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Post#301 » by Raps in 4 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:24 pm

Danny1616 wrote:
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raptor jesus wrote:
The Raps have made the playoffs for five straight years under Masai; three 50 win seasons; four playoff series wins; one trip to the ECFs (two games from the Finals).

Of course the ultimate goal is to win a championship, but just one of the those accomplishments listed above, let alone all of them, seemed unfathomable before before Masai showed up. Sure he's made mistakes along the way, no GM/President bats 1.000, but overall he's done a fantastic job overseeing what is, by far, the best run in franchise history.


It's a run that hasn't led to bigger things. Since making the ECF in 2016, we've regressed every year.

The novelty wears off eventually. At some point, you expect forward movement. If not, then it should be back to the drawing board with a new direction.


So when the Mavericks made the finals in 2006 and then lost in the first round in 2007 after having the best record league they should went complete rebuild?

So when the Spurs got bounced out of the playoffs in 2008 and 2009 and then got swept by the Suns in the second round in 2010 they should have went complete rebuild?

Under your logic any top team that doesn't make the finals should rebuild.


The Mavs and Spurs had future HOFers on their teams. It's much easier to turn things around with Dirk or Duncan on your team
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Post#302 » by BigShaq34 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:24 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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Yeezus_ wrote:It's wild that alot of people on here repeat that as if it's a funny joke.

He's been riding BC's core since he got here in 2013. BC drafted Demar, traded for Lowry, and drafted JV.

Those are the main guys on the team.



umm there has been nothing wrong with doing the thing that has made the team successful each every consecutive season. BC just could not define the role players to get around that core. Masai identified it and got them either FA or draft. why the hell do you think we got to 59 wins this year?

again, BC's core is fine - they probably did need that true alpha player to get there but its fine.

59 wins is about as equivalent my ****

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Post#303 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:25 pm

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BigShaq34 wrote:masai the trust fund baby fraud is still evaluating with his **** blackberry with no balls to make a big move and take a risk.

That stupid trust fund overpaid for ibaka and powell what a **** moron

Evaluate the team into a top 4 seed the last 4 seasons.

masai is good at making tredmill teams not championship teams, look at what he did in denver


sheesh, 3 years was all he had and you call that a treadmill team. :noway:

no wonder our fanbase is so impatient.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#304 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm

BigShaq34 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
BigShaq34 wrote:He's been riding BC's core since he got here in 2013. BC drafted Demar, traded for Lowry, and drafted JV.

Those are the main guys on the team.



umm there has been nothing wrong with doing the thing that has made the team successful each every consecutive season. BC just could not define the role players to get around that core. Masai identified it and got them either FA or draft. why the hell do you think we got to 59 wins this year?

again, BC's core is fine - they probably did need that true alpha player to get there but its fine.

59 wins is about as equivalent my ****

The 2017-2018 will forever me remembered as the year we got lebrontod


lol again, how is that on Masai? :crazy:
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#305 » by lebron stopper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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VinBaker6 wrote:
**** mlse, these cheap bastards will never pay the tax but Rogers will up their overage charges by 1000%


How is it MLSE's fault that Masai locked up Powell and Ibaka to a combined $35 Mil/year? You can literally find minimum salary players who offer significantly more production.


to be fair, almost everyone wanted Powell locked up after the 2017 season.

to be fair, Ibaka was an asset management move - he's either hit or miss last year. 2017 was decent but strictly not losing him for nothing.


The Powell contract was OK but Doofus Casey badly misused him (starting him at SF), and then continued to have him on a very short leash and putting him in the doghouse for the slightest mistake, as is typical for the last three years between Powell and Doofus Casey.

Ibaka's contract was total garbage though. Was an overpay back then and is an overpay now.
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Post#306 » by BigShaq34 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:27 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
BigShaq34 wrote:
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BCs core won 34 games and was capped out the year we fired him :rofl:

and we are now an even bigger joke on international stage as playoff chokers under the fraud trust fund masai

i'd rather win 34 games and have no one talk about us then be a distaster every year in the playoffs and have everyone laugh at us.

Nothing will change with this core until roster changes are made. Significant ones

lmao go support the Kings, you'll be a happier person.

mavscarter why did you delete your post :lol:

I don't take anything personally bruv, you can call me unstable that's your opinion

And Yeezus I'm too invested in the raptors for too many years to ditch them now. Although they really angered me this year i still haven't gotten over that sweep.
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Post#307 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:27 pm

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Tortiglioni wrote:
How is it MLSE's fault that Masai locked up Powell and Ibaka to a combined $35 Mil/year? You can literally find minimum salary players who offer significantly more production.


to be fair, almost everyone wanted Powell locked up after the 2017 season.

to be fair, Ibaka was an asset management move - he's either hit or miss last year. 2017 was decent but strictly not losing him for nothing.


The Powell contract was OK but Doofus Casey badly misused him (starting him at SF), and then continued to have him on a very short leash and putting him in the doghouse for the slightest mistake, as is typical for the last three years between Powell and Doofus Casey.

Ibaka's contract was total garbage though. Was an overpay back then and is an overpay now.


ya its super garbage. there is no way Ibaka is 28. lol
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#308 » by lebron stopper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:28 pm

UneducatedFan86 wrote:Sounds like Demar is the weak link.


Not news.
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Post#309 » by Danny1616 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
Danny1616 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
It's a run that hasn't led to bigger things. Since making the ECF in 2016, we've regressed every year.

The novelty wears off eventually. At some point, you expect forward movement. If not, then it should be back to the drawing board with a new direction.


So when the Mavericks made the finals in 2006 and then lost in the first round in 2007 after having the best record league they should went complete rebuild?

So when the Spurs got bounced out of the playoffs in 2008 and 2009 and then got swept by the Suns in the second round in 2010 they should have went complete rebuild?

Under your logic any top team that doesn't make the finals should rebuild.


The Mavs and Spurs had future HOFers on their teams. It's much easier to turn things around with Dirk or Duncan on your team


After the 2013-2014 season nobody foresaw Curry as a future MVP player.

Yet the Warriors made the 2nd round in 2013 and lost in the first round in 2014.

They didn't rebuild...but the hiring of Kerr and emergence of Green the following season made a huge difference to them.

Again, sometimes retooling or the emergence of a young player can make a big difference in an elite team.
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Post#310 » by mirrornick » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 pm

So much negativity here. SMH
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Post#311 » by Wo1verine » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 pm

lebron stopper wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Tortiglioni wrote:
How is it MLSE's fault that Masai locked up Powell and Ibaka to a combined $35 Mil/year? You can literally find minimum salary players who offer significantly more production.


to be fair, almost everyone wanted Powell locked up after the 2017 season.

to be fair, Ibaka was an asset management move - he's either hit or miss last year. 2017 was decent but strictly not losing him for nothing.


The Powell contract was OK but Doofus Casey badly misused him (starting him at SF), and then continued to have him on a very short leash and putting him in the doghouse for the slightest mistake, as is typical for the last three years between Powell and Doofus Casey.

Ibaka's contract was total garbage though. Was an overpay back then and is an overpay now.

Yeah, i am still a believer in Norman Powell, for sure! With the right coach ( hopefully Nurse) i think he can be very productive player.
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Post#312 » by lebron stopper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:30 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
to be fair, almost everyone wanted Powell locked up after the 2017 season.

to be fair, Ibaka was an asset management move - he's either hit or miss last year. 2017 was decent but strictly not losing him for nothing.


The Powell contract was OK but Doofus Casey badly misused him (starting him at SF), and then continued to have him on a very short leash and putting him in the doghouse for the slightest mistake, as is typical for the last three years between Powell and Doofus Casey.

Ibaka's contract was total garbage though. Was an overpay back then and is an overpay now.


ya its super garbage. there is no way Ibaka is 28. lol


Easily one of the worst contracts in the league. How many first round picks will it cost to get rid of? At least five?
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Post#313 » by BigShaq34 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:30 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:

umm there has been nothing wrong with doing the thing that has made the team successful each every consecutive season. BC just could not define the role players to get around that core. Masai identified it and got them either FA or draft. why the hell do you think we got to 59 wins this year?

again, BC's core is fine - they probably did need that true alpha player to get there but its fine.

59 wins is about as equivalent my ****

The 2017-2018 will forever me remembered as the year we got lebrontod


lol again, how is that on Masai? :crazy:

he preached about a culture change the year before after we got swept emphasizing on success in the playoffs as their next goal and the next year it fell flat on our face again

He's the leader of course its on him
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Post#314 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:33 pm

So... roster changes and experimenting... that's basically running out small-ball lineups with Ibaka at the 5 which they barely did enough of all year long. They ran out Poeltl very often (too often) and the only different rotation look they didn't do enough of was this last year.

Head coach experience at assistant spot... Vogel is on the defensive coordinator wish list for sure.

I love how he said the series hinged on the Game 1 loss. Because it did.
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Post#315 » by lebron stopper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:33 pm

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
to be fair, almost everyone wanted Powell locked up after the 2017 season.

to be fair, Ibaka was an asset management move - he's either hit or miss last year. 2017 was decent but strictly not losing him for nothing.


The Powell contract was OK but Doofus Casey badly misused him (starting him at SF), and then continued to have him on a very short leash and putting him in the doghouse for the slightest mistake, as is typical for the last three years between Powell and Doofus Casey.

Ibaka's contract was total garbage though. Was an overpay back then and is an overpay now.

Yeah, i am still a believer in Norman Powell, for sure! With the right coach ( hopefully Nurse) i think he can be very productive player.


Would rather roll with Powell than with DeRozan at this point. He won't compromise your defense significantly (he actually tries on defense) and he's way quicker on both ends of the floor.

Best case scenario, his value gets rehabilitated and we don't need a pick to dump him. Worst case scenario, he's only eating up $10 million per year vs DeRozan's $28 million per year as we settle into a rebuild.
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Post#316 » by lebron stopper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:37 pm

RaptorsLife wrote:God I hope Lowry is gone


Yeah I also hope the guy who's been dragging this team to the playoffs for 5 straight years gets traded.
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Post#317 » by lebron stopper » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:39 pm

Inevitable wrote:
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Smh mans bidded against himself on Ibaka and now its gunna cost the franchise FVV.


ORL can't offer him 12. Not in the CBA for a restricted bird rights FA.


Regardless his contract will put the team in the tax, I'd be surprised if Masai can make room under it. He's gone.


VanVleet leaving means we lose him for nothing in return, plus it makes our bench so much worse and increases old man Lowry's minutes as a result.

I hope ML$E doesn't interfere with resigning VanVleet. We need this man.
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Post#318 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:40 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
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You're borderlining on constant negativity, which is against the boards rules. Unofficial warning. --Duff


lol really. Criticizing Masai is an offense now.


I got warned for being "too negative" during BC's tenure too. Looks like I was right in the end. I'll be right with Masai as well. It takes about half a decade for this board to start turning on a GM (we're already seeing more Masai critics).


Lmao at taking pride in knowing an NBA GM will be changed out eventually. So when its after ten years, you're going to say you knew it? Honestly, do you think this makes you some kind of savant when its just the fate of every single GM? :roll:
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Post#319 » by BigShaq34 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:41 pm

Yeezus_ wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:We actually were the best we've ever been this year.


We got swept in the second round. We were the only team to not manage a win against Cleveland in the playoffs. I'd say that's a step back from 2016.

Obviously it was a disappointing ending but statistically this was our best team ever.

Taking any good away from this past season is laughable. Since October all of our critics shrugged saying we would have a bad playoff run but a good season. That talk elevated once we were playing well in Dec, Jan, and Feb.

We proved our critics right this year. Masai himself said the goal was playoff success not regular season success as we were past that.

This past season was a total failure.

Ask 99 percent of people looking back at this season what they would think about when they reflect on this past season and it would be losing to the Cavs in embarrassing fashion when 2 inferior teams took them to the brink.

No one gives a **** about 59 wins
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Post#320 » by duppyy » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:41 pm

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The Powell contract was OK but Doofus Casey badly misused him (starting him at SF), and then continued to have him on a very short leash and putting him in the doghouse for the slightest mistake, as is typical for the last three years between Powell and Doofus Casey.

Ibaka's contract was total garbage though. Was an overpay back then and is an overpay now.


ya its super garbage. there is no way Ibaka is 28. lol


Easily one of the worst contracts in the league. How many first round picks will it cost to get rid of? At least five?


1 at most. Only 2 years and after next year his expiring becomes a commodity.

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