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Post#321 » by Marmoset » Sun Jan 9, 2022 4:02 am

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Based on what?! Austin Rivers?? lol

1. Griffin Sr isn't the head coach like Doc, he won't be able to call the shots and play favorites -- this isn't the AAU. Nor has anyone seen Nurse base his rotations what others' think

2. AJ seems like a much more humble & mature player/person than Rivers was coming in as a rookie

We're in need of a backup SG, we just paid GT Jr and if we're lucky enough for him to fall to where we draft, he's not going to come in assuming he deserves the starting role -- go listen to any interviews of the kid. He's humble and his dad taught him nothing is given, it's earned. If anything his dad has likely instilled a lot of our franchise's values into AJ these past few years as he's been maturing as a player and Griff Sr has learnt here. The kid is still getting his legs back, it's a perfect situation to learn behind Gary and for the coaches to obviously work with him extensively as he develops.

What's not a smart move is passing on a kid who may have an all-star like potential on something as baseless as having a family member that's an employee here as well. Not all places suffer from nepotism lol and not every kid grows up feeling entitled.


Just to add to this, I think it would be a little like drafting for positional need. If you avoid drafting a PG because you already have a PG, it ignores that in a couple of years you may find yourself now in need of a PG. Similarly, just because Adrian Griffin is with our team now doesn't mean he will be into the future.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#322 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Jan 9, 2022 7:19 am

Bacot looked terrific against Virginia.

Could be another big on our radar.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#323 » by Dalek » Sun Jan 9, 2022 7:13 pm

Dereon Seaborn from NC State has to be climbing up the boards. At 6'7 he is averaging 20 and 10 and while he isn't a shooter, what makes him unique is the burst he has for his size.

Imagining him as slasher is fun. His highlights show how he can Eurostep and split doubles. A very weird fun player who puts up huge scoring games. He is a player you can mold. He had a hard upbringing but seems like a guy who can handle responsibility.

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#324 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Sun Jan 9, 2022 8:53 pm

Serious question: Is there a way to make the playoffs & still get a top 5 pick? Like if Masai fleeces someone in a trade?

Is it possible? A clear answer to this would be very much greatly appreciated! :)
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Post#325 » by Indeed » Sun Jan 9, 2022 9:58 pm

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:Serious question: Is there a way to make the playoffs & still get a top 5 pick? Like if Masai fleeces someone in a trade?

Is it possible? A clear answer to this would be very much greatly appreciated! :)


Top 5 pick would be difficult, but it can happen for a lottery pick.
Scenario 1) Warriors last season. They traded away Russell for Wiggins and a protected 1st round pick. After some time, the protected 1st round pick became a top 5 pick
Scenario 2) Magic last season. They traded away Vucevic for picks, and the Bulls didn't make the playoffs which ended up being in the lottery.

Either you trade a starter+ level player to a bad team that never gets better, and the protected pick you got from the trade became unprotected (require time)

Or you trade a starter+ level player to a bad team and they are willing to give up an unprotected pick, and that team did not do well that season.
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Post#326 » by Ell Curry » Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:33 am

GoRapstheoriginal wrote:Serious question: Is there a way to make the playoffs & still get a top 5 pick? Like if Masai fleeces someone in a trade?

Is it possible? A clear answer to this would be very much greatly appreciated! :)


We could maybe trade a big asset, probably OG, to one of New Orleans, Portland, Sacramento, Indiana, Atlanta or the Knicks for their unprotected first or some sort of swap and if they still suck (say if we dealt him to Portland and then Lillard got hurt) and end up with a very high pick. Tough to see another route, other than the same deal with Barnes (felt horrible to even type), Van Vleet or Siakam.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#327 » by will » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:27 am

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Post#328 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:56 am

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GoRapstheoriginal wrote:Serious question: Is there a way to make the playoffs & still get a top 5 pick? Like if Masai fleeces someone in a trade?

Is it possible? A clear answer to this would be very much greatly appreciated! :)


We could maybe trade a big asset, probably OG, to one of New Orleans, Portland, Sacramento, Indiana, Atlanta or the Knicks for their unprotected first or some sort of swap and if they still suck (say if we dealt him to Portland and then Lillard got hurt) and end up with a very high pick. Tough to see another route, other than the same deal with Barnes (felt horrible to even type), Van Vleet or Siakam.


Well there is also no need to make the trade. There is no generational talent in the draft. It's very possible Barnes could be better than anyone in the lottery. Is Jabari Smith better than Barnes? If you have to think about it, keep what we have and try to get lucky later on (don't trade Barnes).
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#329 » by Indeed » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:01 pm

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GoRapstheoriginal wrote:Serious question: Is there a way to make the playoffs & still get a top 5 pick? Like if Masai fleeces someone in a trade?

Is it possible? A clear answer to this would be very much greatly appreciated! :)


We could maybe trade a big asset, probably OG, to one of New Orleans, Portland, Sacramento, Indiana, Atlanta or the Knicks for their unprotected first or some sort of swap and if they still suck (say if we dealt him to Portland and then Lillard got hurt) and end up with a very high pick. Tough to see another route, other than the same deal with Barnes (felt horrible to even type), Van Vleet or Siakam.


Well there is also no need to make the trade. There is no generational talent in the draft. It's very possible Barnes could be better than anyone in the lottery. Is Jabari Smith better than Barnes? If you have to think about it, keep what we have and try to get lucky later on (don't trade Barnes).


And it doesn't mean anyone behind top 5 wouldn't be the top players in the draft (Leonard, Gainnis, etc. are in the 15th).
You know when OG dropped all the way to our pick, things can happen.

Trading up to the lottery may require some assets (eg. Spurs traded George Hill to swap for the Leonard pick), but it happens. Top 5 is just for lazy people not understanding the draft (eg. Suggs over Barnes).
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#330 » by Psubs » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:25 pm



He's up to 37.7% from Euro 3 and from the highlights he's shooting from NBA range. :nod:

Is he a 6'10 rich man's version of Caleb Houstan?
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#331 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:14 pm

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He's up to 37.7% from Euro 3 and from the highlights he's shooting from NBA range. :nod:

Is he a 6'10 rich man's version of Caleb Houstan?


Question is would he be available at our pick? It's almost better his shot went bad so he could drop. Like Caleb is probably dropping because he's been slumping.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#332 » by Indeed » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:45 pm

I wonder if Lee will rise a bit more with his shooting and passing, but his lateral quickness is a concern.

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#333 » by Psubs » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:53 pm

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Psubs wrote:

He's up to 37.7% from Euro 3 and from the highlights he's shooting from NBA range. :nod:

Is he a 6'10 rich man's version of Caleb Houstan?


Question is would he be available at our pick? It's almost better his shot went bad so he could drop. Like Caleb is probably dropping because he's been slumping.


True. Bane lasted until pick #30 from 2020. Garuba was probably floating around the early teens in some mocks and ended up at #23 last draft. Just hope for other risers.

I'm hoping that Filip Petrusev dominating then Adriatic league as an junior aged player and being stashed instead of being brought over, helps keep Jovic in the early to mid-20's.

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#334 » by Psubs » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:55 pm

Indeed wrote:I wonder if Lee will rise a bit more with his shooting and passing, but his lateral quickness is a concern.



Kapono 2.0, 2nd rounder at best.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#335 » by Indeed » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:57 pm

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I get Brandon Knight vibes from Washington. He's shooting better than Knight did at Kentucky, but their stats are fairly similar.


Perhaps he can develop a better passing.
Previous holder was Wall with 16 assists.
I got to think Tshiebwe hitting those foul line jumper has a lot to do with it, but I believe Tshiebwe lacks the vertical explosiveness to be like Ibaka.

Anyway, Washington with 17 assists.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#336 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:36 am

I trust in Masai. Let's see where this season takes us.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#337 » by Indeed » Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:44 pm

Moussa Diabate seems to be the type of guy we will look at
7'3 wingspan (I hope he measures longer), can handle the ball a bit in transition

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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#338 » by OakleyDokely » Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:50 pm

This is a draft where Masai with the 15th pick will do better than teams at 7 or 8.
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Post#339 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:10 pm

Indeed wrote:Moussa Diabate seems to be the type of guy we will look at
7'3 wingspan (I hope he measures longer), can handle the ball a bit in transition



He may need to stay for his sophomore year though he turns 20 this month. At least he plays in a tough Big 10 conference.

What about his countryman Kamagate, who turns 21 next week? Blocks shots and shoots 70% FTs.

At 6'10, I'd still try for Jovic. :D
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Post#340 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:32 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:This is a draft where Masai with the 15th pick will do better than teams at 7 or 8.


The Raptors are drafting around #20.

6'6 Dyson Daniels, maybe like Lonzo Ball?

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