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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#301 » by alan_156 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:20 pm

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If this is true then Masai already probably told them Siakam is not available. :noway:



Yuck. Pascal is much better than Prozac :roll:
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#302 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:25 pm

WetLikeWater wrote:Breaking News: Siakam has been traded to the Portland Blazers for the 3rd pick and Anfernee Simons plus 2024 first round unprotected pick


If you’re going to post fake stuff, at least be aware enough to know Portland can’t trade a 2024 first round pick.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#303 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:28 pm

A healthy Zinger is a great player. He’d be awesome next to Lillard. But like Zion or PG13 do you go all in on a player that has historically been quite fragile?
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#304 » by ItsDanger » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:32 pm

JRoy respectfully declines this trade offer. Expiring contract, doesn't guarantee a championship.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#305 » by islandboy53 » Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:46 pm

alan_156 wrote:
720 wrote:
Read on Twitter


If this is true then Masai already probably told them Siakam is not available. :noway:



Yuck. Pascal is much better than Prozac :roll:


Keep in mind that Porzingis has until the 21st to opt in for next year, otherwise he’s a UFA. This would seem to be Washington proposing a hypothetical to Portland, who are going to listen to everything to help them understand the landscape.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#306 » by mtcan » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:36 am

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Do we trust this Weinbach guy???
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#307 » by DG88 » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:51 am

islandboy53 wrote:
alan_156 wrote:
720 wrote:
Read on Twitter


If this is true then Masai already probably told them Siakam is not available. :noway:



Yuck. Pascal is much better than Prozac :roll:


Keep in mind that Porzingis has until the 21st to opt in for next year, otherwise he’s a UFA. This would seem to be Washington proposing a hypothetical to Portland, who are going to listen to everything to help them understand the landscape.

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#308 » by PhilBlackson » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:52 am

There are no words to describe how angry I would be if WAS got the 3rd for f'ing Kristaps and we held on to Pascal.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#309 » by JRoy » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:57 am

Porzingis generally has an excellent haircut.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#310 » by SpezNc » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:59 am

mtcan wrote:
Read on Twitter

Do we trust this Weinbach guy???


Good question.

But regardless of the legitimacy of this rumours / speculation I am wondering how that deal could look like.

I am not saying it’s a deal we should do but I am curious about how the structure of a 3 way trade could shape up.

Would it be something like this?

Dallas : Hield
Indiana : Anunoby, Pick 10, Salary filler from Dallas (Maybe Green)
Toronto : Bartan, Pick 7th, Pick 26, Pick 29

I am simply trying to decode / decipher Weinstein fantasy trade / rumours

Dallas would get rid of Bartan contract and add Hield for the price of the 10th spot
Indiana would improve from Hield to Anunoby for the price of dropping from the 7th to 10th spot and two low 1st pick
Toronto : Would get 3 2023 1st pick including a top10 pick for the price of Anunoby and taking Bartan contract

Arguably an underwhelming return if that is indeed the framework although.

Or maybe the 13th spot is also flipped for the 10th spot

I am speculating myself based on Weinbach speculative tweet.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#311 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:13 am

SpezNc wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Read on Twitter

Do we trust this Weinbach guy???


Good question.

But regardless of the legitimacy of this rumours / speculation I am wondering how that deal could look like.

I am not saying it’s a deal we should do but I am curious about how the structure of a 3 way trade could shape up.

Would it be something like this?

Dallas : Hield
Indiana : Anunoby, Pick 10, Salary filler from Dallas (Maybe Green)
Toronto : Bartan, Pick 7th, Pick 26, Pick 29

I am simply trying to decode / decipher Weinstein fantasy trade / rumours

Dallas would get rid of Bartan contract and add Hield for the price of the 10th spot
Indiana would improve from Hield to Anunoby for the price of dropping from the 7th to 10th spot and two low 1st pick
Toronto : Would get 3 2023 1st pick including a top10 pick for the price of Anunoby and taking Bartan contract

Arguably an underwhelming return if that is indeed the framework although.

Or maybe the 13th spot is also flipped for the 10th spot

I am speculating myself based on Weinbach speculative tweet.

We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#312 » by mtcan » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:16 am

Zeno wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Read on Twitter

Do we trust this Weinbach guy???


Good question.

But regardless of the legitimacy of this rumours / speculation I am wondering how that deal could look like.

I am not saying it’s a deal we should do but I am curious about how the structure of a 3 way trade could shape up.

Would it be something like this?

Dallas : Hield
Indiana : Anunoby, Pick 10, Salary filler from Dallas (Maybe Green)
Toronto : Bartan, Pick 7th, Pick 26, Pick 29

I am simply trying to decode / decipher Weinstein fantasy trade / rumours

Dallas would get rid of Bartan contract and add Hield for the price of the 10th spot
Indiana would improve from Hield to Anunoby for the price of dropping from the 7th to 10th spot and two low 1st pick
Toronto : Would get 3 2023 1st pick including a top10 pick for the price of Anunoby and taking Bartan contract

Arguably an underwhelming return if that is indeed the framework although.

Or maybe the 13th spot is also flipped for the 10th spot

I am speculating myself based on Weinbach speculative tweet.

We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10

I'd be ok with #7 and #10 as return. Would obviously prefer a top 5 pick...but 2 top 10 picks would be cool.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#313 » by mtcan » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:17 am

JRoy wrote:Porzingis generally has an excellent haircut.

That haircut in a Blazers jersey no less... :lol:
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#314 » by Nebuchadnezzar » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:20 am

mtcan wrote:
Zeno wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Good question.

But regardless of the legitimacy of this rumours / speculation I am wondering how that deal could look like.

I am not saying it’s a deal we should do but I am curious about how the structure of a 3 way trade could shape up.

Would it be something like this?

Dallas : Hield
Indiana : Anunoby, Pick 10, Salary filler from Dallas (Maybe Green)
Toronto : Bartan, Pick 7th, Pick 26, Pick 29

I am simply trying to decode / decipher Weinstein fantasy trade / rumours

Dallas would get rid of Bartan contract and add Hield for the price of the 10th spot
Indiana would improve from Hield to Anunoby for the price of dropping from the 7th to 10th spot and two low 1st pick
Toronto : Would get 3 2023 1st pick including a top10 pick for the price of Anunoby and taking Bartan contract

Arguably an underwhelming return if that is indeed the framework although.

Or maybe the 13th spot is also flipped for the 10th spot

I am speculating myself based on Weinbach speculative tweet.

We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10

I'd be ok with #7 and #10 as return. Would obviously prefer a top 5 pick...but 2 top 10 picks would be cool.


None of this picks equals OGs value. I don't understand why we are considering these middling picks, OG can fit any timeline, including the build around Scottie one. Not sure why the ping pongers are interested, is it just for the fun of picking picks?
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#315 » by SpezNc » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:24 am

Zeno wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Read on Twitter

Do we trust this Weinbach guy???


Good question.

But regardless of the legitimacy of this rumours / speculation I am wondering how that deal could look like.

I am not saying it’s a deal we should do but I am curious about how the structure of a 3 way trade could shape up.

Would it be something like this?

Dallas : Hield
Indiana : Anunoby, Pick 10, Salary filler from Dallas (Maybe Green)
Toronto : Bartan, Pick 7th, Pick 26, Pick 29

I am simply trying to decode / decipher Weinstein fantasy trade / rumours

Dallas would get rid of Bartan contract and add Hield for the price of the 10th spot
Indiana would improve from Hield to Anunoby for the price of dropping from the 7th to 10th spot and two low 1st pick
Toronto : Would get 3 2023 1st pick including a top10 pick for the price of Anunoby and taking Bartan contract

Arguably an underwhelming return if that is indeed the framework although.

Or maybe the 13th spot is also flipped for the 10th spot

I am speculating myself based on Weinbach speculative tweet.

We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10


Definitely much better from a Raptors perspective.

Although I would prefer that we move on from FVV or package Siakam for the 3rd or 4th pick, I am genuinely intrigued by your fantasy trade.

I am not saying I say yes but it’s definitely getting my attention.

From an Indiana perspective:

Wondering in this scenario if the two low 1st could stays with Indiana as they would give 3 1st plus Hield for Anunoby,

Also there is an additional salary that need to leave Dallas to make the salary work. Depending of the player leaving Dallas to Indiana then maybe yeah the picks can go to Dallas.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#316 » by SpezNc » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:29 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Zeno wrote:We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10

I'd be ok with #7 and #10 as return. Would obviously prefer a top 5 pick...but 2 top 10 picks would be cool.


None of this picks equals OGs value. I don't understand why we are considering these middling picks, OG can fit any timeline, including the build around Scottie one. Not sure why the ping pongers are interested, is it just for the fun of picking picks?


With picks you buy the hope and also player under entry level contract

Obviously if you trade O.G, you are not getting today the value of O.G. But if you make good selections, you hope that you can find another O.G.

It’s impossible to keep all 4 of Siakam O.G FVV and Poeltl. At least one maybe two has to go to fit the long term structure.

In order my favourite piece to fit Barnes timeline is O.G.

But if we the FO is banking on keeping Siakam, FVV, Poeltl then you need to pivot and trades O.G for picks / futures.

Obviously trading O.G is only one of many potential direction.

Not the direction I would go but still a potential one.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#317 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:35 am

So it probably would be 3, Nurkic, Simons for 8, Porzingas, maybe #18 from Heat. Portland then probably tries to flip 8,18 for someone else. Maybe this is only if Scoot is gone @3.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#318 » by mtcan » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:39 am

Nebuchadnezzar wrote:
mtcan wrote:
Zeno wrote:We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10

I'd be ok with #7 and #10 as return. Would obviously prefer a top 5 pick...but 2 top 10 picks would be cool.


None of this picks equals OGs value. I don't understand why we are considering these middling picks, OG can fit any timeline, including the build around Scottie one. Not sure why the ping pongers are interested, is it just for the fun of picking picks?

They aren't middling picks. Top 10 picks aren't middling. #13 is middling...or at least at the cusp of being middling.

For a head coach that has a reputation for development...you give him as many quality prospects to work with to see who blossoms out of them.
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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#319 » by ItsDanger » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:52 am

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Re: Portland #3 trade rumors part 2 

Post#320 » by Zeno » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:52 am

SpezNc wrote:
Zeno wrote:
SpezNc wrote:
Good question.

But regardless of the legitimacy of this rumours / speculation I am wondering how that deal could look like.

I am not saying it’s a deal we should do but I am curious about how the structure of a 3 way trade could shape up.

Would it be something like this?

Dallas : Hield
Indiana : Anunoby, Pick 10, Salary filler from Dallas (Maybe Green)
Toronto : Bartan, Pick 7th, Pick 26, Pick 29

I am simply trying to decode / decipher Weinstein fantasy trade / rumours

Dallas would get rid of Bartan contract and add Hield for the price of the 10th spot
Indiana would improve from Hield to Anunoby for the price of dropping from the 7th to 10th spot and two low 1st pick
Toronto : Would get 3 2023 1st pick including a top10 pick for the price of Anunoby and taking Bartan contract

Arguably an underwhelming return if that is indeed the framework although.

Or maybe the 13th spot is also flipped for the 10th spot

I am speculating myself based on Weinbach speculative tweet.

We wanted more than 7 last year from Portland. Despite the expiring I assume his value is the same or better now given the 140% extension option in new cba. 26th, 29th picks are barely assets. Bertans is a negative.

To me it would have to be...

Dallas: Hield, 26, 29
Pacers: OG
Raps: Bertans, 7, 10


Definitely much better from a Raptors perspective.

Although I would prefer that we move on from FVV or package Siakam for the 3rd or 4th pick, I am genuinely intrigued by your fantasy trade.

I am not saying I say yes but it’s definitely getting my attention.

From an Indiana perspective:

Wondering in this scenario if the two low 1st could stays with Indiana as they would give 3 1st plus Hield for Anunoby,

Also there is an additional salary that need to leave Dallas to make the salary work. Depending of the player leaving Dallas to Indiana then maybe yeah the picks can go to Dallas.

Dallas doesn't need to include more salary. Everything is within an legal amount for trade. Maybe Indy is giving up a very slight bit too much here. I think Dallas is maybe slightly light too. But I'm a Raptors fan so no need to be fair. lol. Maybe we give Indy the #13 pick and get Nembhard for example. Though who knows, that might be less appealing to the Pacers since he had a pretty good rookie season and every pick is a risk.
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