Collin Murray-Boyles Thread

[Reeko]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

Unless he struggles immensely at the NBA level there's no way they're sending him to the G League.

[tsherkin]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

Unless he struggles immensely at the NBA level there's no way they're sending him to the G League.

Yeah, it seems more likely that we'll see what he can do defensively right away, and see if he can't hit some C+S 3s, and do hustle big work inside type of stuff. He certainly has the mind and body for it.

[MEDIC]

I could see him getting some extra reps in the GLeague here and there (especially if they want him to get a bunch of in game 3 point reps), but I don't think he will be sent down for extended time or travel with the 905 at all.

I'd be surprised if he missed actual Raptors games to be with the 905.....but who knows.

[PhilBlackson]

Personally I don’t see them sending him down to the G-League at all unless it’s (knock on wood) him returning from an injury/ramping back up. I think with his bball IQ it’s highly unlikely that he has any sustained struggles that will warrant sending him to the G-League and he’s the best backup option behind Scottie already since unlike Mogbo, he can offer some scoring ability.

[Tha Cynic]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

You went from, he could be a better starter that RJ if he hits the three from the corner, to his game should be refined in the G League, to he should be first forward off the bench - all on one page lol

[HangTime]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

I think he's an automatic rotation player. I would even start him ahead of RJ. I know people wouldn't like it with the traditional spacing issues, but I can see way past that.


I only see 2 ways he has G-Leauge stints.
1) If he's hurt and needs some rehab reps.
2) If it's the morning of a double-header, or the Raptors have an off-day, and these are just extra "practices" for him.

[YogurtProducer]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

You went from, he could be a better starter that RJ if he hits the three from the corner, to his game should be refined in the G League, to he should be first forward off the bench - all on one page lol

Don't forget, also as good as Sabonis who is a 3x all-star and 2x all-nba player

[ConSarnit]

I doubt he sees much G-league action at all. He’s probably our 3rd big at the moment. He’s better than Mogbo and Sandro might end up being a 15mpg guy.

[Thaddy]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

You went from, he could be a better starter that RJ if he hits the three from the corner, to his game should be refined in the G League, to he should be first forward off the bench - all on one page lol

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

[tsherkin]

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

I don't see us starting him yet either, but we also don't know that he can't hit the corner 3. He shot 30, 31% in college and his form looks improved. If RJ can hit the corner 3, and even Scottie can hit 36% from the corners, I think we can probably expect a semi-decent corner performance out of CMB. Nothing remarkable, but a foundation for moving forward, maybe.

[anotherhomer]

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

I don't see us starting him yet either, but we also don't know that he can't hit the corner 3. He shot 30, 31% in college and his form looks improved. If RJ can hit the corner 3, and even Scottie can hit 36% from the corners, I think we can probably expect a semi-decent corner performance out of CMB. Nothing remarkable, but a foundation for moving forward, maybe.

he's going to be our cason wallace

[tsherkin]

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

I don't see us starting him yet either, but we also don't know that he can't hit the corner 3. He shot 30, 31% in college and his form looks improved. If RJ can hit the corner 3, and even Scottie can hit 36% from the corners, I think we can probably expect a semi-decent corner performance out of CMB. Nothing remarkable, but a foundation for moving forward, maybe.

he's going to be our cason wallace

Hehe.

[PhilBlackson]

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

I don't see us starting him yet either, but we also don't know that he can't hit the corner 3. He shot 30, 31% in college and his form looks improved. If RJ can hit the corner 3, and even Scottie can hit 36% from the corners, I think we can probably expect a semi-decent corner performance out of CMB. Nothing remarkable, but a foundation for moving forward, maybe.

he's going to be our cason wallace

Could/should be better considering the added rebounding, passing ability and defensive versatility to potentially switch 1-5 (at least 1-4) ie/ “can’t teach size” lol

[Basketball_Jones]

It’s going to be an experimental season with him I think. He’ll be used anywhere from 3-5 depending on availability/matchups and we’ll see where he fits best. I’m not convinced he’s really a 5 like Draymond and college his ball handling and potential small forward skills are intriguing.

[YogurtProducer]

I think his full game would be refined in the GLeague. We have solid back ups in place and ramping him up ther is a good idea. CMB should be the first forward off the bench. He needs to find a single part of offense he can refine I think he has a good pathway to being similar to Sabonis but better at defense.

You went from, he could be a better starter that RJ if he hits the three from the corner, to his game should be refined in the G League, to he should be first forward off the bench - all on one page lol

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

Lol we are not gonna bench CMB and start RJ because of "politics".

RJ was not drafted by our team, nor has he been extended, nor is our president even the same as when we acquired him.

If we want to bring RJ off the bench... we will. And that will be that.

[tsherkin]

It’s going to be an experimental season with him I think. He’ll be used anywhere from 3-5 depending on availability/matchups and we’ll see where he fits best. I’m not convinced he’s really a 5 like Draymond and college his ball handling and potential small forward skills are intriguing.

Yeah, he has any ability to drive, some semi-decent handles and if he can hit a 3 (even just from the corners), he can play the 3 no problem. We won't need/want him to do much ball-handling past attacking close-outs anyhow. He's got some intriguing potential at this stage.

[HangTime]

I know people want to shoot more from the corners, but I'd rather have him shoot more from the top of arc, especially if Jakob or Scottie have 1 foot in the paint.

[tsherkin]

I know people want to shoot more from the corners, but I'd rather have him shoot more from the top of arc, especially if Jakob or Scottie have 1 foot in the paint.

I think it'd be nice to develop from there, but the point is to be more approachable in goals at first. It's easier to shoot well from the corners, harder to develop ATB shooting. So start with the corners, and ease him into ATB shooting, is the notion.

[Tha Cynic]

Having watched the way Darko develops players, I won’t be surprised to see CMB play the 3 some to expand his perimeter skills more. They’re going to have to do it in a way that doesn’t lose them games.

[Thaddy]

You went from, he could be a better starter that RJ if he hits the three from the corner, to his game should be refined in the G League, to he should be first forward off the bench - all on one page lol

He can't hit the corner 3. He needs to refine that in a situation where he'll get shots. We won't start him over RJ because of politics and trade value reasons. Is that easy enough to understand?

Lol we are not gonna bench CMB and start RJ because of "politics".

RJ was not drafted by our team, nor has he been extended, nor is our president even the same as when we acquired him.

If we want to bring RJ off the bench... we will. And that will be that.

RJ is a addition by subtraction player that no one wants. If we bench him we are essentially stuck with him or will need to attach picks to get off his contract.

We tried offering 9th and RJ for Holiday and were told to screw off. That's pretty eye opening. We aren't competitive and unless CMB or another bench player makes us much better in combination with our other starters RJ will start and it's 100% about trade value.

The only way we get better now is from trades. Internally developing a bunch of 2nd rounders isn't getting us far.