Yea, he's actually similar. More advanced in his offense, probably a little weaker defensively right now. But having both those 2 and ingram on the court... sheesh
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Yea, he's actually similar. More advanced in his offense, probably a little weaker defensively right now. But having both those 2 and ingram on the court... sheesh
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niQ wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:My top 13 currently.
1. Cooper Flagg, 6'9, F, FRESH
32.0 MIN, 19.9 PPG, 7.6 REB, 4.0 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.2 BLK, .483 FG (13.5 ATT), .370 3PT (3.8 ATT), .814 FT (6.5 ATT), .595 TS,15.6 BPM
2. Dylan Harper, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.6 MIN, 21.4 PPG, 5.4 REB, 4.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.6 BLK, .483 FG (15.2 ATT), .327 3PT (5.4 ATT), .742 FT (6.6 ATT), .582 TS,8.8 BPM
3. Kasparas Jakucionis, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 5.6 REB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.3 BLK, .475 FG (10.3 ATT), .350 3PT (5.1 ATT), .833 FT (6.0 ATT), .622 TS,9.0 BPM
4. Ace Bailey, 6'10, F, FRESH
33.3 MIN, 20.6 PPG, 8.2 REB, 1.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, .472 FG (16.6 ATT), .380 3PT (4.3 ATT), .696 FT (4.3 ATT), .552 TS,6.2 BPM
5. V.J. Edgecombe, 6'5, G, FRESH
31.3 MIN, 15.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.2 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, .456 FG (11.5 ATT), .385 3PT (4.4 ATT), .795 FT (3.5 ATT), .569 TS,12.0 BPM
6. Tre Johnson, 6'6, G, FRESH
33.2 MIN, 19.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 2.6 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, .439 FG (15.3 ATT), .386 3PT (6.7 ATT), .874 FT (3.8 ATT), .565 TS,8.2 BPM
7. Khaman Maluach, 7'2 C, FRESH
20.3 MIN, 7.9 PPG, 6.3 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.2 STL, .708 FG (4.4 ATT), .222 3PT (0.2 ATT), .731 FT (2.2 ATT), .727 TS,8.7 BPM
8. Liam McNeeley, 6'8, F, FRESH
30.8 MIN, 15.4 PPG, 6.4 REB, 2.3 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .429 FG (10.6 ATT), .376 3PT (5.3 ATT), .850 FT (5.0 ATT), .591 TS,6.5 BPM
9. Kon Knueppel, 6'7, G/F, FRESH
29.5 MIN, 13.2 MIN, 3.6 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.2 BLK, .447 FG (9.8 ATT), .378 3PT (6.0 ATT), .881 FT (2.5 ATT), .601 TS,8.8 BPM
10. Adou Thiero, 6'8, F, JUN
28.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 6.3 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, .562 FG (9.7 ATT), .250 3PT (1.6 ATT), .697 FT (6.7 ATT), .620 TS,10.9 BPM
11. Jeremiah Fears, 6'4, G, FRESH
28.5 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 3.8 REB, 3.7 AST, 1.8 STL, 0.1 BLK, .443 FG (10.9 ATT), 253 3PT (3.5 ATT), .842 FT (5.5 ATT), .561 TS,4.5 BPM
12. Jase Richardson, 6'3, G, FRESH
22.8 MIN, 10.3 PPG, 2.7 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.3 BLK, .529 FG (6.7 ATT), .386 3PT (2.5 ATT), .869 FT (2.7 ATT), .651 TS,9.6 BPM
13. Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'8 F/C, SOPH
30.8 MIN, 15.6 PPG, 8.7 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.4 STL, 1.5 BLK, .581 FG (10.3 ATT), .304 3PT (1.0 ATT), .661 FT (5.0 ATT), .614 TS,10.7 BPM
I know it's probably already been said, but I really think if we don't land a top 5 pick, we're going for Maluach.
Maluach scares me the most out of these prospects. I feel like there's so much talent in this top 10 to draft a guy with such high bust potential. I very well could be wrong. I just don't see special when I watch him. He's huge but he doesn't seem like has much offensive ability. Wondering what people see in him? What is the vision? I hope I don't come off as a ****, I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. Maybe I'm wrong on him.
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Cooper Flagg is what you get when you fuse Barnes and Banchero.
lol judging by your name I think you might enjoy the fusion process.
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youngRAPZ wrote:
Cooper Flagg is what you get when you fuse Barnes and Banchero.
lol judging by your name I think you might enjoy the fusion process.
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If Barnes weren't a *** like Bonner called him out for being and had better athleticism to get to the hole.
please watch the language.
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:youngRAPZ wrote:Son Goku 25 wrote:
He's almost like a better version of Barnes.
Cooper Flagg is what you get when you fuse Barnes and Banchero.
lol judging by your name I think you might enjoy the fusion process.
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If Barnes weren't a pussy like Bonner called him out for being and had better athleticism to get to the hole.
I don’t agree with what you called Barnes but that’s why I said fused with Banchero.
Barnes on D
Banchero on O
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Not having Newell in the lottery is crazy. He's one of the few role playing bigs that projects to be able to stretch the floor. The defense, rebounding, second jump, and transition offense he brings would help any team immediately.
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Dalek wrote:JT Toppin with a 41 point game. He has unlimited energy and a jumphook that won't quit. His motor is why you draft him in the second.
junkyard energy bigs with relatively low free throw and dunk rates tend to not translate well to the NBA, it's just a historical fact. jt's performance against good teams this year hasn't been where it needs to be either.
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They're not related (at least not to my knowledge) but pretty fun that both Obi Toppin and JT Toppin had career games yesterday.
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Can someone explain to me what is keeping Danny Wolf from being a top prospect?

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Thaddy wrote:Not having Newell in the lottery is crazy. He's one of the few role playing bigs that projects to be able to stretch the floor. The defense, rebounding, second jump, and transition offense he brings would help any team immediately.
Agreed he’s firmly in my top 5
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NotMyKawhi wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:My top 12 currently.
1. Cooper Flagg, 6'9, F, FRESH
32.0 MIN, 19.9 PPG, 7.6 REB, 4.0 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.2 BLK, .483 FG (13.5 ATT), .370 3PT (3.8 ATT), .814 FT (6.5 ATT), .595 TS,15.6 BPM
2. Dylan Harper, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.6 MIN, 21.4 PPG, 5.4 REB, 4.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.6 BLK, .483 FG (15.2 ATT), .327 3PT (5.4 ATT), .742 FT (6.6 ATT), .582 TS,8.8 BPM
3. Kasparas Jakucionis, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 5.6 REB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.3 BLK, .475 FG (10.3 ATT), .350 3PT (5.1 ATT), .833 FT (6.0 ATT), .622 TS,9.0 BPM
4. Ace Bailey, 6'10, F, FRESH
33.3 MIN, 20.6 PPG, 8.2 REB, 1.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, .472 FG (16.6 ATT), .380 3PT (4.3 ATT), .696 FT (4.3 ATT), .552 TS,6.2 BPM
5. V.J. Edgecombe, 6'5, G, FRESH
31.3 MIN, 15.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.2 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, .456 FG (11.5 ATT), .385 3PT (4.4 ATT), .795 FT (3.5 ATT), .569 TS,12.0 BPM
6. Tre Johnson, 6'6, G, FRESH
33.2 MIN, 19.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 2.6 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, .439 FG (15.3 ATT), .386 3PT (6.7 ATT), .874 FT (3.8 ATT), .565 TS,8.2 BPM
7. Khaman Maluach, 7'2 C, FRESH
20.3 MIN, 7.9 PPG, 6.3 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.2 STL, .708 FG (4.4 ATT), .222 3PT (0.2 ATT), .731 FT (2.2 ATT), .727 TS,8.7 BPM
8. Liam McNeeley, 6'8, F, FRESH
30.8 MIN, 15.4 PPG, 6.4 REB, 2.3 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .429 FG (10.6 ATT), .376 3PT (5.3 ATT), .850 FT (5.0 ATT), .591 TS,6.5 BPM
9. Kon Knueppel, 6'7, G/F, FRESH
29.5 MIN, 13.2 MIN, 3.6 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.2 BLK, .447 FG (9.8 ATT), .378 3PT (6.0 ATT), .881 FT (2.5 ATT), .601 TS,8.8 BPM
10. Adou Thiero, 6'8, F, JUN
28.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 6.3 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, .562 FG (9.7 ATT), .250 3PT (1.6 ATT), .697 FT (6.7 ATT), .620 TS,10.9 BPM
11. Jase Richardson, 6'3, G, FRESH
22.8 MIN, 10.3 PPG, 2.7 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.3 BLK, .529 FG (6.7 ATT), .386 3PT (2.5 ATT), .869 FT (2.7 ATT), .651 TS,9.6 BPM
12. Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'8 F/C, SOPH
30.8 MIN, 15.6 PPG, 8.7 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.4 STL, 1.5 BLK, .581 FG (10.3 ATT), .304 3PT (1.0 ATT), .661 FT (5.0 ATT), .614 TS,10.7 BPM
It's crazy how Nolan outplayed and beat Kas twice this summer and is no where near the lottery.
Going to play against kids> playing against adults
Not showing growth year to year means more than a couple of games here and there. It's all small sample, but Nolan sucks against grown-ups.
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TorontoRapsFan wrote:Can someone explain to me what is keeping Danny Wolf from being a top prospect?
I think he's a lottery guy, or possibly top 10 personally. I think he's basically Mehmet Okur as a starting point.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:My top 12 currently.
1. Cooper Flagg, 6'9, F, FRESH
32.0 MIN, 19.9 PPG, 7.6 REB, 4.0 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.2 BLK, .483 FG (13.5 ATT), .370 3PT (3.8 ATT), .814 FT (6.5 ATT), .595 TS,15.6 BPM
2. Dylan Harper, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.6 MIN, 21.4 PPG, 5.4 REB, 4.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.6 BLK, .483 FG (15.2 ATT), .327 3PT (5.4 ATT), .742 FT (6.6 ATT), .582 TS,8.8 BPM
3. Kasparas Jakucionis, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 5.6 REB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.3 BLK, .475 FG (10.3 ATT), .350 3PT (5.1 ATT), .833 FT (6.0 ATT), .622 TS,9.0 BPM
4. Ace Bailey, 6'10, F, FRESH
33.3 MIN, 20.6 PPG, 8.2 REB, 1.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, .472 FG (16.6 ATT), .380 3PT (4.3 ATT), .696 FT (4.3 ATT), .552 TS,6.2 BPM
5. V.J. Edgecombe, 6'5, G, FRESH
31.3 MIN, 15.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.2 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, .456 FG (11.5 ATT), .385 3PT (4.4 ATT), .795 FT (3.5 ATT), .569 TS,12.0 BPM
6. Tre Johnson, 6'6, G, FRESH
33.2 MIN, 19.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 2.6 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, .439 FG (15.3 ATT), .386 3PT (6.7 ATT), .874 FT (3.8 ATT), .565 TS,8.2 BPM
7. Khaman Maluach, 7'2 C, FRESH
20.3 MIN, 7.9 PPG, 6.3 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.2 STL, .708 FG (4.4 ATT), .222 3PT (0.2 ATT), .731 FT (2.2 ATT), .727 TS,8.7 BPM
8. Liam McNeeley, 6'8, F, FRESH
30.8 MIN, 15.4 PPG, 6.4 REB, 2.3 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .429 FG (10.6 ATT), .376 3PT (5.3 ATT), .850 FT (5.0 ATT), .591 TS,6.5 BPM
9. Kon Knueppel, 6'7, G/F, FRESH
29.5 MIN, 13.2 MIN, 3.6 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.2 BLK, .447 FG (9.8 ATT), .378 3PT (6.0 ATT), .881 FT (2.5 ATT), .601 TS,8.8 BPM
10. Adou Thiero, 6'8, F, JUN
28.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 6.3 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, .562 FG (9.7 ATT), .250 3PT (1.6 ATT), .697 FT (6.7 ATT), .620 TS,10.9 BPM
11. Jase Richardson, 6'3, G, FRESH
22.8 MIN, 10.3 PPG, 2.7 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.3 BLK, .529 FG (6.7 ATT), .386 3PT (2.5 ATT), .869 FT (2.7 ATT), .651 TS,9.6 BPM
12. Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'8 F/C, SOPH
30.8 MIN, 15.6 PPG, 8.7 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.4 STL, 1.5 BLK, .581 FG (10.3 ATT), .304 3PT (1.0 ATT), .661 FT (5.0 ATT), .614 TS,10.7 BPM
It's crazy how Nolan outplayed and beat Kas twice this summer and is no where near the lottery.
Going to play against kids> playing against adults
Not showing growth year to year means more than a couple of games here and there. It's all small sample, but Nolan sucks against grown-ups.
yep it's the same reason why risacher is proving to not be a good shooter, his splits were stuck in mud for years. his overall game was to be honest.
at least with some of these other french kids like essengue there has been some degree of improvement to their games as they've scaled up to higher levels of comp.
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Psubs wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:It's crazy how Nolan outplayed and beat Kas twice this summer and is no where near the lottery.
Going to play against kids> playing against adults
KasJak turns the ball over too much too and should be just considered as a regular sized, below the rim SG. I would say that he would be like a Jakobe Walter with worse POA defense. DND for me.
Thinking about players like players. Is Braden Smith like Reed Sheppard? Really shoot the 3. Reed was sophomore aged last season.
Really, he looks like Chris Paul that needed 1 more year of college. Got out of Edey's shadow and showing that he can carry the team.
he has a lot of the same tendencies that chris paul has stylistically/mentally. physically he has held up again and again vs much larger and longer players. my only concern with braden is just how deep the range is on his 3pt shot. i'm not concerned about his height.
but i love everything about him. he clears jamal shead as a prospect.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:My top 12 currently.
1. Cooper Flagg, 6'9, F, FRESH
32.0 MIN, 19.9 PPG, 7.6 REB, 4.0 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.2 BLK, .483 FG (13.5 ATT), .370 3PT (3.8 ATT), .814 FT (6.5 ATT), .595 TS,15.6 BPM
2. Dylan Harper, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.6 MIN, 21.4 PPG, 5.4 REB, 4.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.6 BLK, .483 FG (15.2 ATT), .327 3PT (5.4 ATT), .742 FT (6.6 ATT), .582 TS,8.8 BPM
3. Kasparas Jakucionis, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 5.6 REB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.3 BLK, .475 FG (10.3 ATT), .350 3PT (5.1 ATT), .833 FT (6.0 ATT), .622 TS,9.0 BPM
4. Ace Bailey, 6'10, F, FRESH
33.3 MIN, 20.6 PPG, 8.2 REB, 1.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, .472 FG (16.6 ATT), .380 3PT (4.3 ATT), .696 FT (4.3 ATT), .552 TS,6.2 BPM
5. V.J. Edgecombe, 6'5, G, FRESH
31.3 MIN, 15.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.2 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, .456 FG (11.5 ATT), .385 3PT (4.4 ATT), .795 FT (3.5 ATT), .569 TS,12.0 BPM
6. Tre Johnson, 6'6, G, FRESH
33.2 MIN, 19.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 2.6 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, .439 FG (15.3 ATT), .386 3PT (6.7 ATT), .874 FT (3.8 ATT), .565 TS,8.2 BPM
7. Khaman Maluach, 7'2 C, FRESH
20.3 MIN, 7.9 PPG, 6.3 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.2 STL, .708 FG (4.4 ATT), .222 3PT (0.2 ATT), .731 FT (2.2 ATT), .727 TS,8.7 BPM
8. Liam McNeeley, 6'8, F, FRESH
30.8 MIN, 15.4 PPG, 6.4 REB, 2.3 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .429 FG (10.6 ATT), .376 3PT (5.3 ATT), .850 FT (5.0 ATT), .591 TS,6.5 BPM
9. Kon Knueppel, 6'7, G/F, FRESH
29.5 MIN, 13.2 MIN, 3.6 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.2 BLK, .447 FG (9.8 ATT), .378 3PT (6.0 ATT), .881 FT (2.5 ATT), .601 TS,8.8 BPM
10. Adou Thiero, 6'8, F, JUN
28.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 6.3 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, .562 FG (9.7 ATT), .250 3PT (1.6 ATT), .697 FT (6.7 ATT), .620 TS,10.9 BPM
11. Jase Richardson, 6'3, G, FRESH
22.8 MIN, 10.3 PPG, 2.7 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.3 BLK, .529 FG (6.7 ATT), .386 3PT (2.5 ATT), .869 FT (2.7 ATT), .651 TS,9.6 BPM
12. Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'8 F/C, SOPH
30.8 MIN, 15.6 PPG, 8.7 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.4 STL, 1.5 BLK, .581 FG (10.3 ATT), .304 3PT (1.0 ATT), .661 FT (5.0 ATT), .614 TS,10.7 BPM
It's crazy how Nolan outplayed and beat Kas twice this summer and is no where near the lottery.
Going to play against kids> playing against adults
Not showing growth year to year means more than a couple of games here and there. It's all small sample, but Nolan sucks against grown-ups.
Kind of missing the point. He outplayed and beat him twice just months ago. If he went to play college instead of against men after that his draft stock would be much higher.
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Psubs wrote:NotMyKawhi wrote:It's crazy how Nolan outplayed and beat Kas twice this summer and is no where near the lottery.
Going to play against kids> playing against adults
KasJak turns the ball over too much too and should be just considered as a regular sized, below the rim SG. I would say that he would be like a Jakobe Walter with worse POA defense. DND for me.
Thinking about players like players. Is Braden Smith like Reed Sheppard? Really shoot the 3. Reed was sophomore aged last season.
Really, he looks like Chris Paul that needed 1 more year of college. Got out of Edey's shadow and showing that he can carry the team.
he has a lot of the same tendencies that chris paul has stylistically/mentally. physically he has held up again and again vs much larger and longer players. my only concern with braden is just how deep the range is on his 3pt shot. i'm not concerned about his height.
but i love everything about him. he clears jamal shead as a prospect.
How about legendary Malachi Flynn?
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Joan Beringer is a guy that may track a surprise lottery pick. In watching him this year at KK Cedevita Olimpija, he is showing his talent as a centre. Really reminds me of Jarrett Allen the way he can change the game with shotblocking and dunking at the rim.
He is only 18 and playing professionally. ESPN now has him at 24, but I could see him climbing higher given his play.
In 17 minutes 4.5 pts 4.5 rebs and 1.3 blocks
Per36 mins: 9.4/9.5 and 2.7 blocks which is comparable to Khaman Maluach. Joan is the same age but playing against men.
Size-wise he is about 6'10 but I think he is still growing at 18 and I am not sure if he has been officially measured.
HIs former coach talked about what stands out:
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/fiba-u19-basketball-world-cup-2025/news/how-to-go-first-time-playing-to-projected-first-round-draft-pick-in-3-years
I think the athleticism pops, the motor and physicality and his frame will easily add weight. I might like him more than Khaman because I think Maluach is a little stiff to me.
He is only 18 and playing professionally. ESPN now has him at 24, but I could see him climbing higher given his play.
In 17 minutes 4.5 pts 4.5 rebs and 1.3 blocks
Per36 mins: 9.4/9.5 and 2.7 blocks which is comparable to Khaman Maluach. Joan is the same age but playing against men.
Size-wise he is about 6'10 but I think he is still growing at 18 and I am not sure if he has been officially measured.
HIs former coach talked about what stands out:
"It’s normal for him to improve, but not this fast. No one expected this. But the combination of his genetic predispositions, his work ethic, his humility, and his ability to manage his emotions. It’s scary."
https://www.fiba.basketball/en/events/fiba-u19-basketball-world-cup-2025/news/how-to-go-first-time-playing-to-projected-first-round-draft-pick-in-3-years
I think the athleticism pops, the motor and physicality and his frame will easily add weight. I might like him more than Khaman because I think Maluach is a little stiff to me.
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Dexjackson wrote:niQ wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:My top 13 currently.
1. Cooper Flagg, 6'9, F, FRESH
32.0 MIN, 19.9 PPG, 7.6 REB, 4.0 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.2 BLK, .483 FG (13.5 ATT), .370 3PT (3.8 ATT), .814 FT (6.5 ATT), .595 TS,15.6 BPM
2. Dylan Harper, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.6 MIN, 21.4 PPG, 5.4 REB, 4.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.6 BLK, .483 FG (15.2 ATT), .327 3PT (5.4 ATT), .742 FT (6.6 ATT), .582 TS,8.8 BPM
3. Kasparas Jakucionis, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 5.6 REB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.3 BLK, .475 FG (10.3 ATT), .350 3PT (5.1 ATT), .833 FT (6.0 ATT), .622 TS,9.0 BPM
4. Ace Bailey, 6'10, F, FRESH
33.3 MIN, 20.6 PPG, 8.2 REB, 1.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, .472 FG (16.6 ATT), .380 3PT (4.3 ATT), .696 FT (4.3 ATT), .552 TS,6.2 BPM
5. V.J. Edgecombe, 6'5, G, FRESH
31.3 MIN, 15.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.2 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, .456 FG (11.5 ATT), .385 3PT (4.4 ATT), .795 FT (3.5 ATT), .569 TS,12.0 BPM
6. Tre Johnson, 6'6, G, FRESH
33.2 MIN, 19.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 2.6 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, .439 FG (15.3 ATT), .386 3PT (6.7 ATT), .874 FT (3.8 ATT), .565 TS,8.2 BPM
7. Khaman Maluach, 7'2 C, FRESH
20.3 MIN, 7.9 PPG, 6.3 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.2 STL, .708 FG (4.4 ATT), .222 3PT (0.2 ATT), .731 FT (2.2 ATT), .727 TS,8.7 BPM
8. Liam McNeeley, 6'8, F, FRESH
30.8 MIN, 15.4 PPG, 6.4 REB, 2.3 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .429 FG (10.6 ATT), .376 3PT (5.3 ATT), .850 FT (5.0 ATT), .591 TS,6.5 BPM
9. Kon Knueppel, 6'7, G/F, FRESH
29.5 MIN, 13.2 MIN, 3.6 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.2 BLK, .447 FG (9.8 ATT), .378 3PT (6.0 ATT), .881 FT (2.5 ATT), .601 TS,8.8 BPM
10. Adou Thiero, 6'8, F, JUN
28.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 6.3 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, .562 FG (9.7 ATT), .250 3PT (1.6 ATT), .697 FT (6.7 ATT), .620 TS,10.9 BPM
11. Jeremiah Fears, 6'4, G, FRESH
28.5 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 3.8 REB, 3.7 AST, 1.8 STL, 0.1 BLK, .443 FG (10.9 ATT), 253 3PT (3.5 ATT), .842 FT (5.5 ATT), .561 TS,4.5 BPM
12. Jase Richardson, 6'3, G, FRESH
22.8 MIN, 10.3 PPG, 2.7 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.3 BLK, .529 FG (6.7 ATT), .386 3PT (2.5 ATT), .869 FT (2.7 ATT), .651 TS,9.6 BPM
13. Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'8 F/C, SOPH
30.8 MIN, 15.6 PPG, 8.7 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.4 STL, 1.5 BLK, .581 FG (10.3 ATT), .304 3PT (1.0 ATT), .661 FT (5.0 ATT), .614 TS,10.7 BPM
I know it's probably already been said, but I really think if we don't land a top 5 pick, we're going for Maluach.
Maluach scares me the most out of these prospects. I feel like there's so much talent in this top 10 to draft a guy with such high bust potential. I very well could be wrong. I just don't see special when I watch him. He's huge but he doesn't seem like has much offensive ability. Wondering what people see in him? What is the vision? I hope I don't come off as a ****, I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. Maybe I'm wrong on him.
I think you said it. The guy is HUGE! He's also very mobile, does a good job finishing around the basket, hits his FTs and will probably shoot it one day (though I think you're disappointed if you expect him to be a stretch big right away). There just arent that many coordinated, mobile 7+ footers out there.
You're also buying into the fact that he's only 18 and looks to be a hard worker/quick learner. It's definitely a potential play, but his baseline of skills gives him a fairly high floor IMO (Alex Len was a far inferior prospect and is still in the league!). Just look at how he played for South Sudan, or how much better he looked than Chomche while at NBA Africa.
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Dexjackson wrote:niQ wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:My top 13 currently.
1. Cooper Flagg, 6'9, F, FRESH
32.0 MIN, 19.9 PPG, 7.6 REB, 4.0 AST, 1.6 STL, 1.2 BLK, .483 FG (13.5 ATT), .370 3PT (3.8 ATT), .814 FT (6.5 ATT), .595 TS,15.6 BPM
2. Dylan Harper, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.6 MIN, 21.4 PPG, 5.4 REB, 4.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.6 BLK, .483 FG (15.2 ATT), .327 3PT (5.4 ATT), .742 FT (6.6 ATT), .582 TS,8.8 BPM
3. Kasparas Jakucionis, 6'6, G, FRESH
31.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 5.6 REB, 5.2 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.3 BLK, .475 FG (10.3 ATT), .350 3PT (5.1 ATT), .833 FT (6.0 ATT), .622 TS,9.0 BPM
4. Ace Bailey, 6'10, F, FRESH
33.3 MIN, 20.6 PPG, 8.2 REB, 1.3 AST, 1.1 STL, 1.4 BLK, .472 FG (16.6 ATT), .380 3PT (4.3 ATT), .696 FT (4.3 ATT), .552 TS,6.2 BPM
5. V.J. Edgecombe, 6'5, G, FRESH
31.3 MIN, 15.0 PPG, 5.1 REB, 3.2 AST, 2.2 STL, 0.7 BLK, .456 FG (11.5 ATT), .385 3PT (4.4 ATT), .795 FT (3.5 ATT), .569 TS,12.0 BPM
6. Tre Johnson, 6'6, G, FRESH
33.2 MIN, 19.3 PPG, 2.9 REB, 2.6 AST, 0.9 STL, 0.3 BLK, .439 FG (15.3 ATT), .386 3PT (6.7 ATT), .874 FT (3.8 ATT), .565 TS,8.2 BPM
7. Khaman Maluach, 7'2 C, FRESH
20.3 MIN, 7.9 PPG, 6.3 REB, 0.4 AST, 1.1 BLK, 0.2 STL, .708 FG (4.4 ATT), .222 3PT (0.2 ATT), .731 FT (2.2 ATT), .727 TS,8.7 BPM
8. Liam McNeeley, 6'8, F, FRESH
30.8 MIN, 15.4 PPG, 6.4 REB, 2.3 AST, 0.5 STL, 0.3 BLK, .429 FG (10.6 ATT), .376 3PT (5.3 ATT), .850 FT (5.0 ATT), .591 TS,6.5 BPM
9. Kon Knueppel, 6'7, G/F, FRESH
29.5 MIN, 13.2 MIN, 3.6 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.2 BLK, .447 FG (9.8 ATT), .378 3PT (6.0 ATT), .881 FT (2.5 ATT), .601 TS,8.8 BPM
10. Adou Thiero, 6'8, F, JUN
28.2 MIN, 16.0 PPG, 6.3 REB, 1.9 AST, 1.7 STL, 0.8 BLK, .562 FG (9.7 ATT), .250 3PT (1.6 ATT), .697 FT (6.7 ATT), .620 TS,10.9 BPM
11. Jeremiah Fears, 6'4, G, FRESH
28.5 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 3.8 REB, 3.7 AST, 1.8 STL, 0.1 BLK, .443 FG (10.9 ATT), 253 3PT (3.5 ATT), .842 FT (5.5 ATT), .561 TS,4.5 BPM
12. Jase Richardson, 6'3, G, FRESH
22.8 MIN, 10.3 PPG, 2.7 REB, 1.9 AST, 0.7 STL, 0.3 BLK, .529 FG (6.7 ATT), .386 3PT (2.5 ATT), .869 FT (2.7 ATT), .651 TS,9.6 BPM
13. Collin Murray-Boyles, 6'8 F/C, SOPH
30.8 MIN, 15.6 PPG, 8.7 REB, 2.5 AST, 1.4 STL, 1.5 BLK, .581 FG (10.3 ATT), .304 3PT (1.0 ATT), .661 FT (5.0 ATT), .614 TS,10.7 BPM
I know it's probably already been said, but I really think if we don't land a top 5 pick, we're going for Maluach.
Maluach scares me the most out of these prospects. I feel like there's so much talent in this top 10 to draft a guy with such high bust potential. I very well could be wrong. I just don't see special when I watch him. He's huge but he doesn't seem like has much offensive ability. Wondering what people see in him? What is the vision? I hope I don't come off as a ****, I'm asking out of genuine curiosity. Maybe I'm wrong on him.
Yea, he's still extremely raw to me. Probably still a high risk high reward type player.
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Queen and CMB are the safest picks for our team imo. Their floors are much higher than Khaman.








