2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[TimeForChange]

I am not sure what everyone who thinks Clingan played poorly yesterday was watching. Maybe it was the TSN analysts who's sentiments they are echoing

Clingan was a stud yesterday, is easily the best defensive player in the draft and will be a top-10 pick (maybe even top-5).

If Edey can hit some 3's in workouts, he too will be a top-15 pick.

No clue why anybody would say that. Clingan was arguably the biggest reason UConn won the game. His ability to guard Edey in single coverage (and not get completely torched/in foul trouble immediately like everyone else in the country) is what allowed Hurley the ability to not double and pressure Purdue's guards. Purdue had absolutely no clue what to do once Edey started missing in the 2nd half and UConn blew them out.

I have no idea why people are saying clingan played poorly and shouldn't be a top-20 pick. go back a few pages and you will see them.

like you said, clingan played edey 1-on-1. no one else in cbb could have done the job he did yesterday.

[Thaddy]

The first pick is going to be Sarr. Castle is ridiculous.

Ivisic is the guy I want in the 2nd. We invest in him for a Gleague run and revisit next year. The flashes are great from shooting to mobility to seeing the floor and making plays. He's a smart player for his age and we can develop him similar to Gradey.

At 15th, based on the Ringer mock, I would take Collier. There's a chance he can be developed and he's the only big guard I see that could develop into a combo guard.

If we keep the 6th I'd go with Risacher but I doubt he's there.

[billy_hoyle]

I am not sure what everyone who thinks Clingan played poorly yesterday was watching. Maybe it was the TSN analysts who's sentiments they are echoing

Clingan was a stud yesterday, is easily the best defensive player in the draft and will be a top-10 pick (maybe even top-5).

If Edey can hit some 3's in workouts, he too will be a top-15 pick.

No clue why anybody would say that. Clingan was arguably the biggest reason UConn won the game. His ability to guard Edey in single coverage (and not get completely torched/in foul trouble immediately like everyone else in the country) is what allowed Hurley the ability to not double and pressure Purdue's guards. Purdue had absolutely no clue what to do once Edey started missing in the 2nd half and UConn blew them out.

I have no idea why people are saying clingan played poorly and shouldn't be a top-20 pick. go back a few pages and you will see them.

like you said, clingan played edey 1-on-1. no one else in cbb could have done the job he did yesterday.

I think it's because the guy he was guarding put up 37 pts on 60% shooting and 70% from the stripe on 10 attempts. Outrebounded him 2 to 1 to boot.

But ya, the Purdue guards getting absolutely suffocated by the NBA guard and wing talent on UConn is all Clingan.

If they could have competently run a pick and role, get any kind of seperation, have any kind of burst, or get the ball to the 7' 4" guy sitting in the mid post on a slip, this woulda been different. It was like watching a team of G-leaguers try and create against a team of OGs. Brutal to watch.

[Randle McMurphy]

No clue why anybody would say that. Clingan was arguably the biggest reason UConn won the game. His ability to guard Edey in single coverage (and not get completely torched/in foul trouble immediately like everyone else in the country) is what allowed Hurley the ability to not double and pressure Purdue's guards. Purdue had absolutely no clue what to do once Edey started missing in the 2nd half and UConn blew them out.

I have no idea why people are saying clingan played poorly and shouldn't be a top-20 pick. go back a few pages and you will see them.

like you said, clingan played edey 1-on-1. no one else in cbb could have done the job he did yesterday.

I think it's because the guy he was guarding put up 37 pts on 60% shooting and 70% from the stripe on 10 attempts. Outrebounded him 2 to 1 to boot.

But ya, the Purdue guards getting absolutely suffocated by the NBA guard and wing talent on UConn is all Clingan.

If they could have competently run a pick and role, get any kind of seperation, have any kind of burst, or get the ball to the 7' 4" guy sitting in the mid post on a slip, this woulda been different. It was like watching a team of G-leaguers try and create against a team of OGs. Brutal to watch.

You're aware that 17 points of the 37 came in the final 10 minutes of the game when it was already a blowout, right?

Hurley's entire strategy was to let Edey get his the entire game and not let any of the Purdue players get going. That was especially the case in the final 10 minutes when Hurley was effectively daring Purdue to throw it in to him and take 2s rather than 3s (because he knew they couldn't be caught that way given the big lead). He even started putting Karaban on him too in the last 5 minutes to further dare them and Edey got about 10 points that way.

[ItsDanger]

I am not sure what everyone who thinks Clingan played poorly yesterday was watching. Maybe it was the TSN analysts who's sentiments they are echoing

Clingan was a stud yesterday, is easily the best defensive player in the draft and will be a top-10 pick (maybe even top-5).

If Edey can hit some 3's in workouts, he too will be a top-15 pick.

No clue why anybody would say that. Clingan was arguably the biggest reason UConn won the game. His ability to guard Edey in single coverage (and not get completely torched/in foul trouble immediately like everyone else in the country) is what allowed Hurley the ability to not double and pressure Purdue's guards. Purdue had absolutely no clue what to do once Edey started missing in the 2nd half and UConn blew them out.

I have no idea why people are saying clingan played poorly and shouldn't be a top-20 pick. go back a few pages and you will see them.

like you said, clingan played edey 1-on-1. no one else in cbb could have done the job he did yesterday.

Clingan was decent yesterday and thats all they needed. Game wasn't going to impact Clingan's draft status regardless.

[TimeForChange]

I have no idea why people are saying clingan played poorly and shouldn't be a top-20 pick. go back a few pages and you will see them.

like you said, clingan played edey 1-on-1. no one else in cbb could have done the job he did yesterday.

I think it's because the guy he was guarding put up 37 pts on 60% shooting and 70% from the stripe on 10 attempts. Outrebounded him 2 to 1 to boot.

But ya, the Purdue guards getting absolutely suffocated by the NBA guard and wing talent on UConn is all Clingan.

If they could have competently run a pick and role, get any kind of seperation, have any kind of burst, or get the ball to the 7' 4" guy sitting in the mid post on a slip, this woulda been different. It was like watching a team of G-leaguers try and create against a team of OGs. Brutal to watch.

You're aware that 17 points of the 37 came in the final 10 minutes of the game when it was already a blowout, right?

Hurley's entire strategy was to let Edey get his the entire game and not let any of the Purdue players get going. That was especially the case in the final 10 minutes when Hurley was effectively daring Purdue to throw it in to him and take 2s rather than 3s (because he knew they couldn't be caught that way given the big lead). He even started putting Karaban on him too in the last 5 minutes to further dare them and Edey got about 10 points that way.

i honestly don't think people even watched the game last night

[Brinbe]

grizz tanking against the spurs. not over yet

[sofargone]

chomche, 6'9, 7'3 wingspan

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[RoteSchroder]

I am not sure what everyone who thinks Clingan played poorly yesterday was watching. Maybe it was the TSN analysts who's sentiments they are echoing

Clingan was a stud yesterday, is easily the best defensive player in the draft and will be a top-10 pick (maybe even top-5).

If Edey can hit some 3's in workouts, he too will be a top-15 pick.

No clue why anybody would say that. Clingan was arguably the biggest reason UConn won the game. His ability to guard Edey in single coverage (and not get completely torched/in foul trouble immediately like everyone else in the country) is what allowed Hurley the ability to not double and pressure Purdue's guards. Purdue had absolutely no clue what to do once Edey started missing in the 2nd half and UConn blew them out.

Not sure Edey's as slow as advertised, but I think it's more so his reaction time isn't ideal

If we do draft him (I don't think we will at the Indiana pick), I'd just stick him as a back-up C in the long-term who gets 5-15+ min depending on the match-up. He could have a large impact in limited spurts.

Chet's a guard in a giant's body. I'm getting more of a Porzingis vibe from those highlights.

Kid might want to stick around for another year though, looks a bit slight and raw.

He's had the same problems for three years running, not sure if an extra year will fix things.

Seems to have a high center of balance, so he gets pushed around easily. This weakness may be applied to Wemby/Chet/Porzingis too. Ivisic doesn't have great foot speed or change of direction like those three though, so a PF/C hybrid is out of the question. He's a bit clunky for the skinny/tall archetype. His offense will likely be limited to catch and shoot + finishing near the basket.

Unable to cover a lot of ground as a shot blocker or rim protector, not great instincts, but effective as a stand still shot blocker if opposing players drive into him or are shooting in front of him. Not the best hands/instincts at times (on reb/passes), but probably not a big deal.

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chomche, 6'9, 7'3 wingspan

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Wow Dybansta is 6'7 without shoes!

Maluach is 7'1 without shoes!

[Randle McMurphy]

I think it's because the guy he was guarding put up 37 pts on 60% shooting and 70% from the stripe on 10 attempts. Outrebounded him 2 to 1 to boot.

But ya, the Purdue guards getting absolutely suffocated by the NBA guard and wing talent on UConn is all Clingan.

If they could have competently run a pick and role, get any kind of seperation, have any kind of burst, or get the ball to the 7' 4" guy sitting in the mid post on a slip, this woulda been different. It was like watching a team of G-leaguers try and create against a team of OGs. Brutal to watch.

You're aware that 17 points of the 37 came in the final 10 minutes of the game when it was already a blowout, right?

Hurley's entire strategy was to let Edey get his the entire game and not let any of the Purdue players get going. That was especially the case in the final 10 minutes when Hurley was effectively daring Purdue to throw it in to him and take 2s rather than 3s (because he knew they couldn't be caught that way given the big lead). He even started putting Karaban on him too in the last 5 minutes to further dare them and Edey got about 10 points that way.

i honestly don't think people even watched the game last night

They clearly didn’t because almost all of Edey’s points in the 2nd half were in garbage time when Hurley was effectively conceding 2s. Clingan shut him down for most of the 2nd while on him which is why the game even became a blowout.

[HKBOY]

If we get to keep our own pick, I will gladly take one of Sarr/Castle/Holland.

[720]

What do you guys think about this Terrence Shannon guy with our Pacers pick? Aside from him being old what is wrong with him? His game looks nice tbh.

[billy_hoyle]

I have no idea why people are saying clingan played poorly and shouldn't be a top-20 pick. go back a few pages and you will see them.

like you said, clingan played edey 1-on-1. no one else in cbb could have done the job he did yesterday.

I think it's because the guy he was guarding put up 37 pts on 60% shooting and 70% from the stripe on 10 attempts. Outrebounded him 2 to 1 to boot.

But ya, the Purdue guards getting absolutely suffocated by the NBA guard and wing talent on UConn is all Clingan.

If they could have competently run a pick and role, get any kind of seperation, have any kind of burst, or get the ball to the 7' 4" guy sitting in the mid post on a slip, this woulda been different. It was like watching a team of G-leaguers try and create against a team of OGs. Brutal to watch.

You're aware that 17 points of the 37 came in the final 10 minutes of the game when it was already a blowout, right?

Hurley's entire strategy was to let Edey get his the entire game and not let any of the Purdue players get going. That was especially the case in the final 10 minutes when Hurley was effectively daring Purdue to throw it in to him and take 2s rather than 3s (because he knew they couldn't be caught that way given the big lead). He even started putting Karaban on him too in the last 5 minutes to further dare them and Edey got about 10 points that way.

I'm aware that college games are 40 min long. You can discount scoring 20pts in the opening 3 quarters of the game, and simultaneously discount scoring 17 in the final quarter. You can call it genius to start guarding Edey with Karaban, or you acknowledge that Clingan had 4 fouls... and you now need to move off him before he fouls out.

Whatever fits your narrative tho.

Edey was the most impactful player on the floor, the next 6 best players all played for UConn. We understand the gameplan was to guard single coverage and not let the 3pt shooters beat you. That doesn't mean Clingan played well because it worked, that just means his team was that much better that he can get soundly beat in that match up, and his team would still win. That's a nod to Hurley and his teammates.

[Randle McMurphy]

I think it's because the guy he was guarding put up 37 pts on 60% shooting and 70% from the stripe on 10 attempts. Outrebounded him 2 to 1 to boot.

But ya, the Purdue guards getting absolutely suffocated by the NBA guard and wing talent on UConn is all Clingan.

If they could have competently run a pick and role, get any kind of seperation, have any kind of burst, or get the ball to the 7' 4" guy sitting in the mid post on a slip, this woulda been different. It was like watching a team of G-leaguers try and create against a team of OGs. Brutal to watch.

You're aware that 17 points of the 37 came in the final 10 minutes of the game when it was already a blowout, right?

Hurley's entire strategy was to let Edey get his the entire game and not let any of the Purdue players get going. That was especially the case in the final 10 minutes when Hurley was effectively daring Purdue to throw it in to him and take 2s rather than 3s (because he knew they couldn't be caught that way given the big lead). He even started putting Karaban on him too in the last 5 minutes to further dare them and Edey got about 10 points that way.

I'm aware that college games are 40 min long. You can discount scoring 20pts in the opening 3 quarters of the game, and simultaneously discount scoring 17 in the final quarter. You can call it genius to start guarding Edey with Karaban, or you acknowledge that Clingan had 4 fouls... and you now need to move off him before he fouls out.

Whatever fits your narrative tho.

Edey was the most impactful player on the floor, the next 6 best players all played for UConn. We understand the gameplan was to guard single coverage and not let the 3pt shooters beat you. That doesn't mean Clingan played well because it worked, that just means his team was that much better that he can get soundly beat in that match up, and his team would still win. That's a nod to Hurley and his teammates.

It's not what fits my narrative, it's literally what happened at the end of the game. There were 5 minutes left and Hurley stuck a guy who had no chance of guarding Edey to bait Purdue into throwing it into him and taking 2s (as an onslaught of 3s and turnovers was their only chance at a comeback). Edey scored 10 straight points because of that strategy in garbage time against a 6'6 guy and UConn won comfortably by 15.

And Clingan played quite well in that game to limit Edey as much as he did, particularly in the 2nd half. Purdue lost that game in the first 10 minutes of that half when Edey couldn't score on him. It's pretty safe to say that there's not a single other player in the NCAA who would have even come close to being able to do that in single coverage against him.

[TGM]

Edey and Ware (to a lesser extent) don't seem like the kind of centers Darko prefers for his system. Our current three centers (including Gambles Porter) are all high IQ, skilled, and high-level passers. Ware is skilled but questionable with the other two things, and Edey is a terrible passer from the post, let alone the high post. He has trouble reading double teams and finding the open man. In the championship game he had zero assists and 3 turnovers despite all the attention being on him by the defense.

Gonna disagree with you there, his doubles recognition is sometimes a bit slow but pretty good overall. None of Purdue's guards could create their own shot (maybe Smith aside) and yet Purdue had the highest 3pt % in college. That's all owing to his kickouts to the open corner man on the strong side.

Yesterday he was guarded mostly single-coverage by the 7'2 Clingan who is generally mocked as top 10 and is bigger than most NBA centres himself, so the kickouts weren't there and the **** Purdue guards were completely neutered from the 3. And he still abused Clingan for the most part. When Clingan was out, Edey went to town on the smaller guys, but Purdue just couldn't stop anyone on D.

Not an Edey hater, but the comment on him being the reason for the high FG cause of the lockouts not sure that really stands. Edey’s passing stats don’t really reflect that. With that being said I’m okay taking him with the Pacers pick. The issue with this years draft is thetr are a lot of Dion Wiaters Ricky Davis types of guys. Rather go Shepard at 6, Edey and then flyer French African dude at 31

[Randle McMurphy]

What do you guys think about this Terrence Shannon guy with our Pacers pick? Aside from him being old what is wrong with him? His game looks nice tbh.

Well he's facing charges for rape.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

What do you guys think about this Terrence Shannon guy with our Pacers pick? Aside from him being old what is wrong with him? His game looks nice tbh.

A rape charge with a court date in May. Don't think he'd be picked up just off that alone, he's not that good of a prospect and already older as well

[CazOnReal]

What do you guys think about this Terrence Shannon guy with our Pacers pick? Aside from him being old what is wrong with him? His game looks nice tbh.

Well he's facing charges for rape.

People saying "off court issues" are really downplaying what he did, holy sh*t.

[RoteSchroder]

What do you guys think about this Terrence Shannon guy with our Pacers pick? Aside from him being old what is wrong with him? His game looks nice tbh.

Well he's facing charges for rape.

People saying "off court issues" are really downplaying what he did, holy sh*t.

He could have good off-court chemistry with McDaniels