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Post#301 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:14 pm

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5. Reed Sheppard | PG/SG | Kentucky
6-2 | Age: 19.5 | Previously ranked: 12


Despite still coming off the bench, Sheppard has proved impossible to keep off the floor for Kentucky in SEC play, where he already has had several signature moments in cementing his case as the best freshman in college basketball. Scouts regularly express concern about his limited physical tools (6-foot-2 in shoes and 187 pounds with a 6-3 wingspan) and what that means for his defensive and finishing potential in the NBA. But that he continues to make strides with his pick-and-roll playmaking combined with his historically great 3-point shooting is increasingly hard to ignore. Only one NCAA first-round pick in the past 35 years (Michigan's Glen Rice in 1989) has shot over 50% from 3 on more than four attempts per game like Sheppard is doing this season (see note below), and Sheppard's basketball instincts should help him impact winning in a variety of other ways. -- Givony




10. Tidjane Salaun | PF | Cholet
6-10 | Age: 18.4 | Previously ranked: 8

The French Basketball Cup and FIBA qualifying window made for a quiet month for Salaun and Cholet -- who only played two games since Feb. 10. A 10-rebound, six-assist outing in his most recent contest showed some of the subtle ways Salaun is improving as the season moves on, and his defense also has made significant strides, as his nonstop intensity has helped him carve out a significant role. That's important, because Salaun's jumper has been streaky since his scorching month of January (26% from 3 in the past 12 games) and he isn't a reliable shot-creator or decision-maker. It's rare to see an 18-year-old contributing at this level of competition, however, and he is clearly nowhere near reaching his full potential. Cholet has a huge month in store in the FIBA Champions League's top 16 stage while trying to lock down a playoff spot in Pro A, giving Salaun a significant platform to work off. NBA teams will be present for every game he plays. -- Givony


11. Kyle Filipowski | PF/C | Duke
7-0 | Age: 20.3 | Previously ranked: 9



Filipowski has put together an All-American-caliber season and has helped to address some of the NBA's concerns about his game, making strides as a defender at his size and proving more mobile and versatile than many expected. While limited a bit athletically, he can create matchup problems at his size due to his skill level and should have good utility on the offensive end provided he continues to improve as a shooter. He isn't a fit for every team -- he's likely better suited for a half-court-oriented style that is slower paced -- but supplies unique qualities that will warrant consideration early in the draft, depending on what a team needs. -- Woo


Right now I have Sheppard at 6 with Stephon Castle at 5 but those two are fighting for position in my mind atm and are interchangeable once you get past Holland, Buzelis, Sarr and Topic. I have really settled the top part of the draft down and I don't think it's going to change much except between those particular prospects who are part of it and I'll also take a closer look at arguments for Dillingham and Collier to be part of it. After that Castle and Sheppard are fair game. I'm totally off the Cody Williams train, he has proven very little at the college level other than transition and C&S efficiency on low volume while demonstrating a multitude of weaknesses. Unless he's tanking his stock so that he can play with his brother in some giant conspiracy his NBA outlook isn't what the mainstream thinks it is.
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Post#302 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:24 pm

I was kind of cool on this draft, started to warm up, but cooling again.

Most of the players I have interest in are GLeague or professional overseas.
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Post#303 » by niQ » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:49 pm

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15. Zach Edey
16. Stephon Castle
17. Devin Carter
18. Tyler Smith

What are everyone's thoughts on this batch for the Pacer's pick?
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Post#304 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:49 pm

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Rapsfan07 wrote:Really hoping we can offload Poeltl and Brown for at least one additional pick each. Even moving just one of them for that price would really give us a great chance at picking up a worthwhile prospect.


Focus your thinking on Brown. Poeltl isn't going anywhere.


He should be. But I do agree with the idea that the FO won't trade him.
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Post#305 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:54 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Reed finally getting top 5 respect

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15. Zach Edey
16. Stephon Castle
17. Devin Carter
18. Tyler Smith

What are everyone's thoughts on this batch for the Pacer's pick?


Definitely should be Carter or Smith. Carter is much more of a sure thing IMO and short of a horrible injury or some unforeseen thing, he should have a long and quality NBA career. I don't think you can ask for more than that from the middle of the first round.

He reminds me of a better shooting, more athletic Marcus Smart.
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Post#306 » by manjusaka » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:01 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Reed finally getting top 5 respect

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15. Zach Edey
16. Stephon Castle
17. Devin Carter
18. Tyler Smith

What are everyone's thoughts on this batch for the Pacer's pick?


WOW Edey at 15 !
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Post#307 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Tue Mar 5, 2024 5:29 pm

Spurs gonna land Sarr because NBA wants modern day twin eiffel towers and wants the San Antonio maket to thrive again. The conspiracy is real.
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Post#308 » by Dalek » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:53 pm

This seems like the GIannis draft where people see a down draft and are pegging a lot of older prospects in the top 20. How many +20 year-old guys were there in the DX/ESPN ranking? Kind of interesting to note that even some of the freshmen are close to 20 or will be 20 by the draft.

I think we will inevitably see a few Bruno/Giannis types who were not ranked high but some front office takes a swing on. This draft feel ripe for some wild swings. Ulirch Comche and Bub Carrington are two that I think will crack top 20.
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Post#309 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:55 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Spurs gonna land Sarr because NBA wants modern day twin eiffel towers and wants the San Antonio maket to thrive again. The conspiracy is real.


I struggle to see them passing on Topic if he’s available
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Post#310 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:04 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Spurs gonna land Sarr because NBA wants modern day twin eiffel towers and wants the San Antonio maket to thrive again. The conspiracy is real.

San Antonio and the NBA rigging the lottery for them to have generational big men, name a more iconic duo.

Robinson, Duncan, and Wemby? No franchise could ever be that lucky
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#311 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:10 pm

niQ wrote:15. Zach Edey
16. Stephon Castle
17. Devin Carter
18. Tyler Smith

What are everyone's thoughts on this batch for the Pacer's pick?


I would take Edey, because if he answers the doubts he's a home run. The other guys are solid singles.
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Post#312 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:26 pm

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Spurs gonna land Sarr because NBA wants modern day twin eiffel towers and wants the San Antonio maket to thrive again. The conspiracy is real.

San Antonio and the NBA rigging the lottery for them to have generational big men, name a more iconic duo.

Robinson, Duncan, and Wemby? No franchise could ever be that lucky


Best thing was for him to go to the West.
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Post#313 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:35 pm

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Spurs gonna land Sarr because NBA wants modern day twin eiffel towers and wants the San Antonio maket to thrive again. The conspiracy is real.

San Antonio and the NBA rigging the lottery for them to have generational big men, name a more iconic duo.

Robinson, Duncan, and Wemby? No franchise could ever be that lucky


Best thing was for him to go to the West.

I don’t doubt it was the best situation for him. But it’s mighty coincidental that these guys constantly end up with Pop.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#314 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:38 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:San Antonio and the NBA rigging the lottery for them to have generational big men, name a more iconic duo.

Robinson, Duncan, and Wemby? No franchise could ever be that lucky


Best thing was for him to go to the West.

I don’t doubt it was the best situation for him. But it’s mighty coincidental that these guys constantly end up with Pop.


For us. That guy will be destroying the league by next year
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Post#315 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:40 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
niQ wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Reed finally getting top 5 respect

Read on Twitter
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15. Zach Edey
16. Stephon Castle
17. Devin Carter
18. Tyler Smith

What are everyone's thoughts on this batch for the Pacer's pick?


Definitely should be Carter or Smith. Carter is much more of a sure thing IMO and short of a horrible injury or some unforeseen thing, he should have a long and quality NBA career. I don't think you can ask for more than that from the middle of the first round.

He reminds me of a better shooting, more athletic Marcus Smart.


It's a boring pick like George Hill. Pacers traded Kawhi for George Hill. :roll:
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Post#316 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:42 pm

Dalek wrote:This seems like the GIannis draft where people see a down draft and are pegging a lot of older prospects in the top 20. How many +20 year-old guys were there in the DX/ESPN ranking? Kind of interesting to note that even some of the freshmen are close to 20 or will be 20 by the draft.

I think we will inevitably see a few Bruno/Giannis types who were not ranked high but some front office takes a swing on. This draft feel ripe for some wild swings. Ulirch Comche and Bub Carrington are two that I think will crack top 20.


Draft the young player like Furphy, , Tyler Smith or Ivisic!!!
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Post#317 » by wegotthabeet » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:57 pm

i'd take Cody Williams if we keep the Spurs pick.

top 4 - Cody Williams

IND pick - still undecided (leaning towards someone like Ulrich Chomche).

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Post#318 » by Dalek » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:17 pm

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Dalek wrote:This seems like the GIannis draft where people see a down draft and are pegging a lot of older prospects in the top 20. How many +20 year-old guys were there in the DX/ESPN ranking? Kind of interesting to note that even some of the freshmen are close to 20 or will be 20 by the draft.

I think we will inevitably see a few Bruno/Giannis types who were not ranked high but some front office takes a swing on. This draft feel ripe for some wild swings. Ulirch Comche and Bub Carrington are two that I think will crack top 20.


Draft the young player like Furphy, , Tyler Smith or Ivisic!!!


I agree with that for the most part. Even if guys are young many were developed in an international system like Furphy and Ivisic, and could be ahead on a bball and maturity level playing NT or professionally for some time. G League Ignite, OTE, NBL are all different pathways.

Kind of interesting that with the success of OTE last draft we don't hear of any prospects for the 2024 draft like the Thompson twins. Tyler Smith, Alex Sarr and Izan Almansa are former OTE guys, so they do attract talent which often migrates to other leagues for exposure purposes.

There are two interesting guys in the OTE:

Somto Cyril (Nigerian) - 6'11 and 250 lbs, Center averaging 9 and 9 and 3 blocks.
Nathan Missia-Dio (Belgian) - 6'9 with a purported 7'7 wingspan, Forward averaging 9 and 7 and 2 blocks but also 3.5 assists.
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Post#319 » by ATLTimekeeper » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:40 pm

Givony's recent piece about teams quitting on prospects within their rookie deal seems to be pointing to teams hedging with more mature college players. Essentially the draft extends well beyond the draft into 2 ways/UDFAs now. Teams seem to know if a player will blow up or not into a core piece by the end of year 2, or it happens so rarely that players blow up on other teams that they can risk cutting bait and trying again.

Also underclassmen now getting paid leads to maybe better decision-making re entering the draft. I dunno if true, but if you're looking for cheap role players than drafting a junior or senior seems like a good way to go about it rather than a freshman who mostly stinks for a few years before being just okay for their career. We've yet to see FRPs really embrace a season or two in the Gleague to develop. They might go down for a bit, but not like commit to a multi-year development process.
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Post#320 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 5, 2024 8:46 pm

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Dalek wrote:This seems like the GIannis draft where people see a down draft and are pegging a lot of older prospects in the top 20. How many +20 year-old guys were there in the DX/ESPN ranking? Kind of interesting to note that even some of the freshmen are close to 20 or will be 20 by the draft.

I think we will inevitably see a few Bruno/Giannis types who were not ranked high but some front office takes a swing on. This draft feel ripe for some wild swings. Ulirch Comche and Bub Carrington are two that I think will crack top 20.


Draft the young player like Furphy, , Tyler Smith or Ivisic!!!


I agree with that for the most part. Even if guys are young many were developed in an international system like Furphy and Ivisic, and could be ahead on a bball and maturity level playing NT or professionally for some time. G League Ignite, OTE, NBL are all different pathways.

Kind of interesting that with the success of OTE last draft we don't hear of any prospects for the 2024 draft like the Thompson twins. Tyler Smith, Alex Sarr and Izan Almansa are former OTE guys, so they do attract talent which often migrates to other leagues for exposure purposes.

There are two interesting guys in the OTE:

Somto Cyril (Nigerian) - 6'11 and 250 lbs, Center averaging 9 and 9 and 3 blocks.
Nathan Missia-Dio (Belgian) - 6'9 with a purported 7'7 wingspan, Forward averaging 9 and 7 and 2 blocks but also 3.5 assists.


Didn't the Thompson's spend 2 years with OTE, thus they were older prospect.

Scoot spent 2 years with the GLeague Ignite.

Tyler Smith spent last year with OTE and this season with the GLeague Ignite.

I guess if you really need 3 years on these teams then it's like being a college upperclassmen.
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