Marc Stein: Toronto has expressed interest in Ben Simmons

[Kordic27]

I like the idea of being involved with a 3 way trade that gets us another lottery pick and have Simmons go somewhere else.
Whoever came up with:
Siakam to Philly
Simmons to Cleveland
#3 and filler (probably KLove) to Toronto

...this is the deal!!

That was my suggestion. Someone get that idea to our FO ASAP

Would people prefer #3 and Love over Wiggins, Wiseman, #7 and #14?

I wouldn't.

Would def prefer #3 and love.

[mdenny]

That was my suggestion. Someone get that idea to our FO ASAP

Would people prefer #3 and Love over Wiggins, Wiseman, #7 and #14?

I wouldn't.

Would def prefer #3 and love.

I guess the thinking would be:

Suggs
FVV
OG
Love
Mobley

[geminiz]

No do not want unless it's for Bayne lol

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[agentzero2010]

Two most likely trade scenarios in my opinion:

1) Siakam, Ben Simmons one for one.

This is the most simple trade, Siakam gives them a third star and both salaries match. The biggest problem would be if the Sixers are comfortable with paying their entire cap on 3 front court players.

2) Lowry (S&T) + 4th Overall Pick

This trade gives the Sixers the best of both worlds, they can win now and build for the future at the same time. Sixers could potentially have a lineup of Lowry/Suggs/Green/Harris/Embiid. Meanwhile, raptors can create a defensive monster with Simmons/OG/Siakam in the front court.

I personally prefer the 2nd scenario in which the Raptors can assemble a closing lineup of Simmons/VanVleet/Trent/OG/Siakam. A perfect mix of defence, shooting, passing and scoring. The only issue would be interior rebounding and shot blocking which could be resolved by adding a Nerlens Noel, Richaun Holmes, Harrell or dare I dream, Serge Ibaka?

Simmons/VanVleet/OG/Siakam/Ibaka
Flynn/Trent/Watson/Watanabe/Boucher

Who's with me?

[mademan]

Two most likely trade scenarios in my opinion:

1) Siakam, Ben Simmons one for one.

This is the most simple trade, Siakam gives them a third star and both salaries match. The biggest problem would be if the Sixers are comfortable with paying their entire cap on 3 front court players.

2) Lowry (S&T) + 4th Overall Pick

This trade gives the Sixers the best of both worlds, they can win now and build for the future at the same time. Sixers could potentially have a lineup of Lowry/Suggs/Green/Harris/Embiid. Meanwhile, raptors can create a defensive monster with Simmons/OG/Siakam in the front court.

I personally prefer the 2nd scenario in which the Raptors can assemble a closing lineup of Simmons/VanVleet/Trent/OG/Siakam. A perfect mix of defence, shooting, passing and scoring. The only issue would be interior rebounding and shot blocking which could be resolved by adding a Nerlens Noel, Richaun Holmes, Harrell or dare I dream, Serge Ibaka?

Simmons/VanVleet/OG/Siakam/Ibaka
Flynn/Trent/Watson/Watanabe/Boucher

Who's with me?

not i bruh. Raps already got problems with half court scoring. Why would we bring in Simmons who has his own problems with half court scoring?

[CANsportsguru]

Simmons is never going to develop a jump shot. He's just uncomfortable shooting the ball. It won't get better but his defense and play making abilities are elite he just needs to be on the right team where he's not expected to score 25 a night. That being said you definitely don't trade the farm for him.

[Spida888]

Two most likely trade scenarios in my opinion:

1) Siakam, Ben Simmons one for one.

This is the most simple trade, Siakam gives them a third star and both salaries match. The biggest problem would be if the Sixers are comfortable with paying their entire cap on 3 front court players.

2) Lowry (S&T) + 4th Overall Pick

This trade gives the Sixers the best of both worlds, they can win now and build for the future at the same time. Sixers could potentially have a lineup of Lowry/Suggs/Green/Harris/Embiid. Meanwhile, raptors can create a defensive monster with Simmons/OG/Siakam in the front court.

I personally prefer the 2nd scenario in which the Raptors can assemble a closing lineup of Simmons/VanVleet/Trent/OG/Siakam. A perfect mix of defence, shooting, passing and scoring. The only issue would be interior rebounding and shot blocking which could be resolved by adding a Nerlens Noel, Richaun Holmes, Harrell or dare I dream, Serge Ibaka?

Simmons/VanVleet/OG/Siakam/Ibaka
Flynn/Trent/Watson/Watanabe/Boucher

Who's with me?

No deal for me.

1) I think Siakam is the better player right now, but I can see Simmons having more value around the league for some reason. Maybe because he's younger, or he was drafted #1, or he's a bigger household name. In any case, I think he makes our team worse if we swap him with Pascal.

2) Are you really an undercover agent for 76ers lol? Why would you give up the 4th pick for Simmons? If Lowry + future protected FRP + Boucher/Flynn/SRPs isn't enough, then I'm not sure I want to offer more. Maybe I can be talked into including Trent if Boucher/Flynn/SRPs doesn't cut it.

[Bruin]

When it comes down to his flaws and price, it just doesn’t seem like a very good idea

Simmons in the playoffs is nothing but a role player if he can’t get a bucket. In the playoffs, you want your lead guys who make the big bucks to be able to get you timely buckets. Simmons isn’t that player and I’m not interested in paying over 30 million a year for a role player in the playoffs

[WWSRD]

When it comes down to his flaws and price, it just doesn’t seem like a very good idea

Simmons in the playoffs is nothing but a role player if he can’t get a bucket. In the playoffs, you want your lead guys who make the big bucks to be able to get you timely buckets. Simmons isn’t that player and I’m not interested in paying over 30 million a year for a role player in the playoffs

Look man, he's still 14/7/7 with great defence.
It's entirely possible to salvage him and make him very effective for your team.

You buy low, fix it, then enjoy, sell or both.

You just have to make sure you're buying low.

[baller16]

Two most likely trade scenarios in my opinion:

1) Siakam, Ben Simmons one for one.

This is the most simple trade, Siakam gives them a third star and both salaries match. The biggest problem would be if the Sixers are comfortable with paying their entire cap on 3 front court players.

2) Lowry (S&T) + 4th Overall Pick

This trade gives the Sixers the best of both worlds, they can win now and build for the future at the same time. Sixers could potentially have a lineup of Lowry/Suggs/Green/Harris/Embiid. Meanwhile, raptors can create a defensive monster with Simmons/OG/Siakam in the front court.

I personally prefer the 2nd scenario in which the Raptors can assemble a closing lineup of Simmons/VanVleet/Trent/OG/Siakam. A perfect mix of defence, shooting, passing and scoring. The only issue would be interior rebounding and shot blocking which could be resolved by adding a Nerlens Noel, Richaun Holmes, Harrell or dare I dream, Serge Ibaka?

Simmons/VanVleet/OG/Siakam/Ibaka
Flynn/Trent/Watson/Watanabe/Boucher

Who's with me?

Are you out of your mind? No way in hell we're trading the 4th pick for some overpaid role player who can't shoot FTs.

[WeThe2019Champs]

Pass! Don't want Simmons ever wearing a Raps jersey. Let LA, BOS, MIA and NY fight for him.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

People saying Pascal or Fred have rings makes me laugh.

Adam Morrison has two.

Kenny Smith has two.

Kenny > Charles Barkley I guess. Or Karl Malone. Or Stockton.

I feel like Kenny smith lead the league in some shooting percentage category one of the years he won the chip. He was probably solid defensively and as a teammate. Anyways kenny loves to talk about being a champion, in a way Stockton and Barkley can not.

[Bruin]

When it comes down to his flaws and price, it just doesn’t seem like a very good idea

Simmons in the playoffs is nothing but a role player if he can’t get a bucket. In the playoffs, you want your lead guys who make the big bucks to be able to get you timely buckets. Simmons isn’t that player and I’m not interested in paying over 30 million a year for a role player in the playoffs

Look man, he's still 14/7/7 with great defence.
It's entirely possible to salvage him and make him very effective for your team.

You buy low, fix it, then enjoy, sell or both.

You just have to make sure you're buying low.

I just don’t see a team with him taking that large a portion of the cap achieving anything

He’s never improved in 5 years so what makes you think he’s gonna improve significantly enough to go from a guy that you can’t even put on the floor to close out games to suddenly becoming a star offensive player? We have plenty of defensive players, we need offense and Simmons brings nothing to the table offensively

It’ll kill our spacing with the way teams can sag off of him. He’s just not the kind of guy you want to be paying 33 million next year

[Rapsfan07]

4th overall pick for Ben Simmons? Lol There must be a new strain of pot on these streets.

Simmons is a role player in the playoffs, which is when it matters most...and he's paid $30M a year! Why so many are obsessed with him is a mystery I'll never understand.

[WWSRD]

When it comes down to his flaws and price, it just doesn’t seem like a very good idea

Simmons in the playoffs is nothing but a role player if he can’t get a bucket. In the playoffs, you want your lead guys who make the big bucks to be able to get you timely buckets. Simmons isn’t that player and I’m not interested in paying over 30 million a year for a role player in the playoffs

Look man, he's still 14/7/7 with great defence.
It's entirely possible to salvage him and make him very effective for your team.

You buy low, fix it, then enjoy, sell or both.

You just have to make sure you're buying low.

I just don’t see a team with him taking that large a portion of the cap achieving anything

He’s never improved in 5 years so what makes you think he’s gonna improve significantly enough to go from a guy that you can’t even put on the floor to close out games to suddenly becoming a star offensive player? We have plenty of defensive players, we need offense and Simmons brings nothing to the table offensively

It’ll kill our spacing with the way teams can sag off of him. He’s just not the kind of guy you want to be paying 33 million next year

I agree, he's overpaid. It's not a great fit in most situations.

You have to play him at center or find 4 other guys that can shoot the sheet out of the ball to play with him.

I think coaching and more appropriate personnel would change everything.

That being said, you need to be shedding bad money if Simmons is coming back in a deal.

[agentzero2010]

If Simmons can make 60% of his FTs which is not a monumental task, if he can make a couple of perimeter shots (I’m talking about 1 or 2 per game), and if he can cut down on his turnovers then he immediately turns into a top 20 player in the league. Is that worth Lowry (who is good as gone in my opinion) and a 4th pick? Why the heck not. If this organization could teach DeMar, Norm, and Amir (mr summer three) Johnson how to shoot, I’m damn sure they can turn Ben Simmons into a below average shooter at worst.

[tanuki1031]

If we deal it ought to be for someone who can take games over, not take the game out with them.

I'm OK with Simmons / Siakam one for one. Both players are flawed in their own right.
We initiate too much through Siakam (similar to the Giannis problem) and he's responded by jacking up too many shots. Philly needs that.

Simmons pushes tempo, boards hard, and will opt to pass than shoot 9.5/10 times. We could use the increased ball movement, passes, and looks for other shooters. Also, imagine Simmons getting a steady diet of the passes Baynes got.

Lowry/(Suggs)
FVV/Trent/Flynn
Simmons/(Green)/Bembry/Watson
OG/Watanabe/Gillespie/SJ
Boucher/Birch/(Mobley)/Baynes

That's some good looking team and individual defence with a respectable amount of shot making. Nurse & co. getting Simmons to take 3s would be a bonus.

[Skeezo]

This is a nothing burger going nowhere... Personally, I think there will be teams with more assets that they are willing to drop to get a chance at Simmons... No way I'm trading a cost-controlled #4 pick for gun-shy max player. I don't care how good his defence and playmaking is, 35m is high price for a man with no jumper & is trash from the line...

Siakim at this moment seems like a more well-rounded player. Sure, Ben has more hype & is younger than Siakim, but as others have alluded to, "what is his motivation to get better?"

[brownbobcat]

Kyle Lowry just doesn’t have the value people would like to believe here.

Adding Ray Allen was key to the Heat title but his trade value wasn’t that high. There are a plethora of players of that ilk.

Kyle with his contract demands, Masai demands, age and injury issues along with play taking a step back is just not that valuable.

And Maxey or the 28th pick is some sort of haul? Give me a break. 4/4 of the reported ask is probably high, but 2-3 is absolutely reasonable. In the end, Morey is the one who wasted the greater opportunity. If Lowry leaves for nothing, I'm not crying "what if" over that junk offer.

[God Squad]

Two most likely trade scenarios in my opinion:

1) Siakam, Ben Simmons one for one.

This is the most simple trade, Siakam gives them a third star and both salaries match. The biggest problem would be if the Sixers are comfortable with paying their entire cap on 3 front court players.

2) Lowry (S&T) + 4th Overall Pick

This trade gives the Sixers the best of both worlds, they can win now and build for the future at the same time. Sixers could potentially have a lineup of Lowry/Suggs/Green/Harris/Embiid. Meanwhile, raptors can create a defensive monster with Simmons/OG/Siakam in the front court.

I personally prefer the 2nd scenario in which the Raptors can assemble a closing lineup of Simmons/VanVleet/Trent/OG/Siakam. A perfect mix of defence, shooting, passing and scoring. The only issue would be interior rebounding and shot blocking which could be resolved by adding a Nerlens Noel, Richaun Holmes, Harrell or dare I dream, Serge Ibaka?

Simmons/VanVleet/OG/Siakam/Ibaka
Flynn/Trent/Watson/Watanabe/Boucher

Who's with me?