Shams: BI extension (3 Years $120M) **Presser at 5:15pm** Link Pg. 24

[OakleyDokely]

Scottie, Ingram, and Dylan Harper are going to be a problem

[phanman]

He's won 2 playoff games in his 9 year career, that is nothing. He's had 10 total playoff games, like I said, trying to draw any conclusions from a sample size that small is absurd, you just sound like you want to come up with excuses why his good series is meaningful but his bad series isn't. Disingenuous AF

It's not an excuse it's a fact. He rushed his return to help his team make the playoffs and then he lost his best teammate. Anybody who watched that series against OKC last year could tell he wasn't healthy. You said he never he's accomplished nothing and I disagreed stating that he had superstar production against Phoenix.

The Pelicans being a disaster of franchise with Zion's availability is big reason why he only has 10 playoff games to his name.

So playing well for 6 games is accomplishing something now a days? No wonder so many of you support the direction of this team

It was actually 8 games when you count the two play-in games the Pels won to even make to the playoffs, but yes that is accomplishing something. Once again they went up against #1 overall seeded Suns team that just won 64 games and finished 3rd in DRTG. He proved that he could be a bonafide #1 option when playoffs started and games got more tight. We've always been a franchise starved for talent and got a guy for cheap and a shorter market value deal. He's a former all star, MIP winner and guy who can stretch the floor while score on good efficiency.

As a whole, I don't get why posters like you like to **** on the team your supposedly rooting for. Do you find amusement in all of that negativity?

[Harry Palmer]

I am going to keep an open mind because I can see the logic of this and it could work but this is definitely not a conventional path to rebuilding your team. The lack of flexibility with a young roster is unusual and involves a little risk. Still they have all their picks and outside of IQ, I can’t see any deal as being long enough to ever truly become horrible if the worst case scenario happens.
We have 13 players with our picks and little room under the tax so it is likely in my opinion that we sign Chomche to a full contract going into next year because he will be cheaper as our 2nd round pick. We then carry 14 into season and three two-ways.

Boucher really has no future here so we really should cut ties and buy him out so he can get another opportunity. Maybe we can work out a deal with the Lakers where they cut Koloko and we cut Chris. We can sign him to a three year deal, non guaranteed for years 2 and 3.

Imo it’s less about the money, though that’s an issue. It’s building the car, getting the right tires and seats and everything, but you still haven’t got the engine. So, the gamble is that this year’s pick will be the engine. Or else we need to spend years letting Masai realize that the car without the engine won’t get us there, years taking that car apart and getting bad enough to get access to another engine. People think ‘tanking’ for a few years in a row is too long, but you actually waste less time than this One Big Swing per 7-8 years approach, you just don’t completely suck as long for any given period.

Imo how Oklahoma and Houston have done it is the most efficient. You spend 3-5 years being terrible, then you get a long run with legit talent. If you draft terribly you’re just a bad team, but if you draft badly any rebuild will fail, and the committed rebuild actually allows for that better, it’s not get this one right or waste a decade, it’s ok, we need one more year. Masai’s way never leaves us that option. Suck for 3-5 years, spend your draft capital wisely, then enjoy for a decade. Yes, fans will get antsy and casual fans in particular like mediocrity better than terrible, but I’m not a casual fan and am tired of decades spent catering to them.

[Garrett]

Does this mean RJ Barrett is gone?

[NotMyKawhi]

IQ, dick, Scottie, BI, embiid. Shead, jakobe, boucher, mogbo. Chomche. Blazers pick. Battle

Poeltl, RJ, top 5, ochai, 27 1st, 29 1st. For Embiid

Gets us under the tax and championship contender.

[Brinbe]

Lol I totally called 120 from the jump. He got a fair deal

[GP2]

Seems fine.

[Deadpool Raptor]

I like the length!

That's what she said!
Sorry couldn't resist lol

Displacement is more important

[Tripod]

Does this mean RJ Barrett is gone?

No one knows for sure as it's all speculation.

If the pick isn't top 5, could be no one
Could be him
Could be IQ
Could be Yak...unlikely the way BI talked about him
Could be Ochai

Could just wait and see how the season plays out and decide then.

[Brinbe]

Think people to realise that bruce/kelly/boucher were 43 combined just this season and we just replaced that salary slot with an infinitely more productive piece. Ingram got like a 2 mil raise over the 38 he's making now which is nothing.

The player option isn't ideal but the cap should rise by then and we'll hopefully be competing for real in 3 years anyway so who cares if we're a tax team at that point.

[WuTang_CMB]

[Appostis]

Boy that OG contract ain't looking too bad now.

The 40 mil is just enough to strangle any salary flexibility and potentially put you in a tax avoidance squeeze play in trade talks.

The PO in his mid-prime limits his contract as a solid trade asset. Protecting his injury risk and sets him up for a potentially bad - for us - negotiating deal on term likely exiting his prime.

Plenty of short term risk and the tail could be a lot of commitment for an injury risk like him.

Not really setting things up to change my mind on keeping the pick

What?

Yes OG is being paid more for his defense but he is the 4th scoring option....Ingram will be our 1st....and paid less.

Also that OG contract is 42/45/48 in its last 3 years.
Both have a history of random health issues but not chronic injuries. Both have a PO at the end.

[GLF]

The people who are always so negative on here no matter what the front office does always confuse me. It’s like clockwork. Right when you see certain people’s names come up on here you know exactly what they are gonna say or how they are gonna feel. Just repeating themselves constantly. WE GET IT omg.

And muting them does nothing bc people never ignore them. They always respond to them so you end up seeing their posts regardless. I just don’t understand why one would be a “fan” of a team where they literally hate every decision the front office makes. Mainly bc you don’t have any control over what they do. You just have to sit and wait for decisions to be made. So if you hate the direction so much and have this crystal ball to know exactly where Raptors will end up, why not be a fan of a team who’s doing everything right. Especially since most of these posters think 90% of other front offices are better than ours. It just seems very unhinged at this point, but what do I know.

Nothing positive can ever be said on here without the same posters going, “but actually *insert negative post*”. It’s like they have to humble any poster who likes the direction of the team or likes our players bc they’re superior to everyone including the front office and know it all. It’s so tired. There is critique and then there is just straight up negativity. If 98% of your posts are always some bleak negative take it’s beyond critique in my opinion. Clearly you hate everything about this team. Free yourselves. But it’s a free country so it is what it is.

[Tripod]

IQ, dick, Scottie, BI, embiid. Shead, jakobe, boucher, mogbo. Chomche. Blazers pick. Battle

Poeltl, RJ, top 5, ochai, 27 1st, 29 1st. For Embiid

Gets us under the tax and championship contender.

Hell with that.

Embiid still has 4 more years after this one. No way

[NotMyKawhi]

IQ, dick, Scottie, BI, embiid. Shead, jakobe, boucher, mogbo. Chomche. Blazers pick. Battle

Poeltl, RJ, top 5, ochai, 27 1st, 29 1st. For Embiid

Gets us under the tax and championship contender.

Hell with that.

Embiid still has 4 more years after this one. No way

Still MVP level when healthy

[djsunyc]

The people who are always so negative on here no matter what the front office does always confuse me. It’s like clockwork. Right when you see certain people’s names come up on here you know exactly what they are gonna say or how they are gonna feel. Just repeating themselves constantly. WE GET IT omg.

And muting them does nothing bc people never ignore them. They always respond to them so you end up seeing their posts regardless. I just don’t understand why one would be a “fan” of a team where they literally hate every decision the front office makes. Mainly bc you don’t have any control over what they do. You just have to sit and wait for decisions to be made. So if you hate the direction so much and have this crystal ball to know exactly where Raptors will end up, why not be a fan of a team who’s doing everything right. Especially since most of these posters think 90% of other front offices are better than ours. It just seems very unhinged at this point, but what do I know.

Nothing positive can ever be said on here without the same posters going, “but actually *insert negative post*”. It’s like they have to humble any poster who likes the direction of the team or likes our players bc they’re superior to everyone including the front office and know it all. It’s so tired. There is critique and then there is just straight up negativity. If 98% of your posts are always some bleak negative take it’s beyond critique in my opinion. Clearly you hate everything about this team. Free yourselves. But it’s a free country so it is what it is.

it becomes less about posting and more about getting that dopamine hit when someone reacts to something you say. and it's clear that the more negative you are, the more reactions you get.

[mtcan]

IQ, dick, Scottie, BI, embiid. Shead, jakobe, boucher, mogbo. Chomche. Blazers pick. Battle

Poeltl, RJ, top 5, ochai, 27 1st, 29 1st. For Embiid

Gets us under the tax and championship contender.

Hell with that.

Embiid still has 4 more years after this one. No way

Still MVP level when healthy

Ya...that's the problem.

[Appostis]

IQ, dick, Scottie, BI, embiid. Shead, jakobe, boucher, mogbo. Chomche. Blazers pick. Battle

Poeltl, RJ, top 5, ochai, 27 1st, 29 1st. For Embiid

Gets us under the tax and championship contender.

Hell with that.

Embiid still has 4 more years after this one. No way

With the way Embiid's health has deteriorated that contract might be the worse in the league towards the end.

A near 70 million contract as a PO at age 34??

[Boogie!]

Is that ai?

[Scase]

It's not an excuse it's a fact. He rushed his return to help his team make the playoffs and then he lost his best teammate. Anybody who watched that series against OKC last year could tell he wasn't healthy. You said he never he's accomplished nothing and I disagreed stating that he had superstar production against Phoenix.

The Pelicans being a disaster of franchise with Zion's availability is big reason why he only has 10 playoff games to his name.

So playing well for 6 games is accomplishing something now a days? No wonder so many of you support the direction of this team

It was actually 8 games when you count the two play-in games the Pels won to even make to the playoffs, but yes that is accomplishing something. Once again they went up against #1 overall seeded Suns team that just won 64 games and finished 3rd in DRTG. He proved that he could be a bonafide #1 option when playoffs started and games got more tight. We've always been a franchise starved for talent and got a guy for cheap and a shorter market value deal. He's a former all star, MIP winner and guy who can stretch the floor while score on good efficiency.

As a whole, I don't get why posters like you like to **** on the team your supposedly rooting for. Do you find amusement in all of that negativity?

Ok cool, 8 games of playing well, definitely an accomplishment. You got me there I find amusement in the delusions and the insane hoops people jump through to justify mediocre moves. Like I'm not sitting here thinking BI is the worst player in the world, he's a good player, I think ultimately not a needle mover but whatever, that's my opinion. But suggesting that I'm being negative because I don't consider an 8 game sample size out of a 9 year career to be some proof positive that he's a "bonafide #1 option", is just beyond stupid.

You used the excuse that the second playoff series poor performance was because he was injured and didn't have Zion. Well, he's always injured, and didn't have Zion in the first series either. I'm not out here arguing with people who think the move was alright or even a bit good, I can respect that, but you holding up 8 games, which you conveniently moved up from 6 games, as some example of him being a true #1 option and acting like this is a coup is hilarious.

It was 8 games, get a grip.