Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[Forza Barca]

I keep envisioning a Bosh to San Antonio scenerio.

The good thing is we can package Turk in with Bosh, as SA's window is closing with Duncan and a Parker-Hedo-Bosh-Duncan core is good for at least a couple more years, at least.

And we can involve a third team like Memphis or Golden State in there as well.

Raps
- OJ Mayo
- Thabeet

Warriors
- Blair
- Jefferson
- Antonio McDyess

Memphis
- Ellis

SA
- Bosh
- Hedo

Don't know if it works Salary wise, but a good proposition I think. Hedo and Bosh will definitely 100% accept a trade to San Antonio.

Wait a minute, so GSW wouldn't trade Ellis for Mayo & Thabeet at the deadline but would trade him for Dejuan Blair's creaky knees, Richard Jefferson's bad contract and Antonio McDyess' icy corpse?

It's a thought, just out there. But they do get some inside help and Blair is young and McDyess is a veteran. Jefferson has been struggling with SA, but we all know he's a good player that is just not in the right system. Plus, Golden State is getting new ownership next year, so they might want to clean house, and build around Curry. They might just want to dump Ellis and cut their losses. Just something to consider.

[Condi Rice]

dump calderon with bosh for Bynum and filler plz

[dagger]

I do not see San Antonio in this at all.

Dallas in a huge cap dump, yes
Houston in a picks and prospects type deal plus expirings, yes
Los Angeles in a straight up big for big trade, yes

I have a hard time seeing an S&T with any team in the East, so if his heart is set on an eastern team, Bosh may have to go for five years. And I don't think he will.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I was thinking this

To TOR: Deng + Thabeet
To CHI: Bosh
To MEM: James Johnson + Rights to bulls 2010 pick

[Ripp]

dump calderon with bosh for Bynum and filler plz

You've gotta get Bosh to agree to go to LA (and no chance he wants to take Calderon with him.) I don't see why he would agree to play third fiddle to Kobe (a guy who is chucking hardcore this year, and much less efficient on offense than Bosh is) and Pau (a guy he is probably better than. even if you think Pau is better than Bosh, you'd have to convince Bosh of this to make him play 3rd fiddle.)

Plus the time window is centered around Kobe....does he really have 3 more years remaining as an elite SG? Arguably not, given how much he has slowed down this year alone. You can probably contend for the next 3 years, but what about the 3 after? Pau will be old and slow. It depends on how Kobe looks in this playoffs. But if he looks bad there (as I suspect he might, if faced against Cleveland), I dunno that you'll be able to get Bosh to go there.

[dagger]

I was thinking this

To TOR: Deng + Thabeet
To CHI: Bosh
To MEM: James Johnson + Rights to bulls 2010 pick

Why would we want Deng? Serious, if the guy isn't injured, he's an inconsistent jump shooter who plays the same position as Turkuglu. How many monstrous contracts do you want to pile on at small forward?

[dagger]

dump calderon with bosh for Bynum and filler plz

You've gotta get Bosh to agree to go to LA (and no chance he wants to take Calderon with him.) I don't see why he would agree to play third fiddle to Kobe (a guy who is chucking hardcore this year, and much less efficient on offense than Bosh is) and Pau (a guy he is probably better than. even if you think Pau is better than Bosh, you'd have to convince Bosh of this to make him play 3rd fiddle.).

It's funny that when the Bosh for Bynum rumor for floated up, ESPN had a source close to Bosh saying he'd love to go to LA. And while it would be his call whether to go to LA, he has no say in whether other players are included in a sign and trade. None. Zero. Nada.

[D-Wins-RingsIMO]

dump calderon with bosh for Bynum and filler plz

You've gotta get Bosh to agree to go to LA (and no chance he wants to take Calderon with him.) I don't see why he would agree to play third fiddle to Kobe (a guy who is chucking hardcore this year, and much less efficient on offense than Bosh is) and Pau (a guy he is probably better than. even if you think Pau is better than Bosh, you'd have to convince Bosh of this to make him play 3rd fiddle.)

Plus the time window is centered around Kobe....does he really have 3 more years remaining as an elite SG? Arguably not, given how much he has slowed down this year alone. You can probably contend for the next 3 years, but what about the 3 after? Pau will be old and slow. It depends on how Kobe looks in this playoffs. But if he looks bad there (as I suspect he might, if faced against Cleveland), I dunno that you'll be able to get Bosh to go there.

lmfao.

You're telling me Chris **** Bosh is going to turn down a 6 year max contract with the LA Lakers?

[Ripp]

I was thinking this

To TOR: Deng + Thabeet
To CHI: Bosh
To MEM: James Johnson + Rights to bulls 2010 pick

Why would we want Deng? Serious, if the guy isn't injured, he's an inconsistent jump shooter who plays the same position as Turkuglu. How many monstrous contracts do you want to pile on at small forward?

He wants strong rebounders at the 3 and 5, to pair with Bargs. He is definitely an inconsistent jumpshooter, but his efficiency should go up on the Raps (better spacing.) And he is a phenomenal defender.

[D-Wins-RingsIMO]

the more interesting question is if a deal is there with LA who would you prefer back, Bynum or Gasol?

I think that will tell a lot about where BC & MLSE is at.

Bynum is certainly a better gamble "over the long run" if you feel you can make optimal choices w/o fear of downsides .... but he has many downsides injury wise and POW has been a pretty damm consistent player his whole career, and relatively healthy.

[dagger]

I was thinking this

To TOR: Deng + Thabeet
To CHI: Bosh
To MEM: James Johnson + Rights to bulls 2010 pick

Why would we want Deng? Serious, if the guy isn't injured, he's an inconsistent jump shooter who plays the same position as Turkuglu. How many monstrous contracts do you want to pile on at small forward?

He wants strong rebounders at the 3 and 5, to pair with Bargs. He is definitely an inconsistent jumpshooter, but his efficiency should go up on the Raps (better spacing.) And he is a phenomenal defender.

He's none of that. Do you ever watch Deng play?

[Ripp]

dump calderon with bosh for Bynum and filler plz

You've gotta get Bosh to agree to go to LA (and no chance he wants to take Calderon with him.) I don't see why he would agree to play third fiddle to Kobe (a guy who is chucking hardcore this year, and much less efficient on offense than Bosh is) and Pau (a guy he is probably better than. even if you think Pau is better than Bosh, you'd have to convince Bosh of this to make him play 3rd fiddle.)

Plus the time window is centered around Kobe....does he really have 3 more years remaining as an elite SG? Arguably not, given how much he has slowed down this year alone. You can probably contend for the next 3 years, but what about the 3 after? Pau will be old and slow. It depends on how Kobe looks in this playoffs. But if he looks bad there (as I suspect he might, if faced against Cleveland), I dunno that you'll be able to get Bosh to go there.

lmfao.

You're telling me Chris **** Bosh is going to turn down a 6 year max contract with the LA Lakers?

Yes. Kobe isn't what he once was. His efficient numbers have been dropping yearly. Why the hell should CB be third fiddle to Kobe (a guy he is more efficient than and who chucks relentlessly and coasts on defense too much), and Pau (a guy he is probably better than)?

If Kobe looks like hot garbage in the playoffs, what then? You think Bosh is going to be blindsided by big names, rather than coldly thinking about which team gives him the best chance to win over the entire next 6 years?

[garbage time]

He's none of that. Do you ever watch Deng play?

someone called Deng a Lebron stopper earlier today.

[D-Wins-RingsIMO]

Deng is a Bargnani level rebounder over his career.

While his excuse can be that he's not 7 **** feet, in the grand scheme of things he's an average rebounder for a SF

[D-Wins-RingsIMO]

lmfao.

You're telling me Chris **** Bosh is going to turn down a 6 year max contract with the LA Lakers?

Yes. Kobe isn't what he once was. His efficient numbers have been dropping yearly. Why the hell should CB be third fiddle to Kobe (a guy he is more efficient than and who chucks relentlessly and coasts on defense too much), and Pau (a guy he is probably better than)?

If Kobe looks like hot garbage in the playoffs, what then? You think Bosh is going to be blindsided by big names, rather than coldly thinking about which team gives him the best chance to win over the entire next 6 years?

You're nuts.

[Ripp]

He wants strong rebounders at the 3 and 5, to pair with Bargs. He is definitely an inconsistent jumpshooter, but his efficiency should go up on the Raps (better spacing.) And he is a phenomenal defender.

He's none of that. Do you ever watch Deng play?

Luol Deng is the following:
a) One of the best rebounding SFs in the league, grabbing 7.4 rebounds per game on a Bulls team that is one of the top in the league in the category, with strong rebounders like Noah.
b) One of the best defenders at the SF position in the league.
c) An inefficient offensive player due to his tendency to shoot long 2s.

[Ripp]

You're nuts.

Your argument has thoroughly convinced me. Fact is, there are better options out there, given his goals and aspirations.

[johnny-oh]

You're nuts.

Your argument has thoroughly convinced me. Fact is, there are better options out there, given his goals and aspirations.

Aren't his goals and aspirations to be a winner?

LAL - 1st in West...reigning NBA champs

[sonny]

Deng is a Bargnani level rebounder over his career.

While his excuse can be that he's not 7 **** feet, in the grand scheme of things he's an average rebounder for a SF

Deng gets 9.3 reb/48, which is enough for 6th for small forwards, above LeBron, Melo, a little bit under Marion.

[Ripp]

Deng is a Bargnani level rebounder over his career.

While his excuse can be that he's not 7 **** feet, in the grand scheme of things he's an average rebounder for a SF

Deng gets 9.3 reb/48, which is enough for 6th for small forwards, above LeBron, Melo, a little bit under Marion.

That is sad...Bargs wouldn't even be an elite rebounding SF, eh? Or what would his rank be among SFs?

edit: According to Hollinger, Deng is 13th in the league among 61 SFs in Rebounding Rate. If Bargs were considered a SF, he would be right behind Deng, and thus 14th:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinge ... eboundRate