Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired

WalterCronkite · Post #341 » by **WalterCronkite** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:41 am

He should be but the owners will not fork out money for him to stay home, while paying a new one.

Waylon Mercy · Post #342 » by **Waylon Mercy** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:43 am

The sad part is you guys are to lazy to get #FireColangelo trending

Prodigy416 · Post #343 » by **Prodigy416** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:44 am

Others posters mentioned this earlier but here goes again. We all want BC fired and deservedly so. I supported him while many sh*t on him through out the years but damn was I wrong.

Since the Toronto sports media will point out every fault except BC's and is too cowardly to challenge him, if we want him out it's up to the fans. We have Twitter, so let's get on it.

Send tweets to @Raptors and @RaptorsPR and hashtag #FireColangelo or #FireBC or whatever. Just voice your displeasure. Send tweets to Eric Smith, Paul Jones, Wolstat, Sid Seixero, Tim McCallef, hell even Swirsky if you want to. Enough of that on Twitter and we'll generate a buzz and the lamedick media will join the bandwagon trying to take the credit.

BD12 · Post #344 » by **BD12** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:45 am

Waylon Mercy wrote:The sad part is you guys are to lazy to get #FireColangelo trending

#FireBC. I also tweeted that to Holly and Eric Koreen

DHK · Post #345 » by **DHK** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:45 am

Again, he shouldnt be fired.
He should just be demoted to Lead Scout, because the man makes decent draft picks (Davis, JV, Derozen)
As a President of MLSE, he's been a failure. He uses "financial flexibility" by overpaying players, signing players with poor scouting knowing their limitations and holding onto his prized asset "Bargnani" for dear life.
Edit: Not hating on Bargnani, however, knowing the direction of the team, I think he's starting to become a player not necessary within our system

TJ Calderon · Post #346 » by **TJ Calderon** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:46 am

DHK wrote:Again, he shouldnt be fired.
He should just be demoted to Lead Scout, because the man makes decent draft picks (Davis, JV, Derozen)
As a President of MLSE, he's been a failure. He uses "financial flexibility" by overpaying players, signing players with poor scouting knowing their limitations and holding onto his prized asset "Bargnani" for dear life.

He should be demoted to ball boy or those floor sweepers

Primetime23 · Post #347 » by **Primetime23** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:49 am

Who can possibly vote no here? why isnt there a firebc chant going like the ones that ran ron wilson out of town?

Post #348 » by **darth_federer** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:50 am

DHK wrote:Again, he shouldnt be fired.
He should just be demoted to Lead Scout, because the man makes decent draft picks (Davis, JV, Derozen)
As a President of MLSE, he's been a failure. He uses "financial flexibility" by overpaying players, signing players with poor scouting knowing their limitations and holding onto his prized asset "Bargnani" for dear life.

Davis and Ross have been disappointing. Derozan till this year was a below average player. Bargnani has been disappointing you have to say. We have a terrible record with second round picks.

He has been overrate since day 1. We need him out entirely if we're ever going to move on.

BD12 · Post #349 » by **BD12** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:55 am

Honestly don't know why ppl are spending dough to watch this garbage team year in and year out. I honestly feel bad for the season ticket holders.

West Rouge · Post #350 » by **West Rouge** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:55 am

Posters talk like BC has made great draft picks? I don't get it. He's picked some decent players, but its not like the guys he didn't pick ended up much worse...

BC gets way to much credit when hes a horrible GM. Period.

DHK · Post #351 » by **DHK** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:55 am

darth_federer wrote:
DHK wrote:Again, he shouldnt be fired.
He should just be demoted to Lead Scout, because the man makes decent draft picks (Davis, JV, Derozen)
As a President of MLSE, he's been a failure. He uses "financial flexibility" by overpaying players, signing players with poor scouting knowing their limitations and holding onto his prized asset "Bargnani" for dear life.

Davis and Ross have been disappointing. Derozan till this year was a below average player. Bargnani has been disappointing you have to say. We have a terrible record with second round picks.

He has been overrate since day 1. We need him out entirely if we're ever going to move on.

I would say, its too early to judge Ross, although there are players making more immediate impact than he had (Chowder, Drummond). DeRozen has always been touted as a project who need some time to refine his game, so it's not surprising that he's starting to break out on his own right now. Ed Davis was a solid pick in hindsight.
Larry Sanders isnt much better, Patrick Patterson has been underwhelming thus far, and the only pick who ultimately is proven to be better than Davis is Blesdoe and (maybe) Avery Bradley

I absolutely agree about the 2nd round picks though...its terrible.
And Bargnani well...he hasnt been a disappointment..but he hasnt been spectacular either, he's a solid player overall despite his inconsistencies

sanity · Post #352 » by **sanity** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:58 am

West Rouge wrote:Posters talk like BC has made great draft picks? I don't get it. He's picked some decent players, but its not like the guys he didn't pick ended up much worse...

BC gets way to much credit when hes a horrible GM. Period.

Other than the Valanciunas pick I think he's been average at best at drafting.

Post #353 » by **Geddy** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:58 am

Isaiah Thomas might be bat **** crazy but he's probably a better scout than BC.

BD12 · Post #354 » by **BD12** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:01 am

WAS 0-5
CHA 1-4
DET 0-6
CLE 2-4

BC is lucky there are so many injuries and rebuilding teams in the Eastern Conference.

Indeed · Post #355 » by **Indeed** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:02 am

DHK wrote:
darth_federer wrote:
DHK wrote:Again, he shouldnt be fired.
He should just be demoted to Lead Scout, because the man makes decent draft picks (Davis, JV, Derozen)
As a President of MLSE, he's been a failure. He uses "financial flexibility" by overpaying players, signing players with poor scouting knowing their limitations and holding onto his prized asset "Bargnani" for dear life.

Davis and Ross have been disappointing. Derozan till this year was a below average player. Bargnani has been disappointing you have to say. We have a terrible record with second round picks.

He has been overrate since day 1. We need him out entirely if we're ever going to move on.

I would say, its too early to judge Ross, although there are players making more immediate impact than he had (Chowder, Drummond). DeRozen has always been touted as a project who need some time to refine his game, so it's not surprising that he's starting to break out on his own right now. Ed Davis was a solid pick in hindsight.
Larry Sanders isnt much better, Patrick Patterson has been underwhelming thus far, and the only pick who ultimately is proven to be better than Davis is Blesdoe and (maybe) Avery Bradley

I absolutely agree about the 2nd round picks though...its terrible.
And Bargnani well...he hasnt been a disappointment..but he hasnt been spectacular either, he's a solid player overall despite his inconsistencies

Patterson is clearly a better player, Davis has been way behind with his expectation.

Bargnani is disappointed if he is the lone player. He is not LeBron nor Howard as a 1st overall pick, but as a top 3 lottery pick, he is alright.

DeRozan just met his expectation and his up coming 8m salary.

The most disappointing thing is, BC rather holding on Calderon's little value than keeping Bayless who can actually create for himself. Also giving out impact player in James Johnson is another big lost to the lineup.

I said it at the beginning of the season, we are pretty much the same team, with the only exception of Jonas.

Prodigy416 · Post #356 » by **Prodigy416** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:02 am

Yeah, remind me how his drafting in Toronto has been great?

The guy doesn't even value draft picks FFS.

Bargnani (over Gay and Aldridge)
Demar (over Holliday and Lawson)
Ed Davis
JV
Ross

Besides JV who else screams "solid pick" to you? Demar? The rest of the time we hear from BC how we're looking to acquire another first rounder. And then we trade Barbosa, after derailing the tank HARD last year, for "cap flexibility" which we made 0 use of, just like the Bosh TPE. I'm not even gonna get into the FA signings because others here have and we're talking about his draft record.

frizzer1 · Post #357 » by **frizzer1** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:08 am

Well,the whole O'neil fiasco did it for me.
First he includes a first round pick in the deal to get JO...then he trades a first round pick in the deal to dump JO.
Classic.

DHK · Post #358 » by **DHK** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:08 am

Prodigy416 wrote:Yeah, remind me how his drafting in Toronto has been great?

The guy doesn't even value draft picks FFS.

Bargnani (over Gay and Aldridge)
Demar (over Holliday and Lawson)
Ed Davis
JV
Ross

Besides JV who else screams "solid pick" to you? Demar? The rest of the time we hear from BC how we're looking to acquire another first rounder. And then we trade Barbosa, after derailing the tank HARD last year, for "cap flexibility" which we made 0 use of, just like the Bosh TPE. I'm not even gonna get into the FA signings because others here have and we're talking about his draft record.

Gay was picked 8th...Not many people were pegging him to be the 1st pick around the draft.
Aldridge was strongly considered but not picked because we already had a polished LMA type player on our team (Bosh)
Think of the picks inbetween..TT? Morrison?? Roy :/...? Randy Foye??
Shelden Williams..
Gay was rather a rurprise.

Demar was a solid pick. I stand by that.
Davis wasnt a gem, but hes been alright, he's been hindered development though as he's been getting inconsistent minutes throughout every since his rookie season. I'd give Davis a year or 2 to make a true evaluation.

West Rouge · Post #359 » by **West Rouge** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:08 am

Prodigy416 wrote:Yeah, remind me how his drafting in Toronto has been great?

The guy doesn't even value draft picks FFS.

Bargnani (over Gay and Aldridge)
Demar (over Holliday and Lawson)
Ed Davis
JV
Ross

Besides JV who else screams "solid pick" to you? Demar? The rest of the time we hear from BC how we're looking to acquire another first rounder. And then we trade Barbosa, after derailing the tank HARD last year, for "cap flexibility" which we made 0 use of, just like the Bosh TPE. I'm not even gonna get into the FA signings because others here have and we're talking about his draft record.

And this is what his apologists use as his biggest defense. This GM is a fraud

J Dilla · Post #360 » by **J Dilla** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:13 am

frizzer1 wrote:Well,the whole O'neil fiasco did it for me.
First he includes a first round pick in the deal to get JO...then he trades a first round pick in the deal to dump JO.
Classic.

Traded a first round pick for James Johnson who was a bench warmer in Chicago. Then traded him away for a 2nd rounder after being a starter.

Fire BC?