2023 Draft Prospect discussion

[Kevin Willis]

WTH is this?

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It's like you're in HS and playing against elemtary school kids and you have no fear of getting your shot-blocked.

We'll he's out of our range, unless, Pascal, OG and a couple others are out for the season.

In our range, I like Jett Howard (though might rise) and Sidy Cissoko.

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

Oh wow, if Filipowski is still there, I think we have to take him. I would think him at least like a 7'0 Boucher.

GG Jackson at #24 seems low.

Howard, Cissoko, Filipowski, GGJ, Leonard Miller. Unless it's a Kawhi level trade, I'm not trading this year's 1st pick.

[Kevin Willis]

WTH is this?

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It's like you're in HS and playing against elemtary school kids and you have no fear of getting your shot-blocked.

We'll he's out of our range, unless, Pascal, OG and a couple others are out for the season.

In our range, I like Jett Howard (though might rise) and Sidy Cissoko.

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

Oh wow, if Filipowski is still there, I think we have to take him. I would think him at least like a 7'0 Boucher.

GG Jackson at #24 seems low.

Howard, Cissoko, Filipowski, GGJ, Leonard Miller. Unless it's a Kawhi level trade, I'm not trading this year's 1st pick.

I'm with you except for Flip. I think there are other options. Maybe if he drops to the second round.

[BoyzNTheHood]

We could really use a guy like Cam Whitmore. Outside of the top 2-5 he seems like the most likely to develop into a star in my opinion. The only issue is not seeing him against NCAA competition yet, but it's early.

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I think Cam goes top 5.

Besides the obvious top 2, the only other guy I think MIGHT go ahead of him is Amen. But yeah I’d absolutely love if we were able to get him. Interested who you think would go before him other than those guys but personally those would be the only prospects I’d put ahead of him. He looks like a potentially ever so slightly more athletic version of Jaylen Brown to me.

It's fair of you to say that he could go top-5, but I think outside of the obvious top-2 in Wemby and Scoot you have to rank Nick Smith above him, both of the Thompson twins have potential to go ahead of him, as well as Brandon Miller. I could also see someone like Anthony Black, Gradey Dick, or Keynote George being toss ups with him. Maybe I'm just hoping he drops to us lol

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[BoyzNTheHood]

WTH is this?

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It's like you're in HS and playing against elemtary school kids and you have no fear of getting your shot-blocked.

We'll he's out of our range, unless, Pascal, OG and a couple others are out for the season.

In our range, I like Jett Howard (though might rise) and Sidy Cissoko.

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

Oh wow, if Filipowski is still there, I think we have to take him. I would think him at least like a 7'0 Boucher.

GG Jackson at #24 seems low.

Howard, Cissoko, Filipowski, GGJ, Leonard Miller. Unless it's a Kawhi level trade, I'm not trading this year's 1st pick.

I'm with you except for Flip. I think there are other options. Maybe if he drops to the second round.

Filipowski is such a monster. I can see him dropping because of the typical unathletic white guy bias people have engrained in their minds.

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[DreamTeam09]

Ummm who is this kid, and why is he flippin electric. Please draft him Raptors

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This is the guy I want.

Good handles & electric with a jumper. Will be in our range too

[BoyzNTheHood]

Speaking of electric, we can't forget about Terquavion. He just looks like a star in the making. Shooting percentages leave a lot to be desired, but if he can improve his shot selection he's a 20ppg guy in the NBA.

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[will]

Ummm who is this kid, and why is he flippin electric. Please draft him Raptors

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This is the guy I want.

Good handles & electric with a jumper. Will be in our range too

Ricky Council IV.

There is so much marketing potential there. Ricky giving his defender that intravenous therapy on multiple possessions. The council has voted.

[Psubs]

It's like you're in HS and playing against elemtary school kids and you have no fear of getting your shot-blocked.

We'll he's out of our range, unless, Pascal, OG and a couple others are out for the season.

In our range, I like Jett Howard (though might rise) and Sidy Cissoko.

https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

Oh wow, if Filipowski is still there, I think we have to take him. I would think him at least like a 7'0 Boucher.

GG Jackson at #24 seems low.

Howard, Cissoko, Filipowski, GGJ, Leonard Miller. Unless it's a Kawhi level trade, I'm not trading this year's 1st pick.

I'm with you except for Flip. I think there are other options. Maybe if he drops to the second round.

Filipowski is such a monster. I can see him dropping because of the typical unathletic white guy bias people have engrained in their minds.

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He's grown almost 2 inches this past year to be 7'0!!! I can see him being like JV with the handles of a SF and passing.

PG Siakam
SG OG
SF Barnes
PF Filipowski
C Koloko

Tallest starting lineup of all-time!!!

Speaking of Lithuanians, Azuolas Tubelis! He's shooting 64/50/84!!! Maybe Troy Murphy 2.0? Though Murphy was a better rebounder.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/azuolas-tubelis-1.html

[Ell Curry]

Saw Cason Wallace for the first time in the Michigan game. Really, really liked him. Only their 5th option on O after Tshiebwe, Wheeler, Reeves and Toppin and he's playing the 2 guard spot because Wheeler is tiny and a maestro, but he moves like an NBA starting PG, really good on D and shoots the 3 well. Made some smart decisions on both end of the floor.

He's not a pure PG and he'll have to learn the decision or play as a 3rd ballhandler type like a Derrick White maybe, but there's way more upside because he makes good decisions and is really strong and quick.

Vecenie has him going #9 so too early for us to pick without a Trent trade, probably, but we could do worse moving Trent for a pick and using that pick to trade up and go get Wallace. Could play with Fred or Banton and give us a physical and defensive 2 guard who can hit a 3. Won't make our halfcourt offense sing, but a defender who will run in the open court (and had some nice push ahead passes to wing and corner 3pt shooters) and has upside as a driver and creator does make some sense.

I can definitely see the Jrue Holiday vibes. Good shooter, really good defender, tough and smart and not selfish but maybe no better than a #3 scorer even at his peak and might well take 4-5 years like Jrue did to become a really good offensive player, but that also means he won't be a max contract guy after his rookie deal and you eke max 2-way production out of him on his 2nd deal.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I'm with you except for Flip. I think there are other options. Maybe if he drops to the second round.

Filipowski is such a monster. I can see him dropping because of the typical unathletic white guy bias people have engrained in their minds.

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He's grown almost 2 inches this past year to be 7'0!!! I can see him being like JV with the handles of a SF and passing.

PG Siakam
SG OG
SF Barnes
PF Filipowski
C Koloko

Tallest starting lineup of all-time!!!

Speaking of Lithuanians, Azuolas Tubelis! He's shooting 64/50/84!!! Maybe Troy Murphy 2.0? Though Murphy was a better rebounder.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/azuolas-tubelis-1.html

Filipowski is too good not to go top-10. I just can't fathom him dropping any further than that, and definitely not out of the lottery.

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[grant101]

Filipowski is such a monster. I can see him dropping because of the typical unathletic white guy bias people have engrained in their minds.

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He's grown almost 2 inches this past year to be 7'0!!! I can see him being like JV with the handles of a SF and passing.

PG Siakam
SG OG
SF Barnes
PF Filipowski
C Koloko

Tallest starting lineup of all-time!!!

Speaking of Lithuanians, Azuolas Tubelis! He's shooting 64/50/84!!! Maybe Troy Murphy 2.0? Though Murphy was a better rebounder.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/azuolas-tubelis-1.html

Filipowski is too good not to go top-10. I just can't fathom him dropping any further than that, and definitely not out of the lottery.

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There's a definite chance I'm wrong, and the production translates, I just don't see too many examples of his archetype succeeding in the NBA - Centers that are mediocre (At best) defenders, that can only defend one position (in the NBA at least) and don't have any one standout skill.

Reminds me of Frank Kaminsky a bit (though Frank wasn't as productive till his senior year).

Sabonis and Jokic are both elite passers, Sengun is a low post scoring savant, KAT is an incredible shooter (and flashed defensive upside in college), JV is a bully and far stronger. I think Kyle's biggest skills at this stage are his motor and fluidity at his size...not sure it's enough

[OakleyDokely]

Leonard Miller G League Stats in 9 games:

27.6 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 8.0 REB, 1.7 AST, 2.4 TO, 1.7 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48.1 FG, 25.0 3PT, 75.0 FT, 58.6 TS, 23.6 USG, -7.0 NET RATING

[HangTime]

Leonard Miller G League Stats in 9 games:

27.6 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 8.0 REB, 1.7 AST, 2.4 TO, 1.7 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48.1 FG, 25.0 3PT, 75.0 FT, 58.6 TS, 23.6 USG, -7.0 NET RATING

Do you think he would have better off staying in the 2022 draft?

[DreamTeam09]

Leonard Miller G League Stats in 9 games:

27.6 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 8.0 REB, 1.7 AST, 2.4 TO, 1.7 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48.1 FG, 25.0 3PT, 75.0 FT, 58.6 TS, 23.6 USG, -7.0 NET RATING

Do you think he would have better off staying in the 2022 draft?

No he's showing something by playing decently well in the GLeague. There just wasn't enough data on him last year because level of competition.

[OakleyDokely]

Leonard Miller G League Stats in 9 games:

27.6 MIN, 15.2 PPG, 8.0 REB, 1.7 AST, 2.4 TO, 1.7 STL, 0.4 BLK, 48.1 FG, 25.0 3PT, 75.0 FT, 58.6 TS, 23.6 USG, -7.0 NET RATING

Do you think he would have better off staying in the 2022 draft?

He was probably going 2nd round last year, he has a chance to go 1st this year so he probably made the right decision as more teams get to see him play.

His efficiency has been good for his age, but it looks like his defense has been atrocious. Although, g league defense can be non existent in general. He also doesn't provide much in the way of playmaking or outside shooting. He's a pretty big project, maybe a team takes a flyer on him later in the 1st.

[Psubs]

He's grown almost 2 inches this past year to be 7'0!!! I can see him being like JV with the handles of a SF and passing.

PG Siakam
SG OG
SF Barnes
PF Filipowski
C Koloko

Tallest starting lineup of all-time!!!

Speaking of Lithuanians, Azuolas Tubelis! He's shooting 64/50/84!!! Maybe Troy Murphy 2.0? Though Murphy was a better rebounder.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/azuolas-tubelis-1.html

Filipowski is too good not to go top-10. I just can't fathom him dropping any further than that, and definitely not out of the lottery.

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There's a definite chance I'm wrong, and the production translates, I just don't see too many examples of his archetype succeeding in the NBA - Centers that are mediocre (At best) defenders, that can only defend one position (in the NBA at least) and don't have any one standout skill.

Reminds me of Frank Kaminsky a bit (though Frank wasn't as productive till his senior year).

Sabonis and Jokic are both elite passers, Sengun is a low post scoring savant, KAT is an incredible shooter (and flashed defensive upside in college), JV is a bully and far stronger. I think Kyle's biggest skills at this stage are his motor and fluidity at his size...not sure it's enough

The most recent comp would be Lauri Markkanen.

[BoyzNTheHood]

He's grown almost 2 inches this past year to be 7'0!!! I can see him being like JV with the handles of a SF and passing.

PG Siakam
SG OG
SF Barnes
PF Filipowski
C Koloko

Tallest starting lineup of all-time!!!

Speaking of Lithuanians, Azuolas Tubelis! He's shooting 64/50/84!!! Maybe Troy Murphy 2.0? Though Murphy was a better rebounder.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/azuolas-tubelis-1.html

Filipowski is too good not to go top-10. I just can't fathom him dropping any further than that, and definitely not out of the lottery.

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There's a definite chance I'm wrong, and the production translates, I just don't see too many examples of his archetype succeeding in the NBA - Centers that are mediocre (At best) defenders, that can only defend one position (in the NBA at least) and don't have any one standout skill.

Reminds me of Frank Kaminsky a bit (though Frank wasn't as productive till his senior year).

Sabonis and Jokic are both elite passers, Sengun is a low post scoring savant, KAT is an incredible shooter (and flashed defensive upside in college), JV is a bully and far stronger. I think Kyle's biggest skills at this stage are his motor and fluidity at his size...not sure it's enough

You might be right, and I will admit that Kaminsky was a name that crossed my mind when watching Filipowski. I wouldn't undersell him defensively just yet. He has good stats to back up his defensive exploits, but it's early in the season. To be honest, I don't believe he'll be available when we pick either way lol

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[grant101]

Filipowski is too good not to go top-10. I just can't fathom him dropping any further than that, and definitely not out of the lottery.

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There's a definite chance I'm wrong, and the production translates, I just don't see too many examples of his archetype succeeding in the NBA - Centers that are mediocre (At best) defenders, that can only defend one position (in the NBA at least) and don't have any one standout skill.

Reminds me of Frank Kaminsky a bit (though Frank wasn't as productive till his senior year).

Sabonis and Jokic are both elite passers, Sengun is a low post scoring savant, KAT is an incredible shooter (and flashed defensive upside in college), JV is a bully and far stronger. I think Kyle's biggest skills at this stage are his motor and fluidity at his size...not sure it's enough

The most recent comp would be Lauri Markkanen.

Good counterpoint! though I remember Lauri being a better shooter with a quicker release. But yeah, the Lauri outcome would be a great one for Kyle

[Kevin Willis]

Lauri

SEASON TEAM MIN FGM-FGA FG% 3PM-3PA 3P% FTM-FTA FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS
2016-17 ARIZ 30.8 5.0-10.2 .492 1.9-4.4 .423 3.7-4.4 .835 7.2 0.9 0.5 0.4 2.0 1.1 15.6

Frank
2014-2015 33.6 .547 .416 .780 8.2 2.6 0.8 1.5 1.7 1.6 18.8

Kevin Love
2007-2008 29.6 .559 .354 .767 10.6 1.9 1.4 0.7 1.9 2.0 17.5

Kyle
2022-23 27.5 43.4 36.1 83.7 9.2 1.2 0.9 1.4 2.3 2.0 15.2


As a shooter he's not as good as Lauri. Close to Frank and Kevin.
As a rebounder he's better than Lauri. Close to Frank and Kevin.
STOCK he's better than Lauri. Close to Frank and Kevin.
Assist / TO he's the worse of the 4.
Points he's the worse out of the 4.

All these guys are lottery picks so he has a chance of going in the lottery. Still early in the year, have to wait until teams start game planning for him and his end of year stats. I think he'll be end of first, early second. Around where Koloko was drafted.