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[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#341 » by AbC? » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:03 am

The only way I see this working is if Masai and co. identify another guy like Shai/Giannis that is worth trading for at 7. Even then, OG is a huge price to pay because even the best talent evaluators can totally whiff on a prospect.

Josh Hart is an excellent role player too, I can envision him as an elite role player on a championship level team.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#342 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:03 am

Masai was pretty clear in his post season remarks that the core won't be touched, not this off season.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#343 » by mihaic » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:04 am

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AbC? wrote:“Two sources with knowledge of the dynamic told B/R that Anunoby has not directly expressed discontent with his situation with the Raptors.”

Doubt this is anything but speculation


Right, and it's all driven by other teams' desire for OG, not from the Raps.. He isn't going anywhere.


Never say never. Remember Derozan.

However if he goes it will probably be for a decent package as long as it is not OG forcing his way out
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#344 » by NotMyKawhi » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:07 am

mtcan wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
mtcan wrote:Josh Hart, Keon Johnson, #7 pick and a future 1st rounder.

Josh Hart is a perfect 6th man and is a guy who fits in to how the Raptors play. Keon Johnson can be developed. #7 can be brought along as a bench player.

A trade like this adds bench depth and opens up more shots for Scottie who we all want to see in a larger role next season.

Fred/Malachi/Banton
Trent/Hart/Keon
Barnes/Thad/#7 pick (I'm guessing it's Daniels/Sharpe/Mathurin)
Siakam/Boucher
Precious/Birch


superstars barely get that

most of the future picks they get suck. There is no future first guaranteed. And you're lucky if you get keon

Jrue Holiday got that kind haul in terms of number of picks/swaps...he's not a superstar.


OG is not jrue holiday
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#345 » by kalel123 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:07 am

I wouldn't be closed to trading OG Anunoby. As good as he is, he hasn't quite taken the next step that many thought he would/should and he's showing to be quite the injury prone. Like to take his sweet time to return, too.

BUT not for the garbage that a team like Blazers would offer. And if he supposedly ain't happy here, he sure as heck won't be happy in Portland, the true treadmill that has no future.
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Post#346 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:13 am

WuTang_OG wrote:Trent will be traded before we consider even trading OG.


This makes sense because we saw in the playoffs, when Fred was out we played best with 4 long guys on court. If we are committed to this long boi style, OG is too important a part of that to lose. It's the combo of OG, Pascal, Scottie and Precious together that will make the 6'9 style work. Not getting rid of the best most versatile defender we have.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#347 » by mtcan » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:16 am

NotMyKawhi wrote:
mtcan wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
superstars barely get that

most of the future picks they get suck. There is no future first guaranteed. And you're lucky if you get keon

Jrue Holiday got that kind haul in terms of number of picks/swaps...he's not a superstar.


OG is not jrue holiday

He's about as good a defender and scorer as Jrue. And if a move like this is what is needed for the Blazers to be competitive and keep Dame happy...Portland would do it...kinda like Milauwakee when they needed a trade to keep Giannis happy.

There are parallels to be drawn here.

And if you don't ask...you definitely don't get. So that is my ask.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#348 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:19 am

tecumseh18 wrote:Scottie weighs in:

Read on Twitter


If OG's happy, this convo is OVAH!


What is the translation of what Scottie's post means? Bad news? I don't understand it, too old I guess.
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Post#349 » by Young Moosehead » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:22 am

tdotrep2 wrote:honest question, considering the probable raises for our players and scotties new contract how is our cap gonna lookk in a few years with new og, gary, fred contracts and scottie getting the probable max


Our cap is pretty good. We could afford to bring back Boucher & Thad, sign a full MLE and give Gary and Fred 7-10 mill a year raises without going over the luxury tax. Even if we go over the tax a little bit in 2024 to give raises to OG and Pascal we will be out from under the cap the very next year. Even if we slightly overpay, provided we can get a long term deal out of them, they will all be on bargain contracts when the cap and tax jump in 2025. The expectation is when the new TV deal comes through the cap is expected to jump to 175 million, it is currently 122.

Masai has done a good job of lining up everyone's extension to line up just before 2025. If everyone in the core signs on for at least 3 years when their contract comes up we will have from 2025-27 where we will have our entire core on incredibly moveable team friendly contracts with room to add some good contracts. Get Scottie to recruit one or two of his buddies with our cap space then operate as a tax team. The next 2 years are about rebuilding the bench and 905,stockpiling assets for moves after 2025, and evaluating.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#350 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:39 am

Reading the comments from non Raps fans on the wiretap article, most of them say Fisher is unreliable, stirring the pot, "a jerk", fake news etc etc. It's crazy how this thread has gone so many pages over nothing
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Post#351 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:41 am

WaltFrazier wrote:Reading the comments from non Raps fans on the wiretap article, most of them say Fisher is unreliable, stirring the pot, "a jerk", fake news etc etc. It's crazy how this thread has gone so many pages over nothing


The article even says multiple actual sources said he was talking out of his ass. Scottie even publicly denied the claims.

People just want to talk trade proposals since it's the offseason.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#352 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:44 am

Raps in 4 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Reading the comments from non Raps fans on the wiretap article, most of them say Fisher is unreliable, stirring the pot, "a jerk", fake news etc etc. It's crazy how this thread has gone so many pages over nothing


The article even says multiple actual sources said he was talking out of his ass. Scottie even publicly denied the claims.

People just want to talk trade proposals since it's the offseason.


Best quote from that thread:
Fake Fischer has been clearly BSing on all these Raptors related news, from last year on Siakam to this year OG. Saying "Anunoby hasn't directly expressed dissatisfaction with his role" then say "Anunoby is reportedly unhappy with his role" doesn't seem to make any sense. And the Raptors has been giving OG a lot of offensive opportunities to develop him as well.

I just don't get how RealGM is putting Fake Fischer / Bleacher Report as a source of news, have been banning them for a while.


Fake Fischer, good name for the guy.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#353 » by lolwut » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:46 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
tecumseh18 wrote:Scottie weighs in:

Read on Twitter


If OG's happy, this convo is OVAH!


What is the translation of what Scottie's post means? Bad news? I don't understand it, too old I guess.

I think he meant to say fake news, not bad news.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#354 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 1, 2022 2:49 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:Reading the comments from non Raps fans on the wiretap article, most of them say Fisher is unreliable, stirring the pot, "a jerk", fake news etc etc. It's crazy how this thread has gone so many pages over nothing


The article even says multiple actual sources said he was talking out of his ass. Scottie even publicly denied the claims.

People just want to talk trade proposals since it's the offseason.


Best quote from that thread:
Fake Fischer has been clearly BSing on all these Raptors related news, from last year on Siakam to this year OG. Saying "Anunoby hasn't directly expressed dissatisfaction with his role" then say "Anunoby is reportedly unhappy with his role" doesn't seem to make any sense. And the Raptors has been giving OG a lot of offensive opportunities to develop him as well.

I just don't get how RealGM is putting Fake Fischer / Bleacher Report as a source of news, have been banning them for a while.


Fake Fischer, good name for the guy.


Fischer has been accurate on Raps rumours in the past (Scottie at 4, chasing Turner) so he's not all bad.

This article was clearly pushed by Portland.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#355 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:01 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
The article even says multiple actual sources said he was talking out of his ass. Scottie even publicly denied the claims.

People just want to talk trade proposals since it's the offseason.


Best quote from that thread:
Fake Fischer has been clearly BSing on all these Raptors related news, from last year on Siakam to this year OG. Saying "Anunoby hasn't directly expressed dissatisfaction with his role" then say "Anunoby is reportedly unhappy with his role" doesn't seem to make any sense. And the Raptors has been giving OG a lot of offensive opportunities to develop him as well.

I just don't get how RealGM is putting Fake Fischer / Bleacher Report as a source of news, have been banning them for a while.


Fake Fischer, good name for the guy.


Fischer has been accurate on Raps rumours in the past (Scottie at 4, chasing Turner) so he's not all bad.

This article was clearly pushed by Portland.


And Masai doesn't bite on other teams pushing like that.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#356 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:10 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
Best quote from that thread:

Fake Fischer, good name for the guy.


Fischer has been accurate on Raps rumours in the past (Scottie at 4, chasing Turner) so he's not all bad.

This article was clearly pushed by Portland.


And Masai doesn't bite on other teams pushing like that.


no body really does. portland is just desperate trying to stir the pot
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Post#357 » by Basketball_Jones » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:29 am

Nope. Just nope. Too important for defense and floor spacing. I just wish he’d stay healthy
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#358 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:39 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
What is the translation of what Scottie's post means? Bad news? I don't understand it, too old I guess.


C'mon mayne, you're not THAT much older than me. No excuse for not getting with the times.

Scottie is saying that Fischer is capping.
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Post#359 » by gbball » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:40 am

If the Raps have their eye on someone, like a Shaedon Sharpe and he drops to 7, I think we pull the trigger. We wanted to make draft trades for Giannis and SGA, but didn't get it done. This year we have the pieces if and it could make a lot of sense.

Shaedon already looks like what we want OG to become...and I see shades of Kahwi, TMac and even Lillard in his game. Very interesting prospect.
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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#360 » by Zeno » Wed Jun 1, 2022 3:40 am

I don't really want to trade OG but if they do for a pick, I am quite confident that Masai and co will do so because they really believe in someone.

I'm am also not sure on the need for a big like Ayton and definitely not sure about him on a max contract. That being said, I played around with the trade machine to see what would work potentially for both teams and came up with this...

Ayton (starting at 30 million), Cameron Johnson(expiring rfa) and Saric(expiring)
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OG, Thad (3 years, 30 million/2nd and 3rd years non-guaranteed) and Birch. It works even with Ayton being worth only 15 million as outgoing salary for the Suns.
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