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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#301 » by Kabookalu » Mon Mar 7, 2016 11:37 pm

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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#302 » by Throwback24 » Tue Mar 8, 2016 12:10 am

C_Money wrote:
yassillio wrote:I don't get Casey man. They had Harden guard Patteron all of the 4th quarter. You know damn well he doesn't like to post up or take advantage of his height. Put JJ in and let him abuse him in the post. Casey got outcoached yet again but an interim coach .


You want JJ creating his own offence? That's a disaster waiting to happen bro.


That's a lie, he's one of our best post players and iso wing players. He may not always convert but he gets high quality shot opportunities.
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#303 » by C_Money » Tue Mar 8, 2016 2:15 am

Throwback24 wrote:
C_Money wrote:
yassillio wrote:I don't get Casey man. They had Harden guard Patteron all of the 4th quarter. You know damn well he doesn't like to post up or take advantage of his height. Put JJ in and let him abuse him in the post. Casey got outcoached yet again but an interim coach .


You want JJ creating his own offence? That's a disaster waiting to happen bro.


That's a lie, he's one of our best post players and iso wing players. He may not always convert but he gets high quality shot opportunities.


He turns the ball over more times then not. A guy like him should be getting garbage buckets.
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#304 » by alienchild » Tue Mar 8, 2016 2:42 am

No harm, no foul. CLE lost to MEM tonight and MEM was missing, Gasol, Randolph and Conley. The fat lady hasn't sung yet!
Everybody is losing their freaking minds. Nutbars and wingnuts have infested this forum. We've become a public lavatory without cleaning staff.
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#305 » by yellowknifer » Tue Mar 8, 2016 8:11 am

I don't think anyone expects a team from the East to win it all. But we could conceivably still make the Finals. That would be huge for us regardless of winning.
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#306 » by SalamiNcheese » Wed Mar 9, 2016 6:56 pm

RaptorsFTL wrote:
SalamiNcheese wrote:Derozan doesn't play very well against defenders who touch him and rough him. Beverly, Butler,Porter absolutely shut him down. Leonard would too. He needs to learn to play smart through contact. He does it against all the weak defenders. I still don't understand why Lowry didn't get some touches at end of game?

This is not really true:

Washington - 26.5, 5, 3.5, 0.54 TS (4 games)
SA - 28, 6, 4, 0.756 TS (1 game)
Houston - 19, 7, 6, TS 0.588 (1 game)
Chicago - 21.7, 5, 4.7, TS 0.512 (3 games)

Look, players have bad endings to games in an 82 game season. Demar has had plenty of great finishes, and last night was a bad one, but to make these grandiose statements, without any factual backing is weak.



You are throwing stats like you didn't watch games in past. Derozan can score some buckets early in game or when someone is on the bench... I am saying when the defense gets serious and touch him up he gets rattled and starts to play worse than normal... AKA mental toughness. Stats do not tell the whole story. Watch the **** games. It just hasn't happened in one game. I am not being a derozan hater since he is our 2nd best player... I am just stating the obvious that he has to work on toughness when the game is on the line.

Your stats are **** weak along with your brain and eyes apparently. I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#307 » by Steelo Green » Wed Mar 9, 2016 7:14 pm

SalamiNcheese wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:
SalamiNcheese wrote:Derozan doesn't play very well against defenders who touch him and rough him. Beverly, Butler,Porter absolutely shut him down. Leonard would too. He needs to learn to play smart through contact. He does it against all the weak defenders. I still don't understand why Lowry didn't get some touches at end of game?

This is not really true:

Washington - 26.5, 5, 3.5, 0.54 TS (4 games)
SA - 28, 6, 4, 0.756 TS (1 game)
Houston - 19, 7, 6, TS 0.588 (1 game)
Chicago - 21.7, 5, 4.7, TS 0.512 (3 games)

Look, players have bad endings to games in an 82 game season. Demar has had plenty of great finishes, and last night was a bad one, but to make these grandiose statements, without any factual backing is weak.



You are throwing stats like you didn't watch games in past. Derozan can score some buckets early in game or when someone is on the bench... I am saying when the defense gets serious and touch him up he gets rattled and starts to play worse than normal... AKA mental toughness. Stats do not tell the whole story. Watch the **** games. It just hasn't happened in one game. I am not being a derozan hater since he is our 2nd best player... I am just stating the obvious that he has to work on toughness when the game is on the line.

Your stats are **** weak along with your brain and eyes apparently. I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.


lol, I enjoy how people talk about watching the game, and yet, clearly they do not watch the games, as they throw out lackadaisical and uninformed posts about people to watch the game. "WATCH THE GAME, DON'T SHOW ME STATS"

Demar vs San Antonio, 4th quarter:

6 points in final 4 minutes

I thought Leonard shut him down?

Demar against Washington on Jan 8th (lazy to go into more, first that popped up), 4th quarter:

10 points

Porter clearly not shutting down...

Actually I will get into it, 6 points in fourth in the CoJo game winner game with 4 in final 3 minutes, which were key, and the 2 FT's he made with 5 seconds left gave us the chance.

The other game he had 5 in the fourth, and it was a low scoring quarter for us, and was still the leader on our team in that regard in the fourth, and can't knock him for free throws and not being jumpers, it is a part of his game that he exploits opponents on.

Chicago and Houston, yeah, some bad games,

How about Indiana? 10 in fourth?

OKC? 10 in fourth and he literally willed us to victory that game.

I could keep going on, but clearly the person not watching the game is the one making statements without any evidence, vs the person making the statements with game evidence. Maybe you should re-read the play-by-play for the non-sense you keep posting.

I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.[/


Haha....
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#308 » by SalamiNcheese » Wed Mar 9, 2016 7:26 pm

RaptorsFTL wrote:
SalamiNcheese wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:This is not really true:

Washington - 26.5, 5, 3.5, 0.54 TS (4 games)
SA - 28, 6, 4, 0.756 TS (1 game)
Houston - 19, 7, 6, TS 0.588 (1 game)
Chicago - 21.7, 5, 4.7, TS 0.512 (3 games)

Look, players have bad endings to games in an 82 game season. Demar has had plenty of great finishes, and last night was a bad one, but to make these grandiose statements, without any factual backing is weak.



You are throwing stats like you didn't watch games in past. Derozan can score some buckets early in game or when someone is on the bench... I am saying when the defense gets serious and touch him up he gets rattled and starts to play worse than normal... AKA mental toughness. Stats do not tell the whole story. Watch the **** games. It just hasn't happened in one game. I am not being a derozan hater since he is our 2nd best player... I am just stating the obvious that he has to work on toughness when the game is on the line.

Your stats are **** weak along with your brain and eyes apparently. I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.


lol, I enjoy how people talk about watching the game, and yet, clearly they do not watch the games, as they throw out lackadaisical and uninformed posts about people to watch the game. "WATCH THE GAME, DON'T SHOW ME STATS"

Demar vs San Antonio, 4th quarter:

6 points in final 4 minutes

I thought Leonard shut him down?

Demar against Washington on Jan 8th (lazy to go into more, first that popped up), 4th quarter:

10 points

Porter clearly not shutting down...

Actually I will get into it, 6 points in fourth in the CoJo game winner game with 4 in final 3 minutes, which were key, and the 2 FT's he made with 5 seconds left gave us the chance.

The other game he had 5 in the fourth, and it was a low scoring quarter for us, and was still the leader on our team in that regard in the fourth, and can't knock him for free throws and not being jumpers, it is a part of his game that he exploits opponents on.

Chicago and Houston, yeah, some bad games,

How about Indiana? 10 in fourth?

OKC? 10 in fourth and he literally willed us to victory that game.

I could keep going on, but clearly the person not watching the game is the one making statements without any evidence, vs the person making the statements with game evidence. Maybe you should re-read the play-by-play for the non-sense you keep posting.

I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.[/


Haha....


I was in mexico during the SA game.

And I never said stats are useless so that is an invalid argument.

Washington this year hasn't even been good. Regular season doesn't count for much.

How about the last two years in playoffs when Defense actually tries. He hasn't shot particularly well.

Even wiggins made him struggle at times.

When the whistle is loose, he struggles. Period.
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Re: PG: Overachievers 

Post#309 » by Steelo Green » Wed Mar 9, 2016 8:04 pm

SalamiNcheese wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:
SalamiNcheese wrote:

You are throwing stats like you didn't watch games in past. Derozan can score some buckets early in game or when someone is on the bench... I am saying when the defense gets serious and touch him up he gets rattled and starts to play worse than normal... AKA mental toughness. Stats do not tell the whole story. Watch the **** games. It just hasn't happened in one game. I am not being a derozan hater since he is our 2nd best player... I am just stating the obvious that he has to work on toughness when the game is on the line.

Your stats are **** weak along with your brain and eyes apparently. I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.


lol, I enjoy how people talk about watching the game, and yet, clearly they do not watch the games, as they throw out lackadaisical and uninformed posts about people to watch the game. "WATCH THE GAME, DON'T SHOW ME STATS"

Demar vs San Antonio, 4th quarter:

6 points in final 4 minutes

I thought Leonard shut him down?

Demar against Washington on Jan 8th (lazy to go into more, first that popped up), 4th quarter:

10 points

Porter clearly not shutting down...

Actually I will get into it, 6 points in fourth in the CoJo game winner game with 4 in final 3 minutes, which were key, and the 2 FT's he made with 5 seconds left gave us the chance.

The other game he had 5 in the fourth, and it was a low scoring quarter for us, and was still the leader on our team in that regard in the fourth, and can't knock him for free throws and not being jumpers, it is a part of his game that he exploits opponents on.

Chicago and Houston, yeah, some bad games,

How about Indiana? 10 in fourth?

OKC? 10 in fourth and he literally willed us to victory that game.

I could keep going on, but clearly the person not watching the game is the one making statements without any evidence, vs the person making the statements with game evidence. Maybe you should re-read the play-by-play for the non-sense you keep posting.

I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.[/


Haha....


I was in mexico during the SA game.

And I never said stats are useless so that is an invalid argument.

Washington this year hasn't even been good. Regular season doesn't count for much.

How about the last two years in playoffs when Defense actually tries. He hasn't shot particularly well.

Even wiggins made him struggle at times.

When the whistle is loose, he struggles. Period.


You are throwing stats like you didn't watch games in past


I was in mexico during the SA game.


Beverly, Butler,Porter absolutely shut him down. Leonard would too


I don't take stupidity lightly sorry.[/

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