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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#301 » by microjacklin » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:34 am

Geez, you didn't even hear any Ingram is allow for practice in recent news
and people are worry he may net us more win to hurt our lottory odds?

also, with Kelly being ship out,
our center rotation will be really ugly if Yak not coming back soon
we are going to be destroy like vs the MEM today everygame especially Scottie seems become "Meh" again.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#302 » by Basketball_Jones » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:34 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:You can gurantee Masai is gonna overpay to keep him too


He will have to. Gave up a pick just to have him walk. Possibly lose draft positioning this year if he’s healthy and kills it for us. It’s just a lose lose situation almost. But difference here between this and the Yak trade is that he’s likely the most talented player on the roster even more than Scottie. They obviously didn’t have the patience to tank it out this year and dropped out of top 5 already. So at least we upgraded from Scottie via a trade if they were going to screw up their tank anyways.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#303 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:34 am

Haynes on NBATV says Ingram would like to stay in Toronto

ya i hope lol
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#304 » by SFour » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:34 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Los_29 wrote:The Pascal trade looks brilliant now.


We really turned Pascal into Ingram, Ochai, Walter, Shead, Mitchell

That's an insane haul.


and this was with Siakam's agent actively harming his trade value via the media
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#305 » by WWSRD » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:35 am

Raps are a serious franchise that spends money to win. League needs to reward the diligence and get us in top 3 of draft.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#306 » by PushDaRock » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:35 am

Mister Ze wrote:The Raptors haven’t been good since 2020 and after 5 years of retooling or whatever this was they finally have a core they can try to enter the playoffs with.

Ingram is a legit closer when healthy and having Barnes/RJ/Quickley/Poeltl gives him a decent enough supporting cast to compete in the playoffs.

Only issue is they should still tank away the season so we need to pray they land a top 10 pick in the draft who completes their core.

2026 playoffs confirmed


On paper, it would seem like he's an ideal closer with the ability to get off his shot but the clutch stats have been really bad in his career.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#307 » by HiMyNameIsTrey » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:35 am

Big Ingram fan so great trade tbh
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#308 » by TheRaptor! » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:35 am

rapluva wrote:Relax people..

Ingram is a scorer..a pure bucket getter...finally some offense on this Raps squad.

You don't get rid of Barrett who is not 25 yet...a young wing who tries to play defence but gets you 20 points a night...he is worth something.

If the Hawks strike out.. we should think of moving on from IQ for Trae Young in the off season...

Clippers and the Suns will break their teams soon... Sun's are already cooked without a decent center.

Bucks might be in trouble as well...

So we have..

IQ
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Poetel

Dick
Walter
Shead
Mitchell
Boucher

Will Boucher get traded tomorrow??

We will draft another player next season who will come off the bench.. I think this is why Masai brought in Ingram.. we have our starters..the bench doesn't look that bad..but needs a consistent scorer.


Mitchel RJ and Dick + 2026/2028 pick can be dangled the next time an actual star SG is available (like Donovan mitchell for example)

I like what we are doing, we will have a ECF team soon
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#309 » by SFour » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:36 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Haynes on NBATV says Ingram would like to stay in Toronto

ya i hope lol


why wouldn't he....can rehab as long as he likes this season, and he will get paid big.

For the most part big name players will re-sign with the Raptors, you just have to pay them well.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#310 » by Wise80 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:36 am

I get it. It's a buy low play. You can easily move him if it doesn't work and get a 1st round pick back. The real question is how much? We're going to be tied up with a bunch of money in a core that hasn't done anything and with a guy who can't stay healthy.

I'm not a fan of paying Ingram but I get it from a buy low perspective. I just hope he misses the rest of the year and this doesn't screw up our draft position. We don't need jakob 2.0

Going into next year with a high lotto pick and Ingram is a decent retool. We definitely need some more size.

IQ, Ingram, RJ, Scottie, Jakob

Shead, Dick, Walter, Ochai.

Is there a follow up trade or do they address it in the off season?
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#311 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:36 am

SFour wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Los_29 wrote:The Pascal trade looks brilliant now.


We really turned Pascal into Ingram, Ochai, Walter, Shead, Mitchell

That's an insane haul.


and this was with Siakam's agent actively harming his trade value via the media


Shead / Mitchell not part of Siakam tree
unless im missing something , those guys came from signing mcdaniels and fleeced SAC
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#312 » by Son Goku 25 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:36 am

People wanna complain for the sake of it.

We gave up 2 guys that were expiring and not part of our future for a legit all star esp in the east.. who happens to be 27. Ya, he might be a bit injury prone but that's something we've seen our medical staff fix before, dont think we've had a scorer like him in some time, he's pretty un-guardable.

The way i see it, basically accelerated our rebuild by getting a proven star and still have the ability to get a top 5 pick this draft while not losing our expiring contracts for nothing, that's pretty good if you ask me.

The return for Siakam is looking nicer as others have pointed out. The pacers pick next season hurts a bit but i think we still got the better deal.

Also, we got him without giving up RJ, Quickly or Boucher or even Yak. That team can easily be legit starting next season and i think Boucher can still be traded but i wouldn't mind bringing him back.

Move to a year or so from now and we can package RJ or Quickly in a bigger deal for another player or two.. we retained our important assets. People forget we are a Canadian team and this is one of the ways of us getting ahead of the curve cuz you know we won't be given anything.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#313 » by douggood » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
SFour wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
We really turned Pascal into Ingram, Ochai, Walter, Shead, Mitchell

That's an insane haul.


and this was with Siakam's agent actively harming his trade value via the media


Shead / Mitchell not part of Siakam tree
unless im missing something , those guys came from signing mcdaniels and fleeced SAC

we used pascal TPE for part of the sac trade
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#314 » by ill-Will03 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Los_29 wrote:The Pascal trade looks brilliant now.


We really turned Pascal into Ingram, Ochai, Walter, Shead, Mitchell

That's an insane haul.



The Masai haters awfully quiet about that....
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#315 » by Cyrus » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

i don't think you can add further protection to a pick that you have yet receive and has protections from another team, they could have done (2026 lesser first option though, between their own pick or Indy 2026 top 4 protected).

For team who has pretty good at drafting/finding young talent for the most part, we sure don't like to accummate draft assests/and use them to pick player. People talk about we got Jakobe at whatever last year.

Well grab the next Jakobe with 18 pick in 2026, or what happens if that Indy pick is #10 that year. Grabbing a good/decent rookie getting paid 2-3 mill sure beats getting a tier 2-3 star in the same vain as Pascal getting paid 30-35 mill, who can only play 50-60 games.

It didn't work with group of: Freddy, OG, Pascal, Barnes, and Yak

But it's gonna work with: IQ, RJ, Ingram, Barnes, Yak (With 1 of them never played a full healthy season, and is avg. like 50-60 games a year).
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#316 » by tdotrep2 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

artsncrafts wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:Why are people saying its the jak trade? how


He wont be out this whole season so hurts this years pick.
Gave up Indys pick which will be likely lotto with no protections.
Have to now re-sign Ingram.

This team is "tanking"

he'll be out most, and we just traded 2 rotation players
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#317 » by canada_dry » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

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dTox wrote:
AbC? wrote:A 1st round pick for the right to pay a dude who's always injured 35-40 million dollars
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And you guys are delusional if you think this team plans to rest him this season to preserve the tank.


He's as injury prone as OG,


He's also less valuable than OG and is the same age. At that point, we might as well have just held onto OG.
Do you guys not remember or know the history? OG wanted OUT. He quiet quit his last half season here until he got his wish. Keeping him wasnt an option.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#318 » by LoveMyRaps » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
SFour wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
We really turned Pascal into Ingram, Ochai, Walter, Shead, Mitchell

That's an insane haul.


and this was with Siakam's agent actively harming his trade value via the media


Shead / Mitchell not part of Siakam tree
unless im missing something , those guys came from signing mcdaniels and fleeced SAC


You're right my apologies. Pascal for Ingram + Ochai + Walter is still amazing.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#319 » by mihaic » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

douggood wrote:
artsncrafts wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:Why are people saying its the jak trade? how


He wont be out this whole season so hurts this years pick.
Gave up Indys pick which will be likely lotto with no protections.
Have to now re-sign Ingram.

This team is "tanking"

indy pick is top 4 protected, rolls over to 2027 also top 4, otherwise its seconds.

We should have traded the worse of ours and Pacers. But overall it's an ok trade.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#320 » by Spida888 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 5:37 am

Not too happy about giving up the Indy FRP but not surprised that Pels needed some incentive. Sounds like the Indy pick doesn’t have additional protections? It would be much better if it did.

At least we get to dump Kelly. Might have a slim chance to stay under the tax next season.

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