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2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#341 » by Ackshun » Wed May 26, 2021 1:21 pm

Psubs wrote:Bring back Bembry, Birch, Boucher, Batson, Blynn, Barris and Battanabe.


À few days ago, my co-worker asked me if we are bringing Burnaby back.

It's getting hella confusing
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Post#342 » by Psubs » Wed May 26, 2021 2:04 pm

Ackshun wrote:
Psubs wrote:Bring back Bembry, Birch, Boucher, Batson, Blynn, Barris and Battanabe.


À few days ago, my co-worker asked me if we are bringing Burnaby back.

It's getting hella confusing


Bargnani come back!!!

I hope we win the lottery and draft Bade Bunningham. Broronto Braptors! Brap brap brap!
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Post#343 » by tecumseh18 » Wed May 26, 2021 2:19 pm

Psubs wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
Psubs wrote:Bring back Bembry, Birch, Boucher, Batson, Blynn, Barris and Battanabe.


À few days ago, my co-worker asked me if we are bringing Burnaby back.

It's getting hella confusing


Bargnani come back!!!

I hope we win the lottery and draft Bade Bunningham. Broronto Braptors! Brap brap brap!


With two 2nd round picks, roster spots will be at a premium next season. That aside, I wouldn't mind bringing Banley Bohnson back for the absolute minimum. Raps are thin at SF, and his defence on Luka in that Mavs game was pretty elite.
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Post#344 » by sidsid » Wed May 26, 2021 2:24 pm

There isn't team out there where Kyle would have a bigger impact than the Clippers. With PG and Kawhi just not being well suited to do all the creating for the team. Going back to mainly focusing on scoring and defending for them would be huge.

As a sign and trade partner they'll have their 2027 and 2028 picks to play with. That's an unprotected and a swap. They also have a bunch of seconds. The only contracts that fit are Bev and one of Serge (if he picks up his option) or Rondo. I don't think they'd put Zubac in a trade (I'm fine with the picks as compensation).

Lowry would have to be ok with a low 20s offer, but that's close to his 25mil demand. The Clips are the exact type of desperate team, if they get bounced out early, that would give you what you want to make a splash now.
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Post#345 » by mtcan » Wed May 26, 2021 2:26 pm

sidsid wrote:There isn't team out there where Kyle would have a bigger impact than the Clippers. With PG and Kawhi just not being well suited to do all the creating for the team. Going back to mainly focusing on scoring and defending for them would be huge.

As a sign and trade partner they'll have their 2027 and 2028 picks to play with. That's an unprotected and a swap. They also have a bunch of seconds. The only contracts that fit are Bev and one of Serge (if he picks up his option) or Rondo. I don't think they'd put Zubac in a trade (I'm fine with the picks as compensation).

Lowry would have to be ok with a low 20s offer, but that's close to his 25mil demand. The Clips are the exact type of desperate team, if they get bounced out early, that would give you what you want to make a splash now.

Too bad the Clippers have nothing of value to trade in a sign and trade. They are capped out and have no draft assets to trade. Too bad...they invested in Luke Kennard and Marcus Morris for multiple years.
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Post#346 » by sidsid » Wed May 26, 2021 2:34 pm

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sidsid wrote:There isn't team out there where Kyle would have a bigger impact than the Clippers. With PG and Kawhi just not being well suited to do all the creating for the team. Going back to mainly focusing on scoring and defending for them would be huge.

As a sign and trade partner they'll have their 2027 and 2028 picks to play with. That's an unprotected and a swap. They also have a bunch of seconds. The only contracts that fit are Bev and one of Serge (if he picks up his option) or Rondo. I don't think they'd put Zubac in a trade (I'm fine with the picks as compensation).

Lowry would have to be ok with a low 20s offer, but that's close to his 25mil demand. The Clips are the exact type of desperate team, if they get bounced out early, that would give you what you want to make a splash now.

Too bad the Clippers have nothing of value to trade in a sign and trade. They are capped out and have no draft assets to trade. Too bad...they invested in Luke Kennard and Marcus Morris for multiple years.


The 2027 and 2028 picks are more potential value than anything that was rumoured in the Miami and Philly deals. Yes, it's a gamble on the Clips being in a down cycle in those years, but it's a legit shot at good lottery picks for a 35 year old PG. Could be in a GSW situation by then where we're contending and have a couple lotto picks falling into our hands.
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Post#347 » by tecumseh18 » Wed May 26, 2021 2:35 pm

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sidsid wrote:There isn't team out there where Kyle would have a bigger impact than the Clippers. With PG and Kawhi just not being well suited to do all the creating for the team. Going back to mainly focusing on scoring and defending for them would be huge.

As a sign and trade partner they'll have their 2027 and 2028 picks to play with. That's an unprotected and a swap. They also have a bunch of seconds. The only contracts that fit are Bev and one of Serge (if he picks up his option) or Rondo. I don't think they'd put Zubac in a trade (I'm fine with the picks as compensation).

Lowry would have to be ok with a low 20s offer, but that's close to his 25mil demand. The Clips are the exact type of desperate team, if they get bounced out early, that would give you what you want to make a splash now.

Too bad the Clippers have nothing of value to trade in a sign and trade. They are capped out and have no draft assets to trade. Too bad...they invested in Luke Kennard and Marcus Morris for multiple years.


I actually like Terance Mann. Although, after the draft, how many more 6' 5" shooting guards are we gonna need?
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Post#348 » by Psubs » Wed May 26, 2021 2:46 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Ackshun wrote:
À few days ago, my co-worker asked me if we are bringing Burnaby back.

It's getting hella confusing


Bargnani come back!!!

I hope we win the lottery and draft Bade Bunningham. Broronto Braptors! Brap brap brap!


With two 2nd round picks, roster spots will be at a premium next season. That aside, I wouldn't mind bringing Banley Bohnson back for the absolute minimum. Raps are thin at SF, and his defence on Luka in that Mavs game was pretty elite.


Stanley on the min would be good. I could see him be very good in practice. I think he's more useful than Bembry.

Raptors would have the BAE freed up. Wait until next year to use it or is it too little for Birch?
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Post#349 » by Psubs » Wed May 26, 2021 3:05 pm

Would Lowry and Trent want to go to the Clippers? For Kawhi and Beverley?
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Post#350 » by Van_Trump » Wed May 26, 2021 4:11 pm

Question: What superstar would we have to get to give up Van Vleet?

https://raptorsrapture.com/2021/05/25/toronto-raptors-fred-vanvleet-trade-chip-star-chasing/
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Post#351 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 26, 2021 7:03 pm

I don't think we can keep Lowry and get Kawhi but Lowry is good fit on Clippers, so I guess they could get S&Ted for each other?
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Post#352 » by raptoratode » Wed May 26, 2021 7:30 pm

sidsid wrote:There isn't team out there where Kyle would have a bigger impact than the Clippers. With PG and Kawhi just not being well suited to do all the creating for the team. Going back to mainly focusing on scoring and defending for them would be huge.

As a sign and trade partner they'll have their 2027 and 2028 picks to play with. That's an unprotected and a swap. They also have a bunch of seconds. The only contracts that fit are Bev and one of Serge (if he picks up his option) or Rondo. I don't think they'd put Zubac in a trade (I'm fine with the picks as compensation).

Lowry would have to be ok with a low 20s offer, but that's close to his 25mil demand. The Clips are the exact type of desperate team, if they get bounced out early, that would give you what you want to make a splash now.

Wonder how the Clips fans feel about PG now? I'd be on board if Masai somehow scoops in and catches them in a panic and trades Kyle and other assets for PG. Kyle can get his 25M easy in that deal no? Agree with your points, plus Kyle's pick and pop with Ibaka would work wonders for that team

We'll end up with FVV-PG-OG-Pascal. Sign me up man.
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Post#353 » by sidsid » Wed May 26, 2021 11:06 pm

Van_Trump wrote:Question: What superstar would we have to get to give up Van Vleet?

https://raptorsrapture.com/2021/05/25/toronto-raptors-fred-vanvleet-trade-chip-star-chasing/


If a superstar wants out the demand from the other team will be either Siakam or OG. There's no avoiding that and that has to be accepted as the likely reality. But your run-of-the-mill all-stars like Beal are the ones you play hardball with and fight to include Fred instead.

The problem is that we're not in a position to trade Fred + assets for an all-star until we get that superstar. Through FA, draft or another trade.

Fred is more likely to be traded for roster fit if traded at all before that happens.
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Post#354 » by Spida888 » Wed May 26, 2021 11:46 pm

It would take more than just Fred to get us a superstar. He is a good player on a reasonable contract though, so I could see some teams valuing that.

Would either team consider a Fred-Lonzo S&T deal? I'm not a huge Lonzo believer but his shooting has noticeably improved and he's a big ballhandler. Our 1-4 positions will have decent size and Lonzo is a pretty good defender.
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Post#355 » by Mak » Thu May 27, 2021 12:00 am

Lol Randle is so confident in his skills and shooting. I hope they max him out, its a Knicks thing to do.
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Post#356 » by baller16 » Thu May 27, 2021 3:56 pm

If Kawhi leaves, the Warriors will go after PG over Beal & Siakam imo.

Golden State Warriors Receive: F Paul George

Los Angeles Clippers Receive: F/G Andrew Wiggins, C James Wiseman, 2021 1st Round Pick (via MIN), 2021 1st Round Pick (via GSW), 2023 1st Round Pick (via GSW), 2025 1st Round Pick Swap (via GSW)


I hope the Warriors put out an offer like this for Siakam
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Post#357 » by tecumseh18 » Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pm

baller16 wrote:If Kawhi leaves, the Warriors will go after PG over Beal & Siakam imo.

Golden State Warriors Receive: F Paul George

Los Angeles Clippers Receive: F/G Andrew Wiggins, C James Wiseman, 2021 1st Round Pick (via MIN), 2021 1st Round Pick (via GSW), 2023 1st Round Pick (via GSW), 2025 1st Round Pick Swap (via GSW)


I hope the Warriors put out an offer like this for Siakam


This is WAY too much, especially for a non-superstar like PG. All those draft picks for Jrue or PG made sense when they were expected to be in the 20s. But If the Minny pick conveys this year, the two 2021 lottery picks plus Wiggins and Wiseman should be adequate compensation for PG. Or Pascal.

Why would GSW pay more for a guy who is mocked for his playoff failures rather than a guy who actually helped beat them for a championship?
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Post#358 » by baller16 » Thu May 27, 2021 7:45 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
baller16 wrote:If Kawhi leaves, the Warriors will go after PG over Beal & Siakam imo.

Golden State Warriors Receive: F Paul George

Los Angeles Clippers Receive: F/G Andrew Wiggins, C James Wiseman, 2021 1st Round Pick (via MIN), 2021 1st Round Pick (via GSW), 2023 1st Round Pick (via GSW), 2025 1st Round Pick Swap (via GSW)


I hope the Warriors put out an offer like this for Siakam


This is WAY too much, especially for a non-superstar like PG. All those draft picks for Jrue or PG made sense when they were expected to be in the 20s. But If the Minny pick conveys this year, the two 2021 lottery picks plus Wiggins and Wiseman should be adequate compensation for PG. Or Pascal.

Why would GSW pay more for a guy who is mocked for his playoff failures rather than a guy who actually helped beat them for a championship?


So far PG has actually been decent this year but the series ain't over yet. PG is the better fit because of his shot making ability and 3pt shooting as opposed to Siakam. Siakam would also force Green to move at the 5 which we don't know if the Warriors want to do all season long.

But if they want Siakam and we walk away with their 1st and the Minny 1st, then we win this trade easily
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Post#359 » by tecumseh18 » Fri May 28, 2021 6:08 pm

Ah, Raptors twitter. It's such a different vibe. Lot more females, for one thing.

Anyway, here's the latest trade suggestion:

Read on Twitter


Then the trade grew to include our lottery pick and a bunch of future ones.

I hate Dame (and Westbrook, and Trae, and all small, shot-happy, ball dominant PGs), so it's impossible for me to be objective here. Thoughts?

There's no question, Portland isn't going anywhere without a guy like OG. But IMO Raps would be crazy to trade OG for anyone except a signed-up better version of OG. Tatum? Sure. Kawhi? Alright. Lebron? Too old. Brown or PG? Maybe.
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Post#360 » by gobullschi » Fri May 28, 2021 7:24 pm

Bulls fan here... I think Boucher would be a good fit next to Vucevic. Thoughts?

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