Bruno Caboclo discussion thread

Dukenukem23 · Post #321 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:39 am

How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Chriscross · Post #322 » by **Chriscross** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:56 am

cold_cowboy wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:you've given up. you need more confidence. you've exchanged a debate of ideas for smugness. it doesn't add anything. much better to take a position. it's what scouts are payed to do.

you'd rather we all go to sleep. instead, you can go to sleep for 4 years, before the outcome become obvious, and then you can wake up and gloat about why we all should have gone to sleep too. personally, i'd rather be awake and wrong, than asleep and self-pretentious.

all these assumptions and i'm pretentious?

i say lets simmer the expectations and am called pretentious and to have my eyes checked. me saying that we should calm the expectations due to his summer league performance is wrong, yet those who base his stardom on that same set of games are without a doubt correct because it's the popular opinion?

so strange that somehow people assume that if you're not for one extreme, you're for the other. based on what i've seen of him and the circumstance in which a player like that has to succeed in this league is very limited, i'm neither pessimistic or overly optimistic about him.

You called him a scrub

Chriscross · Post #323 » by **Chriscross** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:57 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Your antics are getting old :noway:

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #324 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:59 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

is this going to be a daily thing with you? Please let me know because if so, it makes the decision to add you to the ignore list very easy.

Dukenukem23 · Post #325 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:04 am

I'm kidding around fellas...why is everyone so sensitive about this kid? I said in one thread yesterday the word "bustoclo" and everyone and their mothers come flaming away at me. Y'all need to take a chill pill , seriously....

Thespianoid · Post #326 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:05 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Man I liked your contributions to the pre-draft discussion. You had some good talent assessments and seemed level-headed.

But now you're just resorting to personal attacks on Bruno because you're angry and don't agree with the pick. When other posters began doing the same to you because they didn't agree with your viewpoint of Bruno as a scrub/bust, you cried to the mods about the forum rules on personal attacks. Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

I'm sure if you were less confrontational/reactionary when posting about Bruno, people would be willing to listen to and/or discuss your opinion. Think about it.

SharoneWright · Post #327 » by **SharoneWright** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:07 am

cold_cowboy wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:you've given up. you need more confidence. you've exchanged a debate of ideas for smugness. it doesn't add anything. much better to take a position. it's what scouts are payed to do.

you'd rather we all go to sleep. instead, you can go to sleep for 4 years, before the outcome become obvious, and then you can wake up and gloat about why we all should have gone to sleep too. personally, i'd rather be awake and wrong, than asleep and self-pretentious.

all these assumptions and i'm pretentious?

i say lets simmer the expectations and am called pretentious and to have my eyes checked. me saying that we should calm the expectations due to his summer league performance is wrong, yet those who base his stardom on that same set of games are without a doubt correct because it's the popular opinion?

so strange that somehow people assume that if you're not for one extreme, you're for the other. based on what i've seen of him and the circumstance in which a player like that has to succeed in this league is very limited, i'm neither pessimistic or overly optimistic about him.

we're cool.

but I said he's 3 seasons away. i.e.. realistic expectations.

you seem content to settle for willful ignorance and plausible deniability.

(sounds smart/but is kinda cheap)

IE. Debate the player. Don't tell people their opinion is meaningless... jmho

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #328 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:08 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:I'm kidding around fellas...why is everyone so sensitive about this kid? I said in one thread yesterday the word "bustoclo" and everyone and their mothers come flaming away at me. Y'all need to take a chill pill , seriously....

We just expect someone with numerous academic achievements to act a certain way. That's all.

Dukenukem23 · Post #329 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:09 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Man I liked your contributions to the pre-draft discussion. You had some good talent assessments and seemed level-headed.

But now you're just resorting to personal attacks on Bruno because you're angry and don't agree with the pick. When other posters began doing the same to you because they didn't agree with your viewpoint of Bruno as a scrub/bust, you cried to the mods about the forum rules on personal attacks. Hypocritical, no?

It was a joke man..because of the reaction I got from calling him bustoclo I thought it was funny...guess people are more sensitive about the pick than I thought.

For the record I see the upside with this kid, he has length, hard worker and an already nba ready jumpshot. I do however think guys this raw should be reserved for the second round, but that's just my opinion.

Kabookalu · Post #330 » by **Kabookalu** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:10 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:I'm kidding around fellas...why is everyone so sensitive about this kid? I said in one thread yesterday the word "bustoclo" and everyone and their mothers come flaming away at me. Y'all need to take a chill pill , seriously....

This kid is begging for attention at this point.

Chriscross · Post #331 » by **Chriscross** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:15 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:I'm kidding around fellas...why is everyone so sensitive about this kid? I said in one thread yesterday the word "bustoclo" and everyone and their mothers come flaming away at me. Y'all need to take a chill pill , seriously....

I don't understand how that was funny. Bustoclo? Umm...hahaha?

We aren't mind readers + you have already had a lot of negative things to say about Bruno

Anyways, if that wasn't your intention....we can just let it go

Dukenukem23 · Post #332 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:15 am

Choker wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:I'm kidding around fellas...why is everyone so sensitive about this kid? I said in one thread yesterday the word "bustoclo" and everyone and their mothers come flaming away at me. Y'all need to take a chill pill , seriously....

This kid is begging for attention at this point.

naw, just really bored...had a bad sports injury and I'm temporarily crippled so what else is there to do.

Crazy-Canuck · Post #333 » by **Crazy-Canuck** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:18 am

He's young and was basically a Masai lottery ticket (which I have no problems with).

The game is just too fast for him right and his body isnt fully developed yet.

He's just a goofy looking kid with long arms out on the court right now.

Dukenukem23 · Post #334 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:19 am

Chriscross wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:I'm kidding around fellas...why is everyone so sensitive about this kid? I said in one thread yesterday the word "bustoclo" and everyone and their mothers come flaming away at me. Y'all need to take a chill pill , seriously....

I don't understand how that was funny. Bustoclo? Umm...hahaha?

We aren't mind readers + you have already had a lot of negative things to say about Bruno

Anyways, if that wasn't your intention....we can just let it go

I can't even recall ripping on Bruno at all. Making jokes by saying CaBusto is about as far as it went from my recollection. Who was it that said "maybe I'm misremembering" roger Clemons?

Thespianoid · Post #335 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:20 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:
Thespianoid wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Man I liked your contributions to the pre-draft discussion. You had some good talent assessments and seemed level-headed.

But now you're just resorting to personal attacks on Bruno because you're angry and don't agree with the pick. When other posters began doing the same to you because they didn't agree with your viewpoint of Bruno as a scrub/bust, you cried to the mods about the forum rules on personal attacks. Hypocritical, no?

It was a joke man..because of the reaction I got from calling him bustoclo I thought it was funny...guess people are more sensitive about the pick than I thought.

For the record I see the upside with this kid, he has length, hard worker and an already nba ready jumpshot. I do however think guys this raw should be reserved for the second round, but that's just my opinion.

I'm not sure calling a player a bust is ever intended as a joke, but maybe I just don't get it.

See, you can engage in intelligent discussion rather than inflammatory one-liners. Yes, he would have probably been better in the 2nd round, but Masai was certain he would be taken before the Raptors 2nd round pick.

Plus, one source (among others) says that the Spurs or the Mavs would have taken Bruno at 30 and 34, respectively. Seeing as he'd already lost out on his first choice (Ennis), he wanted to make sure he didn't lose out on his second choice. Hence the pick at 20.

A bit early? Maybe. But sometimes you gotta take a risk if you truly believe a prospect will turn out to be something special. I think Masai wanted to avoid another Giannis situation, after he so desperately tried to buy a pick in the draft to get him and missed out.

C.Boshly · Post #336 » by **C.Boshly** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:24 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Man I liked your contributions to the pre-draft discussion. You had some good talent assessments and seemed level-headed.

But now you're just resorting to personal attacks on Bruno because you're angry and don't agree with the pick. When other posters began doing the same to you because they didn't agree with your viewpoint of Bruno as a scrub/bust, you cried to the mods about the forum rules on personal attacks. Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

I'm sure if you were less confrontational/reactionary when posting about Bruno, people would be willing to listen to and/or discuss your opinion. Think about it.

Why do you guys get so uptight about some of our prospects. Like is he a family member or something?

Technically he is a scrub right now as he is a massive project.

Dukenukem23 · Post #337 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:27 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:
Thespianoid wrote:
Man I liked your contributions to the pre-draft discussion. You had some good talent assessments and seemed level-headed.

But now you're just resorting to personal attacks on Bruno because you're angry and don't agree with the pick. When other posters began doing the same to you because they didn't agree with your viewpoint of Bruno as a scrub/bust, you cried to the mods about the forum rules on personal attacks. Hypocritical, no?

It was a joke man..because of the reaction I got from calling him bustoclo I thought it was funny...guess people are more sensitive about the pick than I thought.

For the record I see the upside with this kid, he has length, hard worker and an already nba ready jumpshot. I do however think guys this raw should be reserved for the second round, but that's just my opinion.

I'm not sure calling a player a bust is ever intended as a joke, but maybe I just don't get it.

See, you can engage in intelligent discussion rather than inflammatory one-liners. Yes, he would have probably been better in the 2nd round, but Masai was certain he would be taken before the Raptors 2nd round pick.

Plus, one source says that the Spurs or the Mavs would have taken Bruno at 30 and 34, respectively. Seeing as he'd already lost out on his first choice (Ennis), he wanted to make sure he didn't lose out on his second choice. Hence the pick at 20.

A bit early? Maybe. But sometimes you gotta take a risk if you truly believe a prospect will turn out to be something special. I think Masai wanted to avoid another Giannis situation, after he so desperately tried to buy a pick in the draft to get him and missed out.

I understand Ujiri's rationale behind the pick, but I still don't agree with it when there were so many prospects left in the board that had a much better chance to succeed in the NBA then Bruno. Maybe the gamble pays off, who knows. What's even more infuriating is the uninspiring pick of DeAndre Daniels. Neither coach Casey or Masai had much to say about this kid, which leads me to believe he wasn't a player they wanted. At 37 there were still several prospects left on the board with a lot more upside than a raw 22 year old tweener.

Thespianoid · Post #338 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:28 am

C.Boshly wrote:
Thespianoid wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:How did Scruboclo do tonight?

Man I liked your contributions to the pre-draft discussion. You had some good talent assessments and seemed level-headed.

But now you're just resorting to personal attacks on Bruno because you're angry and don't agree with the pick. When other posters began doing the same to you because they didn't agree with your viewpoint of Bruno as a scrub/bust, you cried to the mods about the forum rules on personal attacks. Seems a bit hypocritical, no?

I'm sure if you were less confrontational/reactionary when posting about Bruno, people would be willing to listen to and/or discuss your opinion. Think about it.

Why do you guys get so uptight about some of our prospects. Like is he a family member or something?

Technically he is a scrub right now as he is a massive project.

I'm not uptight? I'm just pointing out a discrepancy/hypocrisy. And trying to resolve a conflict. My post doesn't have much to do with Bruno at all.

Thespianoid · Post #339 » by **Thespianoid** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:29 am

Dukenukem23 wrote:I understand Ujiri's rationale behind the pick, but I still don't agree with it when there were so many prospects left in the board that had a much better chance to succeed in the NBA then Bruno. Maybe the gamble pays off, who knows. What's even more infuriating is the uninspiring pick of DeAndre Daniels. Neither coach Casey or Masai had much to say about this kid, which leads me to believe he wasn't a player they wanted. At 37 there were still several prospects left on the board with a lot more upside than a raw 22 year old tweener.

I agree with you on the Daniels pick. Not sure what he brings that we need, plus he's not really someone who we'd look to develop in the coming seasons. Maybe Masai wanted insurance in case Bruno didn't pan out or something. Have two raw SF's to develop for the future? I don't know.

Dukenukem23 · Post #340 » by **Dukenukem23** » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:37 am

Thespianoid wrote:
Dukenukem23 wrote:I understand Ujiri's rationale behind the pick, but I still don't agree with it when there were so many prospects left in the board that had a much better chance to succeed in the NBA then Bruno. Maybe the gamble pays off, who knows. What's even more infuriating is the uninspiring pick of DeAndre Daniels. Neither coach Casey or Masai had much to say about this kid, which leads me to believe he wasn't a player they wanted. At 37 there were still several prospects left on the board with a lot more upside than a raw 22 year old tweener.

I agree with you on the Daniels pick. Not sure what he brings that we need, plus he's not really someone who we'd look to develop in the coming seasons. Maybe Masai wanted insurance in case Bruno didn't pan out or something. Have two raw SF's to develop for the future? I don't know.

I think he might have even been there at 59, where I'd of happily taken him. I think Masai intended on trading 37 one way or another, either through that potential Memphis trade or another avenue. When that didn't happen they just took a player with a name the fans would have heard of, coming off a national championship.

On a scale from one to five, how high are you on Bruno?