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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#321 » by HeadtopChunes » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:40 am

Actually just realized

Lamarcus Aldridge could be a one-year stop-gap starting center for us. Spurs shopped him at the deadline but they were asking too much.

We dont have to match his salary in the offseason, would probably be pretty cheap and decent defender who recently added stretch ability. Lamarcus considered signing here in 2015 too and Spurs look ready to move on with Derozan at the 4 and Poeltl as their starter.

Only thing be what do you trade for him?

Hes still off the books in 21 btw
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Post#322 » by nabbs » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:21 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:Actually just realized

Lamarcus Aldridge could be a one-year stop-gap starting center for us. Spurs shopped him at the deadline but they were asking too much.

We dont have to match his salary in the offseason, would probably be pretty cheap and decent defender who recently added stretch ability. Lamarcus considered signing here in 2015 too and Spurs look ready to move on with Derozan at the 4 and Poeltl as their starter.

Only thing be what do you trade for him?

Hes still off the books in 21 btw



Way too hard to find a third team to pull that off. We are kinda screwed for next year. Mccaw and Stanley better come back with jumpers because it’s loooijg dreadful. Watson for sure get converted but man we have to replace Marc, Serge, RHJ, Boucher. Our 4/5 depth is literally stripped bare.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#323 » by HeadtopChunes » Fri Sep 4, 2020 6:30 am

nabbs wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:Actually just realized

Lamarcus Aldridge could be a one-year stop-gap starting center for us. Spurs shopped him at the deadline but they were asking too much.

We dont have to match his salary in the offseason, would probably be pretty cheap and decent defender who recently added stretch ability. Lamarcus considered signing here in 2015 too and Spurs look ready to move on with Derozan at the 4 and Poeltl as their starter.

Only thing be what do you trade for him?

Hes still off the books in 21 btw



Way too hard to find a third team to pull that off. We are kinda screwed for next year. Mccaw and Stanley better come back with jumpers because it’s loooijg dreadful. Watson for sure get converted but man we have to replace Marc, Serge, RHJ, Boucher. Our 4/5 depth is literally stripped bare.


I’m missing something why do we need a third team?
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Post#324 » by Psubs » Fri Sep 4, 2020 1:47 pm

Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher
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Post#325 » by Raptorfan2012 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:46 pm

Psubs wrote:Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher


We may have to give up our 1st round pick, and I am fine with that. This may be the year we can buy a pick or two (since there are teams hurting for cash). Pacers can choose between TD or Matt Thomas, and SJ or McCaw. Would love to have Dipo on this team (provided he doesn't want to jet to Miami).
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Post#326 » by Psubs » Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:54 pm

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Psubs wrote:Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher


We may have to give up our 1st round pick, and I am fine with that. This may be the year we can buy a pick or two (since there are teams hurting for cash). Pacers can choose between TD or Matt Thomas, and SJ or McCaw. Would love to have Dipo on this team (provided he doesn't want to jet to Miami).


Once he gets here and plays with these guys and wins, he's not going to want to leave.
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Post#327 » by Mr Swagtastic » Fri Sep 4, 2020 9:17 pm

Psubs wrote:Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher


If that's what Indy would accept that's a done deal. Dipo had a bad year this year but he's still a upper tier SG. Don't think he gets back to his 24/5/5/2.5 season but he's a great piece who can go get his own offense. Indy probably asks for either the b pick or Terence Davis. Seen this bs article from some jabroni https://www.inquisitr.com/6261991/victor-oladipo-pacers-raptors-2020-offseason-trade/

Basically saying we have to give up Freddy and Anunoby to that I say F@CK NO! I wouldn't move OG for anything less than a legit superstar or superstar in the making. So no CJ McCullum, Dipo, 2020 draft picks etc. Like your moving him to get Giannis Antetokounmpo type of talent.
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Post#328 » by Mark_83 » Fri Sep 4, 2020 10:47 pm

Any chance the Magic move Vucevic? Seems like the perfect Gasol replacement. Can shoot the 3, pass, post up, and while he's not elite defensively, he's pretty good for an old school center.
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Post#329 » by mtcan » Fri Sep 4, 2020 10:55 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Any chance the Magic move Vucevic? Seems like the perfect Gasol replacement. Can shoot the 3, pass, post up, and while he's not elite defensively, he's pretty good for an old school center.

No way...Vuc's contract isn't going to fit the plan.

Gorgui Dieng on the other hand...
Will have an expiring contract for next season at around 17 million. I'm sure he could be traded into our available cap space for a future second round pick. Memphis has other big guys they would rather play than Gorgui.

He is also a decent rebounder and shot blocker. I did see him hit a 3 pointer as well in the bubble.

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Post#330 » by sidsid » Fri Sep 4, 2020 11:02 pm

Mr Swagtastic wrote:
Psubs wrote:Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher


If that's what Indy would accept that's a done deal. Dipo had a bad year this year but he's still a upper tier SG. Don't think he gets back to his 24/5/5/2.5 season but he's a great piece who can go get his own offense. Indy probably asks for either the b pick or Terence Davis. Seen this bs article from some jabroni https://www.inquisitr.com/6261991/victor-oladipo-pacers-raptors-2020-offseason-trade/

Basically saying we have to give up Freddy and Anunoby to that I say F@CK NO! I wouldn't move OG for anything less than a legit superstar or superstar in the making. So no CJ McCullum, Dipo, 2020 draft picks etc. Like your moving him to get Giannis Antetokounmpo type of talent.


Def not OG, but Fred is an easy inclusion here.

The math for the Giannis offseason is Giannis, Siakam, and 3rd star eating the majority of the cap space (with OGs relatively low cap hold on the books as well). Likely moving Norm's deal too to make it work.

Adding a third star and keeping Giannis means that Fred and Norm pretty much have to go the other way. Keeping a cheap asset like TD out of it is a must for a team that will be shallow after an cap offseason.

The nice thing about Oladipo's deal is that it links up with the offseason. You can always let him go and use the cap space/trade space to find another guy if he doesn't bounce back.

A perfect value trade if Indy fears the injury.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#331 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 5:57 am

sidsid wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:
Psubs wrote:Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher


If that's what Indy would accept that's a done deal. Dipo had a bad year this year but he's still a upper tier SG. Don't think he gets back to his 24/5/5/2.5 season but he's a great piece who can go get his own offense. Indy probably asks for either the b pick or Terence Davis. Seen this bs article from some jabroni https://www.inquisitr.com/6261991/victor-oladipo-pacers-raptors-2020-offseason-trade/

Basically saying we have to give up Freddy and Anunoby to that I say F@CK NO! I wouldn't move OG for anything less than a legit superstar or superstar in the making. So no CJ McCullum, Dipo, 2020 draft picks etc. Like your moving him to get Giannis Antetokounmpo type of talent.


Def not OG, but Fred is an easy inclusion here.

The math for the Giannis offseason is Giannis, Siakam, and 3rd star eating the majority of the cap space (with OGs relatively low cap hold on the books as well). Likely moving Norm's deal too to make it work.

Adding a third star and keeping Giannis means that Fred and Norm pretty much have to go the other way. Keeping a cheap asset like TD out of it is a must for a team that will be shallow after an cap offseason.

The nice thing about Oladipo's deal is that it links up with the offseason. You can always let him go and use the cap space/trade space to find another guy if he doesn't bounce back.

A perfect value trade if Indy fears the injury.


Yeah I agree. Getting Oladipo means Norm or FVV and probably our 2020 1st is going the other way. I would happily do something like Powell, McCaw, Johnson and TOR 2020 1st for Oladipo. Indy gets good value for a guy they're not going to resign anyway and we can sign Dipo to a long term below market value deal due to the bad season he's coming off of and the injury history. We have the best medical staff in the league so I'm confident we can get him back to the guy we all know and love.

What would be interesting is if Masai could work out a deal to bring in Myles Turner as well. With Ibaka likely to take a long term deal elsewhere, we should start thinking about how we're going to solidify our C spot for the future as well.

Anyway, Dipo would be a valuable piece to add to Siakam and could make us look really attractive to Giannis.
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Post#332 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 6:19 am

nabbs wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
nabbs wrote:

Seriously he is so worth it. He just isn't afraid.

ALso Psubs I need some centre options because Marc and Serge arent coming back. We gotta figure out who to sign


Favours would be my choice, smart, mobile and can rebound.

Shooting is an issue though, probably have to compensate with more small ball next season



Favours probably gets the bag. I am thinking Baynes or take a flier on Giles as your backup. I like these guys for the 4/5:

- Giles
- Nerlens Noel
- Plumlee
- Milsapp
- Baynes
- Vonleh
- Jahlil Okafor
- Willy Hernangomez
- Favours
- Thompson
- Myers Leonard

Who is realistic to add at MLE and Vet mins type salaries?

To me if Nick wants to play the swarming kind of defense he likes then you are probably thinking Noel, Baynes, Plumlee, Milsap, VOnleh, Favours?

It gets real tough


I like Hernangomez as a 2nd or 3 string guy. Could be a valuable pick up if we can get him cheap and on a long term deal.

Same thing with Giles. I think he has a chance to break out. Very versatile game, excellent passed for a big and still very young.

I like Noel as well for the defense.

Ultimately I think Gasol should get another year at the vets min and be our starter, maybe you take Noel as our primary back up and then Giles as your third string project big for the future.
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Post#333 » by LJKO » Sat Sep 5, 2020 6:22 am

WeTheNorth123 wrote:i would take a shot at Jahlil Okafor at the right price

I always wanted Okafor, Is he a free agent?
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Post#334 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 6:41 am

coca_scola wrote:
baller16 wrote:Dipo is a huge gamble right now and looks like a shell of his former self. It'd be intriguing if we run a 2 guard lineup of Beal & Dipo. Would be a massive upgrade over Lowry & FVV assuming Dipo returns to all-star form.

If Simmons gets traded, he'd be packaged with Horford's awful contract. That's about 70 mill in cap which is a no beuno as Horford has 3 years left on his contract


Personally wouldn't touch Oladipo. Most concerning thing about his play is that he's coming back from an injury of course, but on top of that his shot selection all year was absolutely atrocious. Whoever maxes him is going to really regret it.


I'm more worried about the injury rehab than the shot selection. For most of his career, Dipo picked his shots well and was a pretty efficient half court scorer - something this team desperately needs.

But I do agree with you on this - not for the max. Somewhere between $20-25M per over 4yrs is what id be offering. As close to $20M given that the franchise is taking quite a bit of long term risk on his health by offering a deal that long and that expensive.

Either way, he doesn't expire until the 2021, which is when Giannis becomes available. By then, we should have an idea of what we want to do with him long term.
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Post#335 » by Mattatron » Sat Sep 5, 2020 9:16 am

sidsid wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:
Psubs wrote:Oladipo?

Raptors trades: Norman Powell, Matt Thomas, Stanley Johnson and #59

PG Lowry - FVV - TD
SG FVV - Oladipo - Watson
SG OG - McCaw/Watson
PF Siakam - OG - #29
C Marc - Serge - Boucher


If that's what Indy would accept that's a done deal. Dipo had a bad year this year but he's still a upper tier SG. Don't think he gets back to his 24/5/5/2.5 season but he's a great piece who can go get his own offense. Indy probably asks for either the b pick or Terence Davis. Seen this bs article from some jabroni https://www.inquisitr.com/6261991/victor-oladipo-pacers-raptors-2020-offseason-trade/

Basically saying we have to give up Freddy and Anunoby to that I say F@CK NO! I wouldn't move OG for anything less than a legit superstar or superstar in the making. So no CJ McCullum, Dipo, 2020 draft picks etc. Like your moving him to get Giannis Antetokounmpo type of talent.


Def not OG, but Fred is an easy inclusion here.

The math for the Giannis offseason is Giannis, Siakam, and 3rd star eating the majority of the cap space (with OGs relatively low cap hold on the books as well). Likely moving Norm's deal too to make it work.

Adding a third star and keeping Giannis means that Fred and Norm pretty much have to go the other way. Keeping a cheap asset like TD out of it is a must for a team that will be shallow after an cap offseason.

The nice thing about Oladipo's deal is that it links up with the offseason. You can always let him go and use the cap space/trade space to find another guy if he doesn't bounce back.

A perfect value trade if Indy fears the injury.


No way Siakam will still be a raptor if Giannis comes via trade or FA. We need space and shooters.
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Post#337 » by Psubs » Sat Sep 5, 2020 7:44 pm

What about Davis Bertans for the MLE with max raises?

At 6'10, at least he can get his shot off instead of Matt Thomas?
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Post#338 » by Rapsfan07 » Sat Sep 5, 2020 9:49 pm

Psubs wrote:What about Davis Bertans for the MLE with max raises?

At 6'10, at least he can get his shot off instead of Matt Thomas?


Wouldn't mind but I think Bertans is going to get paid. MLE won't be enough
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Post#339 » by Mark_83 » Sun Sep 6, 2020 2:03 am

Psubs wrote:What about Davis Bertans for the MLE with max raises?

At 6'10, at least he can get his shot off instead of Matt Thomas?

What about Joe Harris or Bogdanovic?
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Post#340 » by Psubs » Sun Sep 6, 2020 6:45 am

Mark_83 wrote:
Psubs wrote:What about Davis Bertans for the MLE with max raises?

At 6'10, at least he can get his shot off instead of Matt Thomas?

What about Joe Harris or Bogdanovic?


I would think that both would be offered more than the MLE.
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