Fire Masai crew still believes any change is good change.

[Mr Funk]

Eversely blows. Tf they thinking. Casey would be there for face and thats it. Doesnt feel serious to me. Lateral for Pritchard would be hard unless he pushed. Just give the role to Bobby.

Same. Just promote Bobby and Tolzman which would allow Masai's team to continue drafting, developing and building towards a contender.

I'm cautiously optimistic this it what will ensue. From what Pelley shared at that disgraceful press conference, apparently everyone in the front office or management was resigned. So if this is indeed the case, Ed just had a personal beef with Masai (money and probably Maga-inspired racism).

[bluerap23]

Man those are some weak a$$ candidates. Pritchard isn't going anywhere. The rest are a major downgrade. We looking at Bulls and Kings execs? Like WTAF!

[Lord_Zedd]

Well, Eversley and McNair know how to get an extra home game or two after 41 games.

It's what we deserve for chasing away one of the best executives we've ever had in Toronto

[PushDaRock]

Pritchard is my first choice there. Bobby second. The rest I wouldn’t even entertain.

For Pritchard would a draft compensation be necessary?

I think at this point I prefer if it’s Bobby.

Absolutely, why would Indy let him go for nothing?

[PushDaRock]

I want them to hire Casey just for the lulz