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Post#321 » by Double Bubble » Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:09 am

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Right, but his reason for making the video in the first place was to help people understand that "wet market" is not the standard name for a "filthy exotic meat market" as everyone outside
China was beginning to believe.

The FB posts with comments like "China allowing wet markets to re-open! WTF is wrong with these people!?" makes the entirety of China look bad when it shouldn't.

There needs to be an understanding of the difference.

My guess is this PSA from a white guy in China is motivated by fear of becoming another Michael Kovrig. Otherwise why in the hell anyone would anyone go out of their way to defend a totalitarian state?



You could be on to something here. This white guy's PSA to defend his totalitarian state could be motivated by fear. Or just maybe, just maybe he wants to show the world a little bit of the truth from all the misinformation he sees online. You may not be aware of this but there are actually Canadians, Americans, Europeans, etc (basically all races in the world) that lives in China right now and actually loves it there. They're there because they want to and they can leave any time. They're not all locked up in chains in this totalitarian state despite what you may have heard being stuck in your basement and never walking outside to see the world for yourself.

Still waiting for your opinion on the Chinese state. You called me out lets hear your response. You're a dictatorship kinda guy eh?
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Post#322 » by Kevin Willis » Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:32 pm

Something different, downtown Toronto on a Saturday. The new norm would be similar to this for a few years.

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Post#323 » by Wo1verine » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:00 pm

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Expect something similar to Saskatchewan's plan.

https://regina.ctvnews.ca/first-phase-of-re-opening-sask-economy-to-begin-on-may-4-1.4908473
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Post#325 » by Metallikid » Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:02 am

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Expect something similar to Saskatchewan's plan.

https://regina.ctvnews.ca/first-phase-of-re-opening-sask-economy-to-begin-on-may-4-1.4908473


Since our cases are not a comparable number to Sask. it may be the same plan but it will happen much later.
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Post#326 » by ItsDanger » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:53 am

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Humidity increases significantly in May in Ontario, should help reduce transmission
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Post#327 » by Westside Gunn » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:34 am

Humidity won't do nothin. Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, India all have hot and humid weathers, yet they keep going up in numbers. Thailand seems to be doing well, but majority of these hot/humid countries, their climate hasn't really helped them in the fight.
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Post#328 » by Vaclac » Sat Apr 25, 2020 10:35 am

That chart shows that sunlight actually matters the most of those factors, and that will be higher in our summer than it is in any of those places that are hot year round. Of course essentially no transmission is occurring outside anyway, so not sure how much it will help. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.04.20053058v1
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Post#329 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:53 pm

So yeah, that Stanford “study” was trash. Bad antibody test and terrible recruitment.
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More numbers coming out about infection rates.
https://www.miamidade.gov/releases/2020-04-24-sample-testing-results.asp
Our data from this week and last tell a very similar story. In both weeks, 6% of participants tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies, which equates to 165,000 Miami-Dade County residents. This figure directly contrasts with testing site data, which indicated that there 10,000 positive cases, suggesting that the actual number of infections is potentially 16.5 times the number of those captured through testing sites and local hospitals alone. Using statistical methods that account for the limitations of the test (sensitivity and specificity), we are 95% certain that the true amount of infection lies between 4.4% and 7.9% of the population, or between 123,000 and 221,000 residents. These results are similar but not identical to other recent, non-randomized testing programs that have been conducted throughout the United States.

Importantly, of the individuals who tested positive for the antibodies each week, more than half had NO symptoms in the seven to fourteen days prior to screening. Quantifying the number of asymptomatic individuals with infection is critically important for public health, as these individuals do not feel sick or unwell, and may unintentionally transmit the virus to others. This is particularly true for vulnerable population groups who may be at increased risk for hospitalization and death from COVID-19.


So less than the 50-85 times more prevalent than the Stanford numbers would suggest. Which makes sense considering their terrible recruitment and weak test.
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Post#330 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:02 pm

Well get some **** evidence please.

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Post#331 » by ruckus » Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:52 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
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Humidity increases significantly in May in Ontario, should help reduce transmission


At this point, I wouldn't trust anything coming out of the White House. We already know that the Republicans want people back at work regardless of the risks to their health.
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Post#332 » by hankscorpioLA » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:24 pm

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Humidity increases significantly in May in Ontario, should help reduce transmission


Reduce? Sure. But by how much?

The fact is that most people spend most of their time in climate controlled environments, where none of this is relevant.

If anything, this would mean relaxing guidance on outdoor activities. But it doesn't change anything as far as overall social distancing.
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Post#333 » by ItsDanger » Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:28 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:Well get some **** evidence please.

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If you read between the lines than it becomes clear about WHO's motives. Of course there isn't evidence yet that antibodies prevent subsequent infection, it's a NEW virus. However, this is accepted fact for other viruses (same strains).
At some point even the sheep must recognize WHO is not part of any solution, they are a big part of the problem.
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Post#334 » by ItsDanger » Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:41 pm

This is general pattern of past coronaviruses which match humidity pattern. I would suggest naysayers to reduce AC use and maintain indoor humidity between 40-60%. People have kept their indoor environments too dry lately. I would also not extrapolate to other nations entire geography as it is not always comparable. For those who know history, a recommendation after 1918 spanish flu was to use outdoor hospitals (maybe not practical but reasoning is still valid).

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Post#335 » by Fairview4Life » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:05 pm

“Naysayers” and “sheep”. Right.
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Post#336 » by Raps in 4 » Sat Apr 25, 2020 9:05 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:I'm honestly a bit worried about my job security now. Working remote has me literally doing almost nothing nowadays. In the office there seems to be more communication and delegation of work to me, now I'm just kind of on stand by. There were layoffs not far before covid hit, I can easily see another round with me included. If it does happen I hope it's only a temp layoff. Anybody else struggling with remote work? It's great a couple of times a week, but every single day just isn't for me.


I like it more. Don't have to wake up a few hours before my shift to commute and try to look presentable. If I'm not working on a time sensitive project I can work on it whenever during the day. My home office setup is also a lot more ergonomic than my office setup.
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Post#337 » by Zeno » Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:55 pm

Westside Gunn wrote:Humidity won't do nothin. Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Pakistan, India all have hot and humid weathers, yet they keep going up in numbers. Thailand seems to be doing well, but majority of these hot/humid countries, their climate hasn't really helped them in the fight.


I could be way off but aren't Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia,UAE and Pakistan pretty dry most of the year? India, I believe, is pretty dry in some regions too, though I think they have regions where there periods of pretty intense humidity. I think Thailand is pretty humid throughout though. Regardless, I think people are looking for ways to get their hopes up that there is an easy way out of this.
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Post#338 » by Childs » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:27 am

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Wow, after living in the States for 3 yrs, I almost forgot what some degree of common sense sounds like
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Post#339 » by Westside Gunn » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:33 am

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Basketball_Jones wrote:I'm honestly a bit worried about my job security now. Working remote has me literally doing almost nothing nowadays. In the office there seems to be more communication and delegation of work to me, now I'm just kind of on stand by. There were layoffs not far before covid hit, I can easily see another round with me included. If it does happen I hope it's only a temp layoff. Anybody else struggling with remote work? It's great a couple of times a week, but every single day just isn't for me.


I like it more. Don't have to wake up a few hours before my shift to commute and try to look presentable. If I'm not working on a time sensitive project I can work on it whenever during the day. My home office setup is also a lot more ergonomic than my office setup.


Some people I know have seen a reduction in hours and their pays. 15-25% reduction in pay. Others have been laid off. The job I almost got was cancelled right when the 'Rona hit. The people who's probation periods coincided with the pandemic will most be sent home. Tough times ahead. A temporary UBI will be necessary for a couple of years.

A lot of people will need to get adjusted to working from home. Specially the old school micro managers that never had a work from home culture from their originating countries.
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Post#340 » by Kabookalu » Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:56 am

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Wow, after living in the States for 3 yrs, I almost forgot what some degree of common sense sounds like


That was refreshing to hear. I'm so used to the democrats in this country tiptoeing around republican propaganda, so that they're not offending a potential undecided voter.
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