PG: Scottie overwhelms Celtics

[WuTang_CMB]

Watch on YouTube

[Darkseid]

https://youtu.be/5NpW_GgpByI

Link to his highlights

Those shots varied

Lot of everything

GOAT Raptor in the making

[WeTheNorth123]

So you would trade him today for green, mobley or cade

not saying your wrong but would you do it lol

I think all three of those guys would look pretty great in our system. It’s easy to overreact after 2 games, and while Scottie showed A LOT more tonight than he did all summer, teams are going to figure him out a bit yet and there’s going to be games where he struggles. Now if he shows this over the course of the year? Yeah, you’re no doubt taking him higher than 4.

I don’t think you hypothetically trade him at this very moment just because of what he showed tonight, but I think if you redrafted at this very moment you probably still draft the same way given the full body of work. If I were forced, I probably would trade him tonight for Cunningham and Green (though Green has looked pretty brutal) but it’s kind of a toss up with Mobley who has also looked good. Suggs wouldn’t even be in question though.

I’m 1. Glad I don’t have to make that decision lol. And 2. Really happy we drafted him, whereas at draft night I was uncertain. So yeah, I was wrong.

Green would look absolutely terrible in our system. Nurse would age about 20 years coaching him. The only thing Green can do on the court is score and he's not even doing that at an efficient rate. So he's basically a complete liability at this point. I like his upside as a scorer though.

I also dont like his body and size.....but that boy has mad hops

[10giz]

OG always shot as a catch & shoot player, now he's trying to create off the dribble and it's been an ugly disaster

The team as a whole is playing like a mess on offense. They'll settle in and OG will take more shots in rhythm.

Honestly og will be fine... it's just He needs to stick to his role... I'm fine with him getting some reps in but it's obvious who and what type of player he is... fans need to stop thinking everyone is a potential face of the franchise...

The one guy I can see that has it already is Barnes... I don't expect him to score 25 every game but he just has the full package... even when he's not scoring he makes a difference out there.

Barnes could've scored 5 and it still would've been an incredible game. I dunno where it was in the game but at at 8:43PM I had already messaged my buddy saying Barnes was the best player on the team.

Siakam has had some incredible games, but I've never seen him do as much as Barnes did today. I couldn't expect him to either Barnes has been playing at the highest levels as a PG, with and against the best competition which is a very hard position. He's already a 3 time Team USA gold medalist. He's a pro and clearly acts like it.

Siakam just started playing basketball at a 18. No matter how great Siakam is and how incredibly far he's come, you cannot replicate the understanding, processing and nuance of playing PG at the highest level at every age from youth.

That's the thing I see with him. He's like a quarterback. He can just see things and react so quickly and naturally. It almost looks too easy when he's defending or scoring. Seemed like the quietest 25 points ever

His size, body and disposition are just what make him even greater but his basketball mind stands out to me more than anything. This is also why makes Lebron so special. Lowry too.

Although I did proclaim on August 2nd Barnes would be Masai's best ever draft pick, tonight floored me.

Enjoy it fam. Every game should be fun. Now let's see him torture Luka,

[Mikistan]

OG always shot as a catch & shoot player, now he's trying to create off the dribble and it's been an ugly disaster

The team as a whole is playing like a mess on offense. They'll settle in and OG will take more shots in rhythm.

Honestly og will be fine... it's just He needs to stick to his role... I'm fine with him getting some reps in but it's obvious who and what type of player he is... fans need to stop thinking everyone is a potential face of the franchise...

The one guy I can see that has it already is Barnes... I don't expect him to score 25 every game but he just has the full package... even when he's not scoring he makes a difference out there.

The great thing is both OG and Scottie can switch up top and defend the best player on the opposing team and Scottie is looking elite at effecting 3pt shots on close outs. Mix that with boucher/birch combo did well this game to force steals and stay in passing lanes while contesting. Add Yuta's length and speed and Pascal on top of that and don't forget precious who likes to bang harder in the post able to do more heavy lifting for Pascal to keep energy for his janky offense.

This isn't even our final form!

[Agimat]

I can already see the Raptors in their final form -a returning healthy Pascal, a more controlled Precious Achiuwa, OG returning to his 3+D role, Dragic being traded, Trent rediscovering his shooting form, Chemistry improving significantly, etc.

Sidenote: Too early but not really impress on Ime Uoduka so far. Did he even a call a timeout during our run? lol

[F22_Raptor]

Watch on YouTube

Read on Twitter

[10giz]

The team as a whole is playing like a mess on offense. They'll settle in and OG will take more shots in rhythm.

Honestly og will be fine... it's just He needs to stick to his role... I'm fine with him getting some reps in but it's obvious who and what type of player he is... fans need to stop thinking everyone is a potential face of the franchise...

The one guy I can see that has it already is Barnes... I don't expect him to score 25 every game but he just has the full package... even when he's not scoring he makes a difference out there.

The great thing is both OG and Scottie can switch up top and defend the best player on the opposing team and Scottie is looking elite at effecting 3pt shots on close outs. Mix that with boucher/birch combo did well this game to force steals and stay in passing lanes while contesting. Add Yuta's length and speed and Pascal on top of that and don't forget precious who likes to bang harder in the post able to do more heavy lifting for Pascal to keep energy for his janky offense.

This isn't even our final form!

I think I stopped counting after 7 flying 3 point contests. None scored.

He just affected absolutely everything out there.

[Mikistan]

I can already see the Raptors in their final form -a returning healthy Pascal, a more controlled Precious Achiuwa, OG returning to his 3+D role, Dragic being traded, Trent rediscovering his shooting form, Chemistry improving significantly, etc.

Sidenote: Too early but not really impress on Ime Uoduka so far. Did he even a call a timeout during our run? lol

He should have taken a technical defending Tatum his star from all the non calls at home opener. Brown and Tatum have been so outspoken supporting him as their coach he could have shown it back in a grand spectacle fit for the Boston stage. But alas. Scottie was playing lead tonight.

After all, Scottie did splash a jumper and put his finger to his lips to shush the Boston bench during the game.

[Boogie!]

4. It’s game 2.

So you would trade him today for green, mobley or cade

not saying your wrong but would you do it lol

I think all three of those guys would look pretty great in our system. It’s easy to overreact after 2 games, and while Scottie showed A LOT more tonight than he did all summer, teams are going to figure him out a bit yet and there’s going to be games where he struggles. Now if he shows this over the course of the year? Yeah, you’re no doubt taking him higher than 4.

I don’t think you hypothetically trade him at this very moment just because of what he showed tonight, but I think if you redrafted at this very moment you probably still draft the same way given the full body of work. If I were forced, I probably would trade him tonight for Cunningham and Green (though Green has looked pretty brutal) but it’s kind of a toss up with Mobley who has also looked good. Suggs wouldn’t even be in question though.

I’m 1. Glad I don’t have to make that decision lol. And 2. Really happy we drafted him, whereas at draft night I was uncertain. So yeah, I was wrong.

David Thorpe who's son played on fsu with scottie said he would take him 2nd overall prior to the draft.... Scottie has the it factor... all the stuff you can't teach he has... his jumpshot is his biggest weakness and that is something you can actually work on in the gym with practice...

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Scottie deserves some love by the media after that game.

If you will remember just a short time ago, everyone in the media was calling him a mistake at #4.

Were they?

Pretty much every draft analyst that I saw thought it was a good pick. Or maybe they just said that because they know they can't question Masai given his track record. lol.

Scottie for the most part was an absolute lock to be drafted in the top 5. Orlando and OKC had Scottie at #4 on their draft board. Some teams had Scottie even higher.

The media had a clear top 4 picks in the draft and Scottie was not part of that.

Media is garbage though they hyped up Suggs. Experts had Barnes in top 5 all the way up 2 or 3 from what i read in the draft thread.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[RapsFanInOhio]

What happened with the starting lineup? Did Masai tell Nurse to start GTJ?

Nurse said it was just a random last second decision.

He needs more of those every game. No use boasting about having so much length if you aren't going to use them by starting two of the shortest guys on the team.

I wonder if that last second decision didn’t have to do with the announcement Horford would play.

Then again, if there’s a disagreement between Masai and Nurse, I don’t like that at this point in the season obviously. It’s a strange scenario either way though - Masai says one thing at, what, 4pm EST. Nurse quotes Lewenberg at 6:00pm saying the starters wouldn’t change. “Last minute change” happens. Nurse says it was a last minute change. I certainly hope Masai didn’t force that change, even if it was the right one. And who knows, it may very well have been a miscommunication. But clearly Masai thought GTJ was starting at 4 and Nurse didn’t at 6 so something was off.

[pingpongrac]

Gary has been impressive defensively both games. He is still figuring out the schemes a bit but the effort and ability is there. 4 steals tonight and +21. On top of 3 steals in game 1.

GTJ was also a +3 in 26.5 minutes against the Wizards. His shot was off in that game and early to start tonight, but he is having a big impact because of his defensive effort and hustle. Love to see it.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

[Indeed]

Gary has been impressive defensively both games. He is still figuring out the schemes a bit but the effort and ability is there. 4 steals tonight and +21. On top of 3 steals in game 1.

GTJ was also a +3 in 26.5 minutes against the Wizards. His shot was off in that game and early to start tonight, but he is having a big impact because of his defensive effort and hustle. Love to see it.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

I think we were watching different games here.
Pretty much he got schooled again by Schrodar. Nurse has him hide against Horford, and we double team Horford on that, so I am not sure in which part you saw him stayed in front of his man and make you feel he has been impressive on defense.

[10giz]

So you would trade him today for green, mobley or cade

not saying your wrong but would you do it lol

I think all three of those guys would look pretty great in our system. It’s easy to overreact after 2 games, and while Scottie showed A LOT more tonight than he did all summer, teams are going to figure him out a bit yet and there’s going to be games where he struggles. Now if he shows this over the course of the year? Yeah, you’re no doubt taking him higher than 4.

I don’t think you hypothetically trade him at this very moment just because of what he showed tonight, but I think if you redrafted at this very moment you probably still draft the same way given the full body of work. If I were forced, I probably would trade him tonight for Cunningham and Green (though Green has looked pretty brutal) but it’s kind of a toss up with Mobley who has also looked good. Suggs wouldn’t even be in question though.

I’m 1. Glad I don’t have to make that decision lol. And 2. Really happy we drafted him, whereas at draft night I was uncertain. So yeah, I was wrong.

David Thorpe who's son played on fsu with scottie said he would take him 2nd overall prior to the draft.... Scottie has the it factor... all the stuff you can't teach he has... his jumpshot is his biggest weakness and that is something you can actually work on in the gym with practice...

Everything Thorpe said about him looks to be true. I think it was he who also said (or maybe Barnes coach) that we worked on his shot relentlessly as soon as the college season ended.

Thing with the shot is you don't need to be as reliant on it if you're able to jut make things happen as Barnes has basically created every bucket he's scored so far on his own I think.

[Bruin]

Read on Twitter

?s=21

[Agimat]

I can already see the Raptors in their final form -a returning healthy Pascal, a more controlled Precious Achiuwa, OG returning to his 3+D role, Dragic being traded, Trent rediscovering his shooting form, Chemistry improving significantly, etc.

Sidenote: Too early but not really impress on Ime Uoduka so far. Did he even a call a timeout during our run? lol

He should have taken a technical defending Tatum his star from all the non calls at home opener. Brown and Tatum have been so outspoken supporting him as their coach he could have shown it back in a grand spectacle fit for the Boston stage. But alas. Scottie was playing lead tonight.

After all, Scottie did splash a jumper and put his finger to his lips to shush the Boston bench during the game.

Agree and that was such a BS call anyways being non-bias and not only that he took the ball from Boucher lol, ran with it and ended up a jumper from him, he definitely got the "IT" factor!

[pingpongrac]

Gary has been impressive defensively both games. He is still figuring out the schemes a bit but the effort and ability is there. 4 steals tonight and +21. On top of 3 steals in game 1.

GTJ was also a +3 in 26.5 minutes against the Wizards. His shot was off in that game and early to start tonight, but he is having a big impact because of his defensive effort and hustle. Love to see it.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

I think we were watching different games here.
Pretty much he got schooled again by Schrodar. Nurse has him hide against Horford, and we double team Horford on that, so I am not sure in which part you saw him stayed in front of his man and make you feel he has been impressive on defense.

Pardon me? Schroder? The guy who scored 4 points on 1/4 shooting while also turning the ball over 4 times?

Yeah, we sure were watching different games. GTJ's defence tonight was excellent.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

[gojoorange]

Gary has been impressive defensively both games. He is still figuring out the schemes a bit but the effort and ability is there. 4 steals tonight and +21. On top of 3 steals in game 1.

GTJ was also a +3 in 26.5 minutes against the Wizards. His shot was off in that game and early to start tonight, but he is having a big impact because of his defensive effort and hustle. Love to see it.

Sent from my Pixel 4 using RealGM mobile app

I think we were watching different games here.
Pretty much he got schooled again by Schrodar. Nurse has him hide against Horford, and we double team Horford on that, so I am not sure in which part you saw him stayed in front of his man and make you feel he has been impressive on defense.

I don't know that he was hiding Gary on Horford. I can remember at least one time Gary turned Horford over. The Celts also didn't try to have Horford go at Gary in the post after it failed a couple times. They started targeting Fred after that. Which was also a pretty big mistake.

[lobosloboslobos]

Stop putting unreleastic expectations on players.... learn to actually watch them play and assess their skillset.... all of ogs moves are telegraphed and have no chance.... he gets blocked all the time because he's our of control and uncoordinated... guys that can be counted on to score dodon'look as bad as og... it's one things to have a bad shooting night it's another to just look like you don't know what youre doing... that's the difference.

Og is best when he keeps things simple... cut and dunk. Catch and shoot. Post up and dunk... hes not a creator or a guy you cn give the ball to and let him go to work. He doesn't have the skillset for it... therefore he's a 3 ND d guy... again that's fine... everyone gets angry because their favorite players have limitations. And can't accept that not everyone is gonna develop into a star...

Scottie barneacalready looks more fluid than og as a rookie... that's just natural skills that have been developed and harnessed from a young age... og doesn't have that coordination. If is what it is

yeah you laugh because you have nothing to say and don't knowxwhat you're talking about... what are you gonna even argue against what I said? You think og has a scorers game and can create offense for himself consistently? Again you're absolutely wrong.