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With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter!

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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#321 » by Appostis » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:00 am

Backlog of 6'4-6'6" guys.

What's the best hope at a proper wing? dick growing a few inches(haha) ?

RB/GT/Dick/Walter/OA.. all 2 guards
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Post#322 » by ItsDanger » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:01 am

Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#323 » by links135 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:02 am

tanuki1031 wrote:
Risk101 wrote:I hope he makes them eat their words.


Read on Twitter


I may not be an analytics guy but I trust my parameter eyes and JaKobe got that dog in him. I don't see how this guy's model failed to capture such an important parameter tangible.

JaKobe will fit right in with the Raptor squadron and their parameter.


His model takes pure production, which would put Westbrook as below a portugese league with his 9 MPG as a freshman and well, Wade didn't even play his freshman year.

So while there's valid points in it, that's not how prospects also work.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#324 » by mdenny » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:05 am

ItsDanger wrote:Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.



He decidedly does NOT finish through contact. He was horrible in finishing at the rim.
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Post#325 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:05 am

TimeForChange wrote:hate the pick


did you want another dick pick?
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Post#326 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:10 am

ItsDanger wrote:Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.


46% finisher at the rim (this is abysmal)

unproven shooter who shot 36% from the field and 29% from downtown at adidas 3ssb

the only tiny glimmer of hope for jakobe is that he had 7.6 rebounds a game in high school and could maybe up his REB% which would help make him less empty calories

but unless he improves his rim finishing and midrange game starting is out of the question and even then who knows whats there

ultimately bobby and masai are trying to find shooters to surround scottie with just like they said. only that you need to do more than just shoot to win basketball games.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#327 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:16 am

TimeForChange wrote:
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Sounds like they gonna make the pick.

They will take calls in the morning and are willing to trade down if they can still get their guy


Doubt it. Never do
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#328 » by nestea » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:20 am

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Bobby's a cool dude
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#329 » by TimeForChange » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:22 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:hate the pick


did you want another dick pick?

Wanted someone who fit the team better. Too many guards who don’t do anything great.

He’s a good kid and hard worker. Just don’t see the fit in Toronto.

I did post on here two weeks ago that the Raps probably would have taken him if they kept #8. I don’t think they imagined he would be there at 19.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#330 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:24 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.


46% finisher at the rim (this is abysmal)

unproven shooter who shot 36% from the field and 29% from downtown at adidas 3ssb

the only tiny glimmer of hope for jakobe is that he had 7.6 rebounds a game in high school and could maybe up his REB% which would help make him less empty calories

but unless he improves his rim finishing and midrange game starting is out of the question and even then who knows whats there

ultimately bobby and masai are trying to find shooters to surround scottie with just like they said. only that you need to do more than just shoot to win basketball games.


I mean, we're talking about the 19th pick in a draft in which the Spurs, a team with a desperate need for complementary talent and no cap crunch to speak of, traded the 8th pick for a pick 7 years from now. What exactly could we have expected here? I know the numbers look bad inside the arc, but the wingspan is real, he does have great mechanics even if the %s weren't there, and there is some upside there when it comes to defense at the POA.

I am curious who you wanted in that spot.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#331 » by TimeForChange » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:24 am

Mascot wrote:Guard who cant shoot...nice....bye GTJ you have been replaced.

GTJ is coming back
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#332 » by grant101 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:25 am

So this is probably copium, but Bobby briefly alludes to a knee injury Walter was dealing with last year. I wonder if this partially explains some of his drop off? If we get early season Walter, that changes things. Still wouldn't have been my pick, but it becomes more defensible
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Post#333 » by SpezNc » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:28 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:Not mocked anywhere to toronto. Raps kept it close. Didnt think he would be the pick but looking to see how this works out

I read somewhere that his highschool performance showed a lot more on ball creation fwiw


Was mocked by Vecenie

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He had missi up until 2 days ago. No one thought he’d really slide to 19


It was Walter, Missi and then back Walter today

The Ringer also had Walter a while back

But in the ESPN platform I think the odds of Walter being available at 19 was like 3%.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#334 » by Appostis » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:29 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.


46% finisher at the rim (this is abysmal)

unproven shooter who shot 36% from the field and 29% from downtown at adidas 3ssb

the only tiny glimmer of hope for jakobe is that he had 7.6 rebounds a game in high school and could maybe up his REB% which would help make him less empty calories

but unless he improves his rim finishing and midrange game starting is out of the question and even then who knows whats there

ultimately bobby and masai are trying to find shooters to surround scottie with just like they said. only that you need to do more than just shoot to win basketball games.



That's my concern.

Unless he gains a few inches and can improve at the ring...team still has the same weaknesses.
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Post#335 » by ItsDanger » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:31 am

Wasn't efficient but I'm speaking to his abilities. Big12 is a VERY tough conference for freshmen.
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Post#336 » by links135 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:34 am

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ItsDanger wrote:Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.



He decidedly does NOT finish through contact. He was horrible in finishing at the rim.


No but he gets to the line so much he still had a 54% TS.

Also the one chart you can find for shooting looks like it shows only 8 feet and under, which doesn't tell the whole story at the rim itself.
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Post#337 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:35 am

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Bobby out here controlling the crowd; guys' growing up in front of our eyes.

Interesting that he said they had already started fighting over who to take at 31 and that they had discussed using 31 to get into the back-end of the draft.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#338 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:36 am

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ItsDanger wrote:Seeks out contact and finishes through it, his shooting looks fine, can hit contested shots, mid range is a work in progress, defense is probably the weak aspect at this point but has good size.


46% finisher at the rim (this is abysmal)

unproven shooter who shot 36% from the field and 29% from downtown at adidas 3ssb

the only tiny glimmer of hope for jakobe is that he had 7.6 rebounds a game in high school and could maybe up his REB% which would help make him less empty calories

but unless he improves his rim finishing and midrange game starting is out of the question and even then who knows whats there

ultimately bobby and masai are trying to find shooters to surround scottie with just like they said. only that you need to do more than just shoot to win basketball games.



That's my concern.

Unless he gains a few inches and can improve at the ring...team still has the same weaknesses.


He has a massive wingspan. He needs to get bigger and stronger. Both to finish stronger at the rim and to create separation in the mid-range.
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#339 » by billy_hoyle » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:38 am

Why does everyone say he has good size and call him a wing?

If he's 6'4" he is tiny for a wing, but has good size as a combo guard. I honestly didn't look into Walter because a.) he was always mocked out of our range
b.) he seemed like an undersized two guard, which is like last on my want list

That said Masai and co are good drafters. He was a top high school recruit that was balling out to start the year ( and cooled down hard for like a month). Does he have some combo guard playmaking/handles? That would make this a much better fitting pick (kinda like McCain).
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Re: With the 19th Pick, the Raptors select Ja'Kobe Walter! 

Post#340 » by And1Skip » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:40 am

grant101 wrote:So this is probably copium, but Bobby briefly alludes to a knee injury Walter was dealing with last year. I wonder if this partially explains some of his drop off? If we get early season Walter, that changes things. Still wouldn't have been my pick, but it becomes more defensible


I was trying to find out more about the injury but I found nothing. Walter played in all 35 games for Baylor and averaged 32 mins per game with no noticeable game with low minutes other than an early season one where he got into foul trouble early.

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