[Fischer] Toronto A Team To Keep An Eye On For Myles Turner Trade

[VanWest82]

I don't want to dismiss him completely but Turner is 6.5 seasons in and still doesn't know how to play on the offensive end. Yes, he can make threes sometimes - Boucher made threes sometimes last year too. There's more to basketball than shooting. Turner puts a hard ceiling on a team's offense.

[will]

Safe to say that GTJ, Khem and 'filler' for Myles ain't getting it done with the news there for what Indy is allegedly asking for.

7 footers who block shats and shoot treys are at a premium. If a guy like Zach Collins and Myers Leonard are/were getting paid, you best damn well believe Myles Turner is going to get dealt for a PACKAGE package that will entice the Pacers.

Let's all stop with the "I would do this deal' type of posts. It is embarrassing. Unless you are Masai or Bobby posting here.

they want 2 firsts or 1 and a prospect, do you think gary is merely a prospect? dudes proven to already be really good at age 22. i wouldnt be surprised if they would accept gary for him straight up.

Only thing I see potentially getting in the way is Gary's player option next season. Not sure what Turner's contract situation is though.

[kj_]

Safe to say that GTJ, Khem and 'filler' for Myles ain't getting it done with the news there for what Indy is allegedly asking for.

7 footers who block shats and shoot treys are at a premium. If a guy like Zach Collins and Myers Leonard are/were getting paid, you best damn well believe Myles Turner is going to get dealt for a PACKAGE package that will entice the Pacers.

Let's all stop with the "I would do this deal' type of posts. It is embarrassing. Unless you are Masai or Bobby posting here.

“I would…” is a way of letting others know your opinion. I’m pretty sure everyone knows they are not the GM.

Such a weird thing to get bent out of shape about.


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[will]

Safe to say that GTJ, Khem and 'filler' for Myles ain't getting it done with the news there for what Indy is allegedly asking for.

7 footers who block shats and shoot treys are at a premium. If a guy like Zach Collins and Myers Leonard are/were getting paid, you best damn well believe Myles Turner is going to get dealt for a PACKAGE package that will entice the Pacers.

Let's all stop with the "I would do this deal' type of posts. It is embarrassing. Unless you are Masai or Bobby posting here.

Well this is entirely wrong. This is an overpay for Turner as it is, so any premium is already built in there.

What do you think is more valuable, a steal or a block, if that's your rationale?

In general, 7 footers that block shots and shoot the trey are seemingly getttng paid a premium and come at a premium.

I ain't saying it's right or wrong. Just seeing what the market dictates.

[will]

Safe to say that GTJ, Khem and 'filler' for Myles ain't getting it done with the news there for what Indy is allegedly asking for.

7 footers who block shats and shoot treys are at a premium. If a guy like Zach Collins and Myers Leonard are/were getting paid, you best damn well believe Myles Turner is going to get dealt for a PACKAGE package that will entice the Pacers.

Let's all stop with the "I would do this deal' type of posts. It is embarrassing. Unless you are Masai or Bobby posting here.

“I would…” is a way of letting others know your opinion. I’m pretty sure everyone knows they are not the GM.

Such a weird thing to get bent out of shape about.


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You still mad and holding grudges on a message board, Sir.

Let it go.

[will]

I don't want to dismiss him completely but Turner is 6.5 seasons in and still doesn't know how to play on the offensive end. Yes, he can make threes sometimes - Boucher made threes sometimes last year too. There's more to basketball than shooting. Turner puts a hard ceiling on a team's offense.

He was moaning about this a few weeks ago when word got out Indy was looking to rebuild. Was saying something along the lines of not being featured enough in Indy.

It's been Myles and Domantas gettin in each other's way on the offensive side of things. Nate McMillian was struggling to fit both of them together a few seasons ago.

[ruckus]

I don't want to dismiss him completely but Turner is 6.5 seasons in and still doesn't know how to play on the offensive end. Yes, he can make threes sometimes - Boucher made threes sometimes last year too. There's more to basketball than shooting. Turner puts a hard ceiling on a team's offense.

He was moaning about this a few weeks ago when word got out Indy was looking to rebuild. Was saying something along the lines of not being featured enough in Indy.

It's been Myles and Domantas gettin in each other's way on the offensive side of things. Nate McMillian was struggling to fit both of them together a few seasons ago.

I find that a huge red flag. One thing I think the Raptors are big on are their players knowing and accepting their role. I'm sure neither of them were truly happy about it but Serge and Marc found a way to live together on the court. Winning definitely helped which is something Indiana hasn't really seen with those 2 paired up however Carlisle has been around the block a few times. If he can't get Turner to buy in, what makes anyone think he'd buy in to the Raps?

[ParadoxJ]

Willie getting waived, cheap 6’9 center?

Is he a significant upgrade over DJ WIlson?

I dunno...based on those 2 short stints from DJ with the Raps....

Totally forgot about the light skinned sister DJ

Willie was useful for me in nbalive18 or was it 19.

[aroc23]

I don't want to dismiss him completely but Turner is 6.5 seasons in and still doesn't know how to play on the offensive end. Yes, he can make threes sometimes - Boucher made threes sometimes last year too. There's more to basketball than shooting. Turner puts a hard ceiling on a team's offense.

He was moaning about this a few weeks ago when word got out Indy was looking to rebuild. Was saying something along the lines of not being featured enough in Indy.

It's been Myles and Domantas gettin in each other's way on the offensive side of things. Nate McMillian was struggling to fit both of them together a few seasons ago.

I find that a huge red flag. One thing I think the Raptors are big on are their players knowing and accepting their role. I'm sure neither of them were truly happy about it but Serge and Marc found a way to live together on the court. Winning definitely helped which is something Indiana hasn't really seen with those 2 paired up however Carlisle has been around the block a few times. If he can't get Turner to buy in, what makes anyone think he'd buy in to the Raps?

I think the main issue with his role is that he has to share the paint with Sabonis, which has meant he has been asked to camp in the corner for most of the game. If anyone is getting the ball in the paint, it's typically Sabonis. The franchise has also apparently made it clear that if they are keeping one of their back men it is Sabonis and not Turner, which cannot feel good.

Defensively they play Turner at the 5, but offensively he plays at the 4, which I do not think is his ideal position. I think he would be more satisfied as the lone big man on the court surrounded by play making wings, which he would have here with Scottie and Siakam rounding out the frontcourt. Sabonis is an elite passer for his position, but he is passing out of the post, which means most of his assists come from kick outs or quick cuts, which obviously favours guards and nimble forwards.

[will]

Willie getting waived, cheap 6’9 center?

Is he a significant upgrade over DJ WIlson?

I dunno...based on those 2 short stints from DJ with the Raps....

Totally forgot about the light skinned sister DJ

Willie was useful for me in nbalive18 or was it 19.

Willie was nice at Kentucky and had a pretty decent rookie season with Sac. Then it just went downhill

[Dalek]

One of the more prevalent rumors is Myles Turner ends up in Dallas for Dwight Powell and either Jalen Brunson or Dorian Finney-Smith.

Not sure how likely that is to happen, but if Turner goes to Dallas I could see Brunson being the main piece returned with Powell as the filler. Dallas likely can't afford to pay Brunson so shed him to get Turner makes good short-term sense.

If Dallas loses Brunson then the need for Dragic is important for Dallas as Brunson eats up any non-Doncic point minutes. Would a three way make sense?

Toronto gets:
Max Kleber
Sterling Brown
Josh Green
Dallas 2nd 2022

Dallas gets:
Myles Turner
Goran Dragic

Indy gets:
Dwight Powell
Trey Burke
Jalen Brunson
Dallas 1st 2022

Dallas becomes a bit thin upfront, but that is somewhat mitigated by their Chriss signing and they also still have Boban off the bench.

[VanWest82]

Even without Sabonis, Turner isn't a good passer. He's averaged more turnovers than assists without Sabonis each of the last three seasons.

We could probably turn(er) him into a version of Serge though I think Ibaka was a better finisher and shooter. Watching all these teams blitzing Fred in PnR makes me concerned about Turner in the short roll. Is it going to look all that different than what we've seen with Precious? What happens with Fred/Siakam PnR? It's possible Myles is still sulking in a corner with us.

Maybe the added rim protection would make it all worth it though even there I'd question whether we'd need to tweak our defensive scheme which Nurse seems loath to do. If we're changing our defensive identity I'd rather it be for an offensive hub.

[alevirfe]

Safe to say that GTJ, Khem and 'filler' for Myles ain't getting it done with the news there for what Indy is allegedly asking for.

7 footers who block shats and shoot treys are at a premium. If a guy like Zach Collins and Myers Leonard are/were getting paid, you best damn well believe Myles Turner is going to get dealt for a PACKAGE package that will entice the Pacers.

Let's all stop with the "I would do this deal' type of posts. It is embarrassing. Unless you are Masai or Bobby posting here.

Well this is entirely wrong. This is an overpay for Turner as it is, so any premium is already built in there.

What do you think is more valuable, a steal or a block, if that's your rationale?

In general, 7 footers that block shots and shoot the trey are seemingly getttng paid a premium and come at a premium.

I ain't saying it's right or wrong. Just seeing what the market dictates.

he's a free agent owed big money at the end of this season. you are trading to have the same odds of resigning him as any team in the league, and likely will have to overpay to retain him if there's enough interest this summer

[will]

Well this is entirely wrong. This is an overpay for Turner as it is, so any premium is already built in there.

What do you think is more valuable, a steal or a block, if that's your rationale?

In general, 7 footers that block shots and shoot the trey are seemingly getttng paid a premium and come at a premium.

I ain't saying it's right or wrong. Just seeing what the market dictates.

he's a free agent owed big money at the end of this season. you are trading to have the same odds of resigning him as any team in the league, and likely will have to overpay to retain him if there's enough interest this summer

Ah, so there is gonna be risk to a team who acquires him because he may or may not resign.

Indy risks losing Myles for nothing as well.

Should be good!

[Nebuchadnezzar]

In general, 7 footers that block shots and shoot the trey are seemingly getttng paid a premium and come at a premium.

I ain't saying it's right or wrong. Just seeing what the market dictates.

he's a free agent owed big money at the end of this season. you are trading to have the same odds of resigning him as any team in the league, and likely will have to overpay to retain him if there's enough interest this summer

Ah, so there is gonna be risk to a team who acquires him because he may or may not resign.

Indy risks losing Myles for nothing as well.

Should be good!

He is not a free agent until 2023.

[will]

he's a free agent owed big money at the end of this season. you are trading to have the same odds of resigning him as any team in the league, and likely will have to overpay to retain him if there's enough interest this summer

Ah, so there is gonna be risk to a team who acquires him because he may or may not resign.

Indy risks losing Myles for nothing as well.

Should be good!

He is not a free agent until 2023.

Ah, I stand corrected. So whoever deals for him gets 1 year of Myles.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Ah, so there is gonna be risk to a team who acquires him because he may or may not resign.

Indy risks losing Myles for nothing as well.

Should be good!

He is not a free agent until 2023.

Ah, I stand corrected. So whoever deals for him gets 1 year of Myles.

Lol more like 1.4 seasons - so two playoff runs.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Ah, so there is gonna be risk to a team who acquires him because he may or may not resign.

Indy risks losing Myles for nothing as well.

Should be good!

He is not a free agent until 2023.

Ah, I stand corrected. So whoever deals for him gets 1 year of Myles.

Lol more like 1.4 seasons - so two playoff runs.

[Johnny Bball]

Safe to say that GTJ, Khem and 'filler' for Myles ain't getting it done with the news there for what Indy is allegedly asking for.

7 footers who block shats and shoot treys are at a premium. If a guy like Zach Collins and Myers Leonard are/were getting paid, you best damn well believe Myles Turner is going to get dealt for a PACKAGE package that will entice the Pacers.

Let's all stop with the "I would do this deal' type of posts. It is embarrassing. Unless you are Masai or Bobby posting here.

Well this is entirely wrong. This is an overpay for Turner as it is, so any premium is already built in there.

What do you think is more valuable, a steal or a block, if that's your rationale?

In general, 7 footers that block shots and shoot the trey are seemingly getttng paid a premium and come at a premium.

I ain't saying it's right or wrong. Just seeing what the market dictates.

I get that. Trent is as good a defender as Turner is, or close. Trent is a better offenisve player and is 22. 2 Steals are worth more than 2 blocks, since you get the ball. I have no idea why you would think the entire concept of Trent of Turner is just lolz at everyone.

[Raptors Realtor]

Onyeka Okongwu from the Hawks is intriguing...

He's a young big, who rebounds well, offers rim protection and efficient scorer in the key. Downside is he doesn't shoot the 3. The Hawks are looking to deal with the only apparent untouchables being Trae & Capella, so I'm curious what the ask would be?