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Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3

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Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?

Anthony Davis
30
16%
Harrison Barnes
52
27%
Andre Drummond
20
10%
Perry Jones
9
5%
Quincy Miller
6
3%
Jeremy Lamb
17
9%
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
50
26%
Jared Sullinger
2
1%
Austin Rivers
4
2%
Other
3
2%
 
Total votes: 193

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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#321 » by JYD » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:32 pm

Waylon Mercy wrote:1. Drummond
2. A. Davis
3. J. Lamb
4. Barnes
5. Gilchrist
6. P Jones
7. Sullinger
8. Q Miller

Thats my draft board as of right now with best overall talent and fit on our team considered.


I agree with your top 3, but not Barnes and not Sullinger. I want no part of Sullinger and Barnes is just meh..I like Gilchrist more than him. But in terms of guys we should look at (high potential) Q Miller has it, Gilchrist and Barnes not so much, Q Miller would be my tentative number 4 there.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#322 » by fredericklove » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:40 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPA8OpzaTA[/youtube]

here's his freshman season, he's got the handle, it's just that he's been double team alot everytime he has the ball in his hand. Right now in 2nd year, he's more poise and learns what jump shots he should make and he's really using his athleticism well. There's just too much traffic in college game level. The nba game is alot more free around the key so I don't see how he'll struggle driving from perimeter, or struggle playing the SF compared to guys like beasley and derrick williams.
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Post#323 » by Dr. Nick » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:54 pm

fredericklove wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPA8OpzaTA[/youtube]

here's his freshman season, he's got the handle, it's just that he's been double team alot everytime he has the ball in his hand. Right now in 2nd year, he's more poise and learns what jump shots he should make and he's really using his athleticism well. There's just too much traffic in college game level. The nba game is alot more free around the key so I don't see how he'll struggle driving from perimeter, or struggle playing the SF compared to guys like beasley and derrick williams.


Lol from that video his handle looked pretty atrocious.
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Post#324 » by 7-Day Dray » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:59 pm

fredericklove wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzPA8OpzaTA[/youtube]

here's his freshman season, he's got the handle, it's just that he's been double team alot everytime he has the ball in his hand. Right now in 2nd year, he's more poise and learns what jump shots he should make and he's really using his athleticism well. There's just too much traffic in college game level. The nba game is alot more free around the key so I don't see how he'll struggle driving from perimeter, or struggle playing the SF compared to guys like beasley and derrick williams.


His handle is too loose and high to effectively be able to create on the perimeter. His height is actually a disadvantage in that regard because he has a high center of gravity, and has trouble getting his dribble low to the ground. His handles are good for his height, but not for a SF. That's why I thinks he's a faceup-4 in the NBA, not SF. At PF, he'll be able to use his exceptional quickness to beat big men off the dribble, but as a SF, the quickness advantage in diminished, and his handle isn't good enough to really create from the perimeter consistently. And I think he would have trouble guarding SFs.
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Re: Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 3 

Post#325 » by baulderdash77 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:17 am

7-Day Dray wrote:

His handle is too loose and high to effectively be able to create on the perimeter. His height is actually a disadvantage in that regard because he has a high center of gravity, and has trouble getting his dribble low to the ground. His handles are good for his height, but not for a SF. That's why I thinks he's a faceup-4 in the NBA, not SF. At PF, he'll be able to use his exceptional quickness to beat big men off the dribble, but as a SF, the quickness advantage in diminished, and his handle isn't good enough to really create from the perimeter consistently. And I think he would have trouble guarding SFs.


That's a legit argument. As a PF he's going to have such an overwhelming quickness advantage. As a SF he's not going to have the same quickness advantage, but he's going to have a huge reach and length advantage. So there's definitive pros and cons to both positions for him.

I like him on the Raptors as a SF because it compliments our cast of players better. But I think he's ultimately going to be better at PF. I think he has a very similar tools to Kevin Garnett when he was 19.

Of course what makes Garnett so special is his insane intensity and that's Perry Jones' major deficiency. I'm not sure without that intensity what kind of player Garnett would have developed into because it was so intertwined with his game.

So what NBA player is Kevin Garnett without the intensity?
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Post#326 » by mathgeek » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:39 am

The only thing is that video is from his first year where he was being too passive and not playing with intensity. This year he has improved a lot. The judgment is still out on him though because he hasn't played enough games. Tonight Baylor faces West Virginia, so we'll see how Perry plays against a tougher opponent.
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Post#327 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:54 am

Perry reminds me SO MUCH of a young T-Mac. Of course, T-Mac always had point guard handles, but other than that everything Perry does seems to be a carbon copy, including the attitude.
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Post#328 » by fredericklove » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:07 am

Baylor met their toughest matchup, interesting.
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Post#329 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:19 am

Stifling defense from WV. Perry looks extremely passive.
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Post#330 » by dTox » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:20 am

Damn tough start for Baylor, now we get to see how Miller and Jones respond to this sort of situation
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Post#331 » by fredericklove » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:22 am

whoa 13 with his beard!
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Post#332 » by fredericklove » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:26 am

jackson is such a low bbiq turnover midget
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Post#333 » by Undefeated » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:28 am

West Virginia getting calls their way tonight.
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Post#334 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:30 am

Kevin Jones BEASTMODE
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Post#335 » by fredericklove » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:36 am

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Post#336 » by Undefeated » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:38 am

Oh snap, Heslip raining jumpers.
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Post#337 » by bboyskinnylegs » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:41 am

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Post#338 » by kingz32 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:50 am

Baylor is a lock for final four.
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Post#339 » by fredericklove » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:08 am

its easy time
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Post#340 » by Marlo Stanfield » Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:11 am

Kevin Jones is proving to be a LEGIT prospect at this point!

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