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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#321 » by livnthedream416 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:12 pm

It hurts, but it's business...

He'll come around, #10 will be up in the rafters one day.
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#322 » by Live Free » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:12 pm

artsncrafts wrote:He didnt get snaked. Masai made it clear since day 1 of the offseason everyone is available in a trade. Woj also reported that both Lowry and DD were told that if a trade comes up they may be included and traded.

There was no snaking.


The source is derozan himself via instagram go look at the post
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#323 » by RaptorsLife » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:13 pm

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RaptorsLife wrote:I feel snaked believing every **** year he gonna learn to shoot 3s and play defense

I feel snaked every year hyping for the raptors and when playoffs come this guy never shows and we look like the Craptors

27 million a year. He should be lucky and grateful for us. Voted him twice in all star game when there were better players ahead of him

Good riddance Derozan but no. We the fans got snaked by you.


complete disgrace. my guess is your 5"2 and DeRozen would take one look at you and laugh. He's got $27m you have none.

I’m 6’1 and live in a very beautiful garage. Fix ur facts

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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#324 » by artsncrafts » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:17 pm

Live Free wrote:
artsncrafts wrote:He didnt get snaked. Masai made it clear since day 1 of the offseason everyone is available in a trade. Woj also reported that both Lowry and DD were told that if a trade comes up they may be included and traded.

There was no snaking.


The source is derozan himself via instagram go look at the post


DD is that you?
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#325 » by whysoserious » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:20 pm

Live Free wrote:
artsncrafts wrote:He didnt get snaked. Masai made it clear since day 1 of the offseason everyone is available in a trade. Woj also reported that both Lowry and DD were told that if a trade comes up they may be included and traded.

There was no snaking.


The source is derozan himself via instagram go look at the post


So what? Demar is feeling betrayed after being loyal, he's hurt. I'm not sure that you can take everything someone says as fact in that situation. People react emotionally and their perception of things is clouded. For all we know he may be right in that he was lied to. But that doesn't seem to fit how Masai operates and the realationships he has with his players. The situation has a lot more grey to it then Demar's perception/feelings right now.

I'm sure in his mind he feels like he was lied to but if you take a step back and look at the situation you can see there's a lot more to it.
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#326 » by Mikistan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:26 pm

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Live Free wrote:
artsncrafts wrote:He didnt get snaked. Masai made it clear since day 1 of the offseason everyone is available in a trade. Woj also reported that both Lowry and DD were told that if a trade comes up they may be included and traded.

There was no snaking.


The source is derozan himself via instagram go look at the post


So what? Demar is feeling betrayed after being loyal, he's hurt. I'm not sure that you can take everything someone says as fact in that situation. People react emotionally and their perception of things is clouded. For all we know he may be right in that he was lied to. But that doesn't seem to fit how Masai operates and the realationships he has with his players. The situation has a lot more grey to it then Demar's perception/feelings right now.

I'm sure in his mind he feels like he was lied to but if you take a step back and look at the situation you can see there's a lot more to it.

He's upset he has to go to a franchise that will hold him accountable and not just hand him the keys to the franchise and max contracts for mediocre all around play
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#327 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:29 pm

Mikistan wrote:
whysoserious wrote:
Live Free wrote:
The source is derozan himself via instagram go look at the post


So what? Demar is feeling betrayed after being loyal, he's hurt. I'm not sure that you can take everything someone says as fact in that situation. People react emotionally and their perception of things is clouded. For all we know he may be right in that he was lied to. But that doesn't seem to fit how Masai operates and the realationships he has with his players. The situation has a lot more grey to it then Demar's perception/feelings right now.

I'm sure in his mind he feels like he was lied to but if you take a step back and look at the situation you can see there's a lot more to it.

He's upset he has to go to a franchise that will hold him accountable and not just hand him the keys to the franchise and max contracts for mediocre all around play


lol. now he actually has to try or get chewed out by Pops.
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#328 » by whysoserious » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:31 pm

Mikistan wrote:He's upset he has to go to a franchise that will hold him accountable and not just hand him the keys to the franchise and max contracts for mediocre all around play


No he's not. This is the kind of stupid BS responses we get. He's upset cause he's loyal, that's his nature and he wanted to be that guy that played for Toronto his whole career. He wanted to be one of those rare guys that does that. It didn't happen. There's nothing in Demar's past that says he's afraid of being held accountable. This is a dumb narrative spewed by his haters.

You are allowed to not like his game and be happy he's gone. You don't need to make up stuff to justify that.
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Re: Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty 

Post#329 » by jeffya2 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:46 pm

maternal85 wrote:
The Boy wrote:Raptors needed to handle shipping Demar out with kid gloves and they blew it.
No star will stay here past their second contract ever again..if we get so lucky.


Relax, it's not that serious. The same way Lebron would never return to the cavs after the owner bashed him and his family ? Raptor fans are drama queens I swear. At least lets hear the organization side of the story. Maybe they're typing a thank you letter as we speak.


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I have never heard another franchise, make it so clear
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Post#330 » by Sherlock » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:50 pm

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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#331 » by Vlade Divac » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:22 pm

whysoserious wrote:
Mikistan wrote:He's upset he has to go to a franchise that will hold him accountable and not just hand him the keys to the franchise and max contracts for mediocre all around play


No he's not. This is the kind of stupid BS responses we get. He's upset cause he's loyal, that's his nature and he wanted to be that guy that played for Toronto his whole career. He wanted to be one of those rare guys that does that. It didn't happen. There's nothing in Demar's past that says he's afraid of being held accountable. This is a dumb narrative spewed by his haters.

You are allowed to not like his game and be happy he's gone. You don't need to make up stuff to justify that.


And you know all this cause ....

He was not afraid of being held accountable in Toronto, but he will be in Pop system and San Antonio. He was not afraid of being held accountable in Toronto because he HAS NEVER BEEN called on his inefficiency and horrible defense but was glorified beyond any logic and basketball reason. Of course he is upset now - no more empty stats line, standing on defense, max deals on minimal impact when it really matters. He struck gold here which he would never ever get in any other NBA city.
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Re: Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty 

Post#332 » by Scott Hall » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:23 pm

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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#333 » by whysoserious » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:25 pm

Vlade Divac wrote:
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Mikistan wrote:He's upset he has to go to a franchise that will hold him accountable and not just hand him the keys to the franchise and max contracts for mediocre all around play


No he's not. This is the kind of stupid BS responses we get. He's upset cause he's loyal, that's his nature and he wanted to be that guy that played for Toronto his whole career. He wanted to be one of those rare guys that does that. It didn't happen. There's nothing in Demar's past that says he's afraid of being held accountable. This is a dumb narrative spewed by his haters.

You are allowed to not like his game and be happy he's gone. You don't need to make up stuff to justify that.


And you know all this cause ....

He was not afraid of being held accountable in Toronto, but he will be in Pop system and San Antonio. He was not afraid of being held accountable in Toronto because he HAS NEVER BEEN called on his inefficiency and horrible defense but was glorified beyond any logic and basketball reason. Of course he is upset now - no more empty stats line, standing on defense, max deals on minimal impact when it really matters. He struck gold here which he would never ever get in any other NBA city.


So if he's never called out on it how do you know he's against being held accountable which was the original comment?

If you're going to call me out on that, please provide evidence to support what your stating about Demar and how he felt about what he got out of Toronto, cause if you don't have any all you're doing is making up BS cause you don't like the player, the role he was given, the money he was given and have wanted him out for a long time. And now that he's gone you're just using this BS to justify your hate.
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Re: Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty 

Post#334 » by Danny1616 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:28 pm

So many mixed feelings.

On one hand, I love Demar...he's arguably the greatest Raptor ever, gave us the longest stretch of elite play, improved every year, had a great attitude, never complained, was consistent and an iron man. The guy deserves his jersey retired the day his career is over...never have we had a great basketball player embrace the city like this.

On the other hand, we know Demar is limited and many questioned his ability to lead a team deep in the playoffs. His advanced stats are always poor.

Then on other hand it's sad because Demar kept improving on his flaws every year and is still young.
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Post#335 » by Local_NG_Idiot » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:30 pm

Pretty easy to be loyal to the Raps when you are being paid more than any other team could offer.
Pretty easy to be loyal to the Raps when an offense is tailored around you for years.
Pretty easy to be loyal when the Raps are a top seed and winning and competing in the playoffs for the last 5 years.

The very minute DeRozan doesn't get his way, that loyalty blows apart like a card house in a light breeze.
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Re: Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty 

Post#336 » by TrustFundBaby » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:30 pm

The Boshstrich wrote:I like Demar's work ethic, but this guy is sooo entitled. Living in his own world where he's a "superstar" but never once owned up to his constant playoff failures.

Regular season star, Playoff dud. Time to move on, good riddance sir


I cringe when I read people say we did our franchise player dirty

Us trading DD would be like POR trading McCollum,but to casuals it's like we traded Kobe
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#337 » by Vlade Divac » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:35 pm

whysoserious wrote:
Vlade Divac wrote:
whysoserious wrote:
No he's not. This is the kind of stupid BS responses we get. He's upset cause he's loyal, that's his nature and he wanted to be that guy that played for Toronto his whole career. He wanted to be one of those rare guys that does that. It didn't happen. There's nothing in Demar's past that says he's afraid of being held accountable. This is a dumb narrative spewed by his haters.

You are allowed to not like his game and be happy he's gone. You don't need to make up stuff to justify that.


And you know all this cause ....

He was not afraid of being held accountable in Toronto, but he will be in Pop system and San Antonio. He was not afraid of being held accountable in Toronto because he HAS NEVER BEEN called on his inefficiency and horrible defense but was glorified beyond any logic and basketball reason. Of course he is upset now - no more empty stats line, standing on defense, max deals on minimal impact when it really matters. He struck gold here which he would never ever get in any other NBA city.


So if he's never called out on it how do you know he's against being held accountable which was the original comment?

If you're going to call me out on that, please provide evidence to support what your stating about Demar and how he felt about what he got out of Toronto, cause if you don't have any all you're doing is making up BS cause you don't like the player, the role he was given, the money he was given and have wanted him out for a long time. And now that he's gone you're just using this BS to justify your hate.


All evidence you need is in the fact that he is GONE! Despite of cult status he undeservedly got here! Out of Raps! Nada mass!!!

If he was all you and other fanboys here think he is, he would be retired in TO and stayed here for ever. But luckily he is not. :D :D :D
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Re: Thoughts on DeRozan getting snaked? 

Post#338 » by whysoserious » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:40 pm

Vlade Divac wrote:All evidence you need is in the fact that he is GONE! Despite of cult status he undeservedly got here! Out of Raps! Nada mass!!!

If he was all you and other fanboys here think he is, he would be retired in TO and stayed here for ever. But luckily he is not. :D :D :D


I have no idea now what your point is. Again, I'm a fan of Demar. I'm not going to hide that but why does anyone need to throw shade on him on his way out? Why do we need to make up stuff like he doesn't like being held accountable? Or that he liked Toronto cause he could hide up here, get paid and be made the franchise?

I've never proclaimed him to be anything beyond what he is. But there's a lot of haters around here (which I have no problem with if you want to specifically talk about his on court contributions and the value of them) who are taking this to another level talking about his character and stuff off the court that they have no evidence of and trying to use that justify the move. It's unnecessary. Talk about it from a pure basketball perspective, there's enough there to justify the deal, no need to make up stuff.
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Re: Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty 

Post#339 » by VinBaker6 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:40 pm

How on Earth are you guys killing DeMar for being in his feelings? The Raptors have him everything, he didn't ask for it. They made him the number 1 option when he wasn't worthy, again he never asked for that. He got comfortable with that. It's human man.

Why do Raptor fans always gotta kill guys who leave? WE GOT KAWHI **** LEONARD, WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING IN THE STREETS.

Yet y'all wanna spend your time dumping on DeMar. Raptor fans confuse me man.
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Re: Demar Vents Frustration About Loyalty 

Post#340 » by Mikistan » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:41 pm

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No. He stayed because Toronto was giving more money than anyone else, barring a sign and trade.

And the "discount" he took, still put him above what any other team was able to offer him, and was in place not because he was helping us have a cap friendly deal, it was because Masai told him straight up... Look how you don't effect the game on defense, don't pass enough, and don't hit 3s,you aren't worth the full max
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